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drekly, w The next Sims game will be free-to-play with paid DLC

Ah, so the sims is dead, I see.

pimento64,

It’s also soon to be astroturfed to hell and back with “omg let people enjoy things” and the “stop having FUN” comic any time people mention how dogshit this is.

mind,

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  • pimento64,
    bionicjoey,

    Good thing there’s that spiritual successor (paralives) coming down the pike

    Iunnrais,

    Haven’t heard of paralives. The one I’m familiar with is “Life by You” from Paradox. I’m hoping for cities skylines integration, which is why I have my eye on that one, even if it is a different developer it’s the same publisher so there’s hope…

    Iunnrais,

    Haven’t heard of paralives. The one I’m familiar with is “Life by You” from Paradox. I’m hoping for cities skylines integration, which is why I have my eye on that one, even if it is a different developer it’s the same publisher so there’s hope…

    Iunnrais,

    Haven’t heard of paralives. The one I’m familiar with is “Life by You” from Paradox. I’m hoping for cities skylines integration, which is why I have my eye on that one, even if it is a different developer it’s the same publisher so there’s hope…

    Iunnrais,

    Haven’t heard of paralives. The one I’m familiar with is “Life by You” from Paradox. I’m hoping for cities skylines integration, which is why I have my eye on that one, even if it is a different developer it’s the same publisher so there’s hope…

    Iunnrais,

    Haven’t heard of paralives. The one I’m familiar with is “Life by You” from Paradox. I’m hoping for cities skylines integration, which is why I have my eye on that one, even if it is a different developer it’s the same publisher so there’s hope…

    Iunnrais,

    Haven’t heard of paralives. The one I’m familiar with is “Life by You” from Paradox. I’m hoping for cities skylines integration, which is why I have my eye on that one, even if it is a different developer it’s the same publisher so there’s hope…

    Iunnrais,

    Haven’t heard of paralives. The one I’m familiar with is “Life by You” from Paradox. I’m hoping for cities skylines integration, which is why I have my eye on that one, even if it is a different developer it’s the same publisher so there’s hope…

    Iunnrais,

    Haven’t heard of paralives. The one I’m familiar with is “Life by You” from Paradox. I’m hoping for cities skylines integration, which is why I have my eye on that one, even if it is a different developer it’s the same publisher so there’s hope…

    Iunnrais,

    Haven’t heard of paralives. The one I’m familiar with is “Life by You” from Paradox. I’m hoping for cities skylines integration, which is why I have my eye on that one, even if it is a different developer it’s the same publisher so there’s hope…

    Iunnrais,

    Haven’t heard of paralives. The one I’m familiar with is “Life by You” from Paradox. I’m hoping for cities skylines integration, which is why I have my eye on that one, even if it is a different developer it’s the same publisher so there’s hope…

    Iunnrais,

    Haven’t heard of paralives. The one I’m familiar with is “Life by You” from Paradox. I’m hoping for cities skylines integration, which is why I have my eye on that one, even if it is a different developer it’s the same publisher so there’s hope…

    Iunnrais,

    Haven’t heard of paralives. The one I’m familiar with is “Life by You” from Paradox. I’m hoping for cities skylines integration, which is why I have my eye on that one, even if it is a different developer it’s the same publisher so there’s hope…

    Iunnrais, (edited )

    Haven’t heard of paralives. The one I’m familiar with is “Life by You” from Paradox. I’m hoping for cities skylines integration, which is why I have my eye on that one, even if it is a different developer it’s the same publisher so there’s hope…

    (Sorry if you briefly saw a billion duplicate comments from me— Memmy suddenly crashed and when it reopened it seems to have just kept reposting again and again. I think I deleted all the copies now)

    Aurenkin,

    RIP Maxis. Who knows what kinds of awesome stuff we could have had. Oh well, at least Cities Skylines 2 is on the way. Haven’t played a Sims game in a long time but had such a blast with the earlier entries in the series.

    doctorcrimson,

    RIP Maxis and like 50 other studios that EA bought and dissolved over the decades.

    Aurenkin,

    Still haven’t emotionally recovered from Westwood

    Squizzy,

    I loved Tiberian Sun and the Red Alerts

    drekly,

    And Bullfrog

    Aurenkin,

    Still haven’t emotionally recovered from Westwood

    fogetaboutit, w The next Sims game will be free-to-play with paid DLC

    If sims 5 doesnt allow my sims to exit the house without loading screen, then it isnt worth it

    geosoco,

    The loading screen is optional DLC. Definitely not a micro-transaction. Just very small DLC.

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    I want to actually watch them do their jobs, too. Not just enter a building and forcing me to watch time go by for the 8 hours they are there. I don’t care if they’re just packing boxes for Samazon; I mean, I will watch them watching TV. Watching them do boring stuff isn’t that boring.

    bionicjoey,

    Agreed. Working is the worst part of the Sims. They make you just fucking sit there for all that time staring at the outside of a building

    fogetaboutit,

    yeah, jobs on sims 3 is basically entering a building and waiting. With an occasional prompt about “what should your sims do?”

    DocBlaze,

    you never used open careers mod? it sort of works how like university life did. you get career progression from using associated objects, and are otherwise are free to talk to your coworkers, grab lunch, etc during the work day.

    fogetaboutit,

    That sounds awesome actually, but no im not aware of it. I think it would be nice if its integrated tho

    Mawkey, w Why Unity's New Install Fees Are Spurring Massive Backlash Among Game Developers - IGN

    Join the Godot Chad's!

    4am, w Why Unity's New Install Fees Are Spurring Massive Backlash Among Game Developers - IGN

    May your golden parachute have secretly been stuffed with lead you greedy abusive piece of shit. Fuck these bait and switch MBAs.

    Luci, w Why Unity's New Install Fees Are Spurring Massive Backlash Among Game Developers - IGN
    @Luci@lemmy.ca avatar

    Just a reminder that other game engines exist. Some are even free and just as powerful, if not more.

    geosoco,

    Like godot!

    Here's a bunch of other dev related tools link.

    static09,

    Also stride!

    www.stride3d.net

    PeleSpirit,

    Stride looks great, thanks for the link.

    Kata1yst,
    @Kata1yst@kbin.social avatar

    And O3DE, formally Amazon Lumberyard / CryEngine

    https://o3de.org/

    wave_walnut,
    @wave_walnut@kbin.social avatar

    I'm interested in Flax game engine.
    https://flaxengine.com/

    M500,

    I know nothing about game dev.

    Is godot really just as powerful? I’ve heard of it, but I always thought it was for 2d stuff.

    dustyData, (edited )

    It shines in 2D where Unity falters, yes. But it’s perfectly capable of doing 3D competently. It’s shaders and lightning pipelines that are a bit rough on the edges, but that can be overcome with time with more brainpower coming in to contribute. The scripting is also far more robust than the hodgepodge that Unity tries to pass off as C#. The great advantage is that Godot is a non-profit foundation with a transparent governance model. Not a predatory venture capitalist behemoth like Unity.

    EnglishMobster,
    @EnglishMobster@kbin.social avatar

    Godot is a passable engine. It doesn't have a massive pile of money behind it, but it'll generally do most things adequately.

    Honestly - and I may be biased as I'm a AAA dev who works with the engine - Unreal is really the way to go. Reasonable pricing on a powerful engine. The main issue is that it's bloated as hell and there's a learning curve... but if you're an indie, it's just as usable as Unity. Plus if you wanted to get into AAA development someday, Unreal is super popular and used everywhere.

    CaptDust, (edited )

    It’s been really great for 2d, 4.0 made it really good for 3d, and it’s even decent for general GUI applications, as an engine it feels ready for wider adoption to me.

    I think it’s not up to Unreal quality, but for the vast majority of indie games I believe it’s enough.

    LetMeEatCake, (edited )

    Unity is Unreal’s biggest marketer now, it seems…

    Curious if some of the many internal AAA engines out there might start to get shopped around as a new alternate to UE. Sony, Ubisoft, and Microsoft all have a few in house engines that at least on paper seem viable for branching out — the biggest obstacle would be support, I suspect. Which isn’t a trivial obstacle, to be clear.

    idTech is due for a resurgence. Maybe Valve could even get a revival in usage of Source.

    Paranomaly,
    @Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I’d love to see Capcom license the RE Engine with how nice and smooth all the games made on that have been

    fsxylo, (edited )

    This doesn’t help people who were already knee deep in a project.

    I might invest in some cheap liquor instead.

    Enkers, w Why Unity's New Install Fees Are Spurring Massive Backlash Among Game Developers - IGN

    Riccitiello also came under fire in 2022 for referring to developers who don’t focus on microtransactions as the “biggest f*cking idiots” before apologizing.

    Classic CEO brainrot. There’s more to life than just maximizing profit.

    otter,

    Maybe this will be the kick in the rear that gets people to drop them enmasse. I’d definitely explore the other options for any new projects I was starting.

    Even if they drop this fee, is it really worth the headache in the future when they try something again?

    doctorcrimson,

    No, Unity has always been an inferior engine to others such as Unreal Engine, Lumberyard, Blender, etc. In fact, the Unreal Engine 3 UDK became free well over a decade ago, and it’s basically Unity if Unity weren’t the scummy corporate vampires they’ve always been.

    quams69,

    Let’s not pretend Epic aren’t also scummy corporate vampires

    dylanTheDeveloper,
    @dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m sorry but Blender game engine was pretty cumbersome to use. It was officially dropped awhile ago and last I heard it was picked up by the community

    LillyPip,

    In a capitalist oligarchy? There’s really not.

    KingThrillgore, w Why Unity's New Install Fees Are Spurring Massive Backlash Among Game Developers - IGN
    @KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

    The aftermath from its main audience, mobile devs, is going to be biblical.

    Voroxpete, w The next Sims game will be free-to-play with paid DLC

    Totally unrelated, but that “Totally not The Sims” game that Paradox are developing looks pretty great, huh?

    banana_meccanica, w Why Unity's New Install Fees Are Spurring Massive Backlash Among Game Developers - IGN

    They must have lost their minds. Bankrupt or even pay Unity back for a successful game you made and finished months ago? I hope they get legal action.

    KoboldCoterie,
    @KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

    Seriously. If they were changing the terms going forward, that’d at least be defensible, but trying to make it apply to everything that’s ever been made is just nonsensical.

    Fubarberry,
    @Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Even then it would be pretty bad for a lot of devs. If you’ve been developing a game in unity for years, you can’t just easily change engines just because they’ve changed the rules of using their engine.

    KoboldCoterie,
    @KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

    I agree with you; they’d have to give plenty of notice that the changes were coming and maybe even offer exemptions for developers who can show they were working on something significantly before the announcement… I don’t think there’s any way they could reasonably do it that would avoid all backlash, but this just seems like the absolute worst way to handle it.

    4am,

    So they owe devs on all previous installs? Like back payment? Or just going forward if you’ve ever used Unity?

    KoboldCoterie, (edited )
    @KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

    Any future installs starting on January 1. It does, however, mean that many developers will be more or less forced to pull their games off of storefronts, if it actually goes through. It also means that if you bought a Unity game in the past, you’re costing the developer money every time you install it (again, if this actually goes through - I can’t imagine they won’t backpedal.)

    The real issue with this isn’t the policy itself, which I would bet money won’t actually be enacted, but the fact that Unity (thinks they) can just unilaterally and retroactively change their policies. If this actually held up in court, which I think is a tenuous possibility at best (but I am not a lawyer so take that with a grain of salt), it sets an awful, awful precedent.

    NotMyOldRedditName,

    If they can change the terms of games already released and ask for a % per install, what’s stopping them from just asking for 100% and saying suck it bitches.

    geosoco, w Why Unity's New Install Fees Are Spurring Massive Backlash Among Game Developers - IGN

    This article has some new quotes and details. I know we have the other thread going, but this would get buried over there.

    pruwybn, w Pokémon collaboration with the Van Gogh Museum opens later this month
    @pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Pokemon Gogh

    geosoco,

    Even a painting is more fun.

    bfg9k, w Forza Motorsport's Blind Drive Assist Is A Breakthrough For Gaming Accessibility
    @bfg9k@lemmy.world avatar

    Love to see it.

    I know as I get older the possibility of losing one of my senses only goes up. I might need this someday.

    superfes, w Unity reveals plans to charge per game install, drawing criticism from development community

    Annnd…

    Uninstalled.

    books, w Steam's Oldest User Accounts Turn 20, Valve Celebrates With Special Digital Badges - IGN

    18 as well.

    JokeDeity, (edited ) w What games had easy soft locks that prevented you from either progressing or getting a true ending?

    Not exactly the same but sort of related: the first time I played the New Vegas DLC Honest Hearts, I accidentally shot a character that is meant to be a companion, turned him and essentially all quest characters hostile and basically forced the game to direct me from the opening of the DLC to the final mission because I couldn’t do anything to side with anyone. I thought it was the shortest most bullshit DLC with not nearly enough to do for at least a few years before I played it again and realized how much I missed.

    Mr_Buscemi,
    @Mr_Buscemi@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Dog/God?

    JokeDeity,

    No that’s Dead Money, this was Follows-Chalk.

    Mr_Buscemi,
    @Mr_Buscemi@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Ohhhh lol I got the names confused.

    I’ll have to try that in a playthrough one day to see how it goes.

    JokeDeity,

    But that is one of my favorite characters in the whole game.

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