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mindbleach, do games w Microsoft’s Phil Spencer says acquiring Nintendo would be ‘a career moment’

Shatter this corporation.

Rand0mA, do games w Microsoft’s Phil Spencer says acquiring Nintendo would be ‘a career moment’

Well that’s a horrible thought for the gaming industry. Nintendo and Valve… and if they don’t sell the companies, they will buy majority stock, presumably for seats on the board, and buy it anyway.

Can’t they keep their fucking greedy mitts to themselves. Conglomerate mega corp shit is really starting to fuck me off.

WheeGeetheCat, do games w Meta is shutting down three Oculus games without explanation
@WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works avatar

I freaking hate that Zuk got Oculus. Made my first VR helmet freaking worthless. Forced a facebook account to play my games I already bought.

Just went ahead and shelled out for the Index after that, cause at least you know Gabe isn’t fucking around.

Pxtl, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Does this mean we’ll finally get decent gyro support in PC gaming?

curiousaur,

Tell me you don’t have a steam controller without telling me you don’t have a steam controller.

whygohomie,

Steam controller is in its own league, but hell, even the PS and Nintendo controllers have supported gyro control through steam for quite awhile. The Xbox controller is finally advancing past 2003, and into the modern era.

Pxtl, (edited )
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m more talking about API level. There isn’t a proper standard operating-system-level interface in Windows for gyro, so 3rd party controllers don’t have it, so it’s not really a thing in Windows/Xbox-first games.

This will raise the floor so every gamepad will be expected to have gyro.

Bye, do games w Microsoft addresses the huge Xbox leaks: here’s Phil Spencer’s full memo

How about they buy sega instead

I want more sonic mania games and apparently sega won’t make them.

Dasnap,
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sure they could have a partnership with them without having to purchase them. They could just fund some games for console exclusivity or something similar.

learningduck,

Yeah, look at how almost every game in the Yakuza become permanent residents on Game pass. One of the next game will even be on GP on day 1. They must be in a very good relationship

Paradox,
@Paradox@lemdro.id avatar

Given the Dreamcast and Xbox are practically cousins, I’ve always been surprised they didn’t buy em earlier

LaggyKar, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller
@LaggyKar@programming.dev avatar

I hope it actually has gyros, so XBOX can finally get gyro aim. I don’t play on XBOX, but maybe support for that in XBOX controllers would make devs more inclined to support it. But the document only mentions an accelerometer.

Also, what’s up with controllers dropping face button colors? The PS5 did the same thing.

hikaru755, (edited )
@hikaru755@feddit.de avatar

Also, what’s up with controllers dropping face button colors? The PS5 did the same thing.

From an aesthetic standpoint it just looks better^1 , and by now gaming consoles are so Mainstream that the additional accessibility the colors offer is not a good enough reason to keep them anymore.

^1 subjective, of course, but if you look at modern, big corporate design a lot of it is trending towards minimalism, very little use of color, etc.

mycodesucks, do games w Microsoft’s Phil Spencer says acquiring Nintendo would be ‘a career moment’

They already tried to acquire them once and were laughed out of the meeting.

https://www.engadget.com/microsoft-wanted-to-buy-nintendo-145746874.html

Sure, buying Nintendo would be a win for Microsoft, but Nintendo would gain absolutely nothing from the deal. Sure, there are people like myself who loudly and rightfully complain about Nintendo's business practices, but at the end of the day, it took until THIS year for Playstation 5 to finally outsell them in a single year, and they're not even CLOSE to matching total unit sales, and Xbox is doing worse than THAT. Add to that Nintendo's software attach rate, and as much as I don't like HOW they do their business, they're WILDLY successful at it and making more money as a function of their costs than anyone else in the industry, so they can't be faulted for continuing to do what is working.

I honestly don't know what Phil Spencer thinks would be different than the previous meeting in another sales proposal today, especially given Microsoft's INCREDIBLY weakened industry market position compared to Nintendo's. Microsoft is only able to approach the idea from a position of power based on its market capitalization funded by its other businesses - in the gaming industry, Nintendo simply occupies the more advantageous market position.

HidingCat, do games w Microsoft’s Phil Spencer says acquiring Nintendo would be ‘a career moment’

I don't really like Nintendo's stuff that much, but really, that would be a bad outcome for the gaming industry as a whole.

fckreddit,

Microsoft will just turn Nintendo into another dumb acquisition and the timeless quality of the Nintendo games would be lost forever.

lowleveldata, do gaming w Microsoft addresses the huge Xbox leaks: here’s Phil Spencer’s full memo

“Our plans have evolved… We now want to buy both Nintendo and Sony.”

scrubbles,
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We were not ready to fully reveal our plan of monopolizing gaming quite yet.

comicallycluttered,

“Fools! This isn’t even our final form!”

hesusingthespiritbomb, do games w Microsoft addresses the huge Xbox leaks: here’s Phil Spencer’s full memo

Honestly if you read the actual email I think there could be significant legal trouble ahead.

Spencer talks about how the main barrier to acquiring Nintendo is that they sit on a mountain of cash. He calls that unfortunate. He then proceeded to state a company with connections to Microsoft had just bought a lot of Nintendo shares, and how they could work with said company to make such an acquisition a reality.

The company in question publicly bought a massive amount of Nintendo shares. They then proceeded to pressure Nintendo to invest more capital instead of sitting on the cash pile they have now. They did this under claims that such a move would be beneficial to Nintendo in terms of ROI. However, it would also result in Nintendo being more vulnerable to an acquisition from Microsoft if any of those bets don’t pay off.

In short, it could be argued that Microsoft worked with investors to tank Nintendo so they could buy it. That’s a huge deal and will probably result in a shitstorm.

Goronmon,

In short, it could be argued that Microsoft worked with investors to tank Nintendo so they could buy it. That’s a huge deal and will probably result in a shitstorm.

I mean, Nintendo selling shares of their company is a specific decision they have made. Do you think they are confused that people other than Nintendo employees are buying these shares? Or that the investors would have an agenda other than just being "Nintendo fans"?

hesusingthespiritbomb,

Investors generally want to get a positive ROI. They don’t want to tank the company to the point where it can be acquired by another company for pennies on the dollar.

Look at Nokia. When they hired a former Microsoft exec, they weren’t expecting him to tank the entire company so it could be acquired by Microsoft.

Goronmon,

The term "activist investor" exists for a reason. And nothing from that email suggests that MS was looking to "tank" Nintendo in some nefarious plot.

Blizzard, do games w Microsoft addresses the huge Xbox leaks: here’s Phil Spencer’s full memo

“We all put incredible amounts of passion and energy into our work, and this is never how we want that hard work to be shared with the community.”

Nothing says “incredible amounts of passion” and *“community”*like “Content calalog growth drives net new hours within Game Pass customer engagement”.

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/1ebbc356-a8a3-41de-b713-bb0835f3ab34.webp

azurefirefly, do gaming w Microsoft addresses the huge Xbox leaks: here’s Phil Spencer’s full memo
@azurefirefly@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

PHIL!

CaptainEffort, (edited ) do games w Microsoft addresses the huge Xbox leaks: here’s Phil Spencer’s full memo

and even discussions about acquiring Nintendo.

Ew wtf? We’re truly headed towards a future where Microsoft just owns everything huh?

echo64, (edited )
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“headed”. if it wasn’t for them being scared about the activision blizzard deal not being hand waved through like it was, there wouldn’t have been the 2020-2022 pause too. that’ll get right back on track now. Microsoft does deals for acquisitions in feb targetting june for completion normally so about then.

Viking_Hippie,

Imagine having specific months every year where you prepare to break and then break (if not the letter then definitely the spirit of) antitrust laws and most people either don’t know or pretend that there’s nothing wrong with it 🤬

stopthatgirl7,
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June lines up with the end of fiscal quarter 2, so it kind of makes sense.

Viking_Hippie,

Yeah, it isn’t the logic of the timing I take issue with lol. Thanks for the reminder though 🙂

GunnarRunnar,

So I don't remember where but I'd heard about Microsoft wanting to buy Nintendo long time ago. The suits are always spitballing.

stopthatgirl7,
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They made an offer like 20 years ago and got laughed out of the room.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Am not sure EC would let that one slide as they really like multiple companies competing for same slice of market. That way everyone benefits. Microsoft was already kicked in the teeth for Office and browsers back in the day for trying to dominate the market.

MossBear,

To quote Picard, “The line must be drawn here! This far! No further!”

UrLogicFails, do gaming w Microsoft addresses the huge Xbox leaks: here’s Phil Spencer’s full memo

I do find it a little interesting that Phil Spencer is ignoring the content of the leaks and instead just focusing on the fact the documents are out of date. I would imagine the contents of the leaks are likely still pretty close to accurate, even if plans have changed a little, as a result.

I also wonder if Xbox will use the reaction to the leaks to determine potential changes going forward (ie: reactions to the console being all digital, reactions to the next gen console processor, etc).

navi,
@navi@lemmy.tespia.org avatar

This was an internal email, not a PR comment.

Jagermo,

Ideally, you would have internal PR and crisis comms draft such a mailing, because you plan that it gets leaked. He probably saw it once to sign off on, but it was writen by comms.

Source: this is textbook crisis pr

NekomimiNebula,
@NekomimiNebula@beehaw.org avatar

You generally don’t want to confirm leaks as being true, so you’ll either not say anything about it (this was an internal memo, not a public post) or you’ll say something along the lines of “These things are subject to change and don’t reflect the final product”

SenorBolsa,
@SenorBolsa@beehaw.org avatar

I also wonder if Xbox will use the reaction to the leaks to determine potential changes going forward (ie: reactions to the console being all digital, reactions to the next gen console processor, etc).

Almost certainly, make lemonade and all that, it can be very valuable feedback it just wouldn’t have been worth telegraphing your 5 year plan.

NocturnalMorning, do games w Microsoft addresses the huge Xbox leaks: here’s Phil Spencer’s full memo

So they’re sorry people didn’t like the idea? Is that the message?

Blaiz0r,

And “please ignore the content of the documents and instead, hey look Starfield is great right!?”

GunnarRunnar,

And funnily enough Starfield being Xbox/PC exclusive is an example why their hoarding is bad for gaming, and why the Activision deal shouldn't pass.

TheEntity,

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  • GunnarRunnar, (edited )

    Why do people behave as if Starfield was the first game not released on PlayStation?

    Who is doing that? It's just blatantly obvious that it would've been released on PlayStation without Microsoft meddling and their games sell a shitload, I mean Skyrim has been chugging along over a decade now. So I'm not really sure how Starfield is irrelevant to Ms buying shit conversation.

    It's not what being an exclusive means (let not get into linguistics here, I mean strictly the gaming industry term). I agree this specific case was anticompetitive but framing it as an exclusive just weakens this point in my opinion and allows to shift the debate away from it.

    Away from what? Everyone knows what it means -- or maybe I don't, please enlighten me in that case.

    TheEntity,

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  • GunnarRunnar, (edited )

    It's more like a default platform seeing as even former PlayStation exclusives are slowly getting a PC release as well. And I did call Starfield Xbox/PC exclusive, not just Xbox.

    It's probably not the word to describe what's getting released where and stems from marketing but it's commonly used in gaming so most understand its meaning.

    LostMyRedditLogin,

    PC is another of MS’s platforms with Windows. No shit they’re ok with their games being released on it when consumers are paying over a $100 for a Windows license every few years.

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