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Katzenmann, do games w Intel Arc B580 'Battlemage' GPU announced - 1440p Ultra gaming for $249

Do these cards have good open-source Linux drivers?

mox,

The comments I’ve read from current-generation Arc owners have given the impression that their Linux drivers are catching up to AMD. Here’s the latest info:

www.phoronix.com/…/intel-arc-b580-battlemage

kippinitreal,

As an aside knowing most companies working in embedded technologies usually work in, or have strong aspects in Linux. Why then are Linux drivers so difficult to come by? Lack of customers seems unlikely since they mostly have everything ready, right? Or is it cost cutting to avoid lengthy QA on another platform? That would be easy to sidestep by giving a no-warranty driver version?

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

Most of the demand is for Windows. So if your choice is to spend resources (money) where demand is, or hope that you can possibly create demand where there isn’t any currently.

doggle,

Been a while but I played around with the a770 in Arch for a few months. It didn’t play nice with proton and even native games were hit and miss. Better support from Intel than nvidia gives, but it’s a new platform and Linux development was definitely taking a back seat to the windows drivers which were also a buggy mess.

And basically nobody had the cards so if something didn’t work your options were to give up or become a computer graphics programming wizard and fix it all yourself from scratch.

To answer the question: not really, no. The drivers themselves may have been fine, but who knows how any given software will handle a brand new GPU architecture.

simple, do games w Intel announces XeSS 2 with new Frame Generation and Low Latency tech

The first XeSS is very underrated IMO. I found that it generally looks a lot better than what FSR had at the time.

Sanctus, do games w Intel Arc B580 'Battlemage' GPU announced - 1440p Ultra gaming for $249
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

It’s official, the Intel Arc B580 GPU is launching on December 12, 2044

So excited. Can’t wait.

JoMiran, do games w Intel Arc B580 'Battlemage' GPU announced - 1440p Ultra gaming for $249
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I game at 1440p on a 1080ti. So what this tells me is that I don’t need to upgrade. Cool.

iAmTheTot,

What do you play and on what settings? I know the 1080ti was a beast but it must surely be showing its age.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I mostly play BG3 now but I was hard into Destiny 2. As long as I capped my FPS to match my monitor (so 120), I could crank it up to pretty much max. BG3 and Last Epoch I max out (still fps capped). Cyberpunk 2077 I didn’t bother with and play it on GeForce Now. Most other games I play are AA or indie and the 1080ti at 1440p handles them easily.

Space Marine II is another that’s going on GeForce Now just because I want it on Ultra everything. So literally 95%+ of my library runs maxed at 1440p/120 on a 1080ti.

Zarxrax, do games w Intel Arc B580 'Battlemage' GPU announced - 1440p Ultra gaming for $249

Slightly better performance than a 4060 and $50 cheaper. But the 4060 is about to be replaced with a newer model at this point, so is it actually a good deal? Questionable.

Addv4,

If it can ship before tariffs become an issue, maybe.

BlackLaZoR,
@BlackLaZoR@fedia.io avatar

We both know, 5060 will be like $300 or even more

Sconrad122,

And come out in 2026 after Nvidia finally gives up trying to convince the market that their $600 5070 is the low end of the GPU market

iAmTheTot,

Might be a year before Nvidia’s next 60 class card is out. They usually release from highest spec to lowest.

Blue_Morpho,

Nvidia says the $2000 5090 comes out in January. They haven’t even hinted at an announcement for the 5060 so it will be a very long time before it comes out.

acosmichippo,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

$2k, jfc.

BlackLaZoR,
@BlackLaZoR@fedia.io avatar

$2k, jfc.

They'll sell hundreds of thousands of them anyway. Neither price nor power consumption matter anymore

mnemonicmonkeys,

Fools are easily parted from their money

inclementimmigrant,

Given that Nvidia said to be upping the prices of their 50XX series and the current 4060 and 7600 cards only offer 8 GB of vram, which honestly is insufficient for modern games now and overpriced, yeah, I do think this will offer decent value to budget gamers.

SupraMario,

The 20xx series was expensive, skipped the 3x/4x and went back to amd. Even though I got my 7900xtx on sale, it still was insanely expensive for a gpu…where are the $500 top gpus gone.

themoonisacheese,
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

Number for number, sure, if it’s actually available at that price.

The problem is that Intel’s drivers sucked in the past, so they definitely have to prove themselves with this launch. I definitely wouldn’t be buying it release day if I needed a GPU.

TheHobbyist,

With its 8GB, the 4060 performs quite poorly when scaling up the resolution. There’s a great video by hardware unboxed showing how limiting 8GB are, in 1440p.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecvuRvR8Uls

DarkThoughts,

I just can't imagine the extra vram making such a difference in performance that it is enough to play in 1440p, let alone on ultra. I have a 6650 XT, which is slightly slower than the targeted 4060 / 7600 and that thing struggles even in 1080p.

TheHobbyist,

Check the video. It clearly shows how performance drops significantly the moment you run out of vram. It doesn’t meant the performance will be perfect in 1440p, it means Intel is using that as a competition ground, something the 8GB cards fail at and maybe Intel’s GPU isn’t great but the 12GB will probably make a difference (and Intel is maybe being quiet at 1080p because they are likely to perform worse).

dinckelman, do games w Intel Arc B580 'Battlemage' GPU announced - 1440p Ultra gaming for $249

Hopefully it will bring some decent generational improvements. The only thing i’m not a huge fan of is the 45% price increase over lasts gen, which isn’t even putting used or discounted cards into consideration

Kbobabob, (edited )

The last equivalent card was $112$172?

Edit: I’ve been corrected. That still seems incredibly low.

acosmichippo,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

$249 is 45% more than $172.

Kbobabob,

Haha, you’re right. Brain fart.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

Original MSRP of the A770 was $330 so that is a big improvement. I assume intel is sticking with a reasonable launch MSRP to set expectations right.

tomshardware.com/…/intel-arc-a750-a770-full-prici…

dinckelman,

The A580 launched at 175$+tax. We are not talking about the same card

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

…I completely forgot that was even a thing. It came out and nobody really cared. Only the 770/750 got love, and the a380 saw some appreciation for being the quicksync addon card.

Well regardless it’s the same MSRP as the A770 post price drop, and still outperforms it.

anamethatisnt, do games w Intel Arc B580 'Battlemage' GPU announced - 1440p Ultra gaming for $249

I can’t wait for the release in 2044! I hope 1440p is still all the rage when it launches!

Serious note: I hope Intel stays in the dgpu market, we could use another player in the space.

inclementimmigrant, (edited )

Yeah, very glad that Intel has stayed in the market.

It’s very refreshing to see a company release a reasonable, though that term has been skewed so much over the years, budget cpu that doesn’t completely suck and actually tries to run current green games.

adarza,

very glad that Intel has stayed in the market

for now, anyway. nobody knows if the discrete gpu division will survive the leadership shakeup and new ceo (when they find one)

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

It would be incredibly stupid for Intel to abandon the dGPU market after spending all this money on it. As long as Battlemage turns out alright (basically it’s only goal) I doubt it will go away.

They cut the die size nearly in half so they’re no longer blowing a fuck ton of money on a $200 GPU. As long as utilization of the silicon goes up it should be fine.

DarkThoughts,

Yeah, I think giving up after just two generations would be a weird move. It's not an easy market to enter and Intel knew that beforehand.

mnemonicmonkeys,

Apparently Intel is replacing Gelsinger because his plan to turn the company’s fortunes around are taking too long. My guess is the new CEO will likely sell off major parts of the company and I doubt the dGPU division will be kept

iAmTheTot,

This is a strange comment when the article is about the launch on December 12th. Maybe the joke went over my head?

dogslayeggs,

Read the text from the post, not the article. OP said it is releasing in 2044 instead of 2024.

catloaf,

The article says 2044 between the headline and the first picture.

iAmTheTot,

I don’t see any text for this post, it’s just a link on my end.

anamethatisnt,
iAmTheTot,

Aaah it’s in the article itself! Didn’t see that, thanks.

zib,

I haven’t been a huge fan of Intel for their cpus for some time now, but I agree, there needs to be more gpu competition out there. I’ve been wanting to try out an Arc for a while, I’m just hoping the dgpu drivers are better than what they run for their integrated chips.

RedAggroBest, do gaming w Ubisoft monetization director blames gamers, says they've been exposed as 'non-decent humans'

A more accurate description of the situation is that a broken clock is right twice a day as he validly complains about racists sending hate to his employees.

AFC1886VCC, do gaming w Ubisoft monetization director blames gamers, says they've been exposed as 'non-decent humans'
Psyhackological,
@Psyhackological@lemmy.ml avatar

How is he so disconnected from the reality? At the same time I know what he meant but did it in the worst way possible. Why corporations are so big that they don’t recognise their bad decision. “We are not the problem, it’s just you” and then swallows gamers and enshititifaction again.

GarbageShootAlt2, do gaming w Ubisoft monetization director blames gamers, says they've been exposed as 'non-decent humans'

The monetization director should never say anything ever and should be beaten with a stick if he tries, but the standpoint the article is writing from is clear:

the unveiling of Assassin’s Creed Shadows, which quickly gained controversy for numerous allegations that Ubisoft was mispresenting Japanese heritage through unpopular artistic design choices.

“unpopular artistic design choice”, hm? What does that mean?

Neither the author’s writing nor the quote from the director actually name it specifically, but we can infer that it’s probably talking about Yasuke, which means that unfortunately this ghoul director is probably completely right and this author is no better than a concern troll.

steal_your_face, do gaming w Ubisoft monetization director blames gamers, says they've been exposed as 'non-decent humans'
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

He’s prob talking about people being racist about the new assassins creed protagonist being black? If so I totally agree with him.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This coming from the company that made the artistic decision to play hip-hop music when the black protag starts a fight.

sunzu2, (edited ) do gaming w Ubisoft monetization director blames gamers, says they've been exposed as 'non-decent humans'

Parasite upset hosts are fighting back

KingThrillgore, do gaming w Ubisoft monetization director blames gamers, says they've been exposed as 'non-decent humans'
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

I get that you should cultivate the audience you want to play your game, but Ubisoft can’t win for losing. This should have gone through 20 publicists. I expect that mong Hero Hei to leap on this shit.

Ubisoft needs a complete management overhaul.

iconic_admin, do gaming w Ubisoft monetization director blames gamers, says they've been exposed as 'non-decent humans'

Ubisoft has a person who’s job title is “Monetization Director”. Who’s being non-decent now?

scorp,
@scorp@lemmy.ml avatar

LMFAOOOO

Delphia,

“Vampire says people are being selfish not wanting to be fed on.”

Melonpoly, do gaming w Ubisoft monetization director blames gamers, says they've been exposed as 'non-decent humans'

Maybe don’t piss off your customers?

Noodle07,

Customers? They don’t have those anymore

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