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Bye, do games w Microsoft addresses the huge Xbox leaks: here’s Phil Spencer’s full memo

How about they buy sega instead

I want more sonic mania games and apparently sega won’t make them.

Dasnap,
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sure they could have a partnership with them without having to purchase them. They could just fund some games for console exclusivity or something similar.

learningduck,

Yeah, look at how almost every game in the Yakuza become permanent residents on Game pass. One of the next game will even be on GP on day 1. They must be in a very good relationship

Paradox,
@Paradox@lemdro.id avatar

Given the Dreamcast and Xbox are practically cousins, I’ve always been surprised they didn’t buy em earlier

Granixo, do games w Microsoft’s Phil Spencer says acquiring Nintendo would be ‘a career moment’
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Please do it.

Ninendo is better at anyone’s hands but Nintendo’s.

GregorGizeh,

Ah yes, more monopolization please. That sure worked out great every time we tried it

Granixo,
@Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

At least it would be TRYING to have more reach to consumers.

Nintendo’s strategy of only appealing to kids and only sometimes caring about it’s actual, much larger fanbase isn’t really economically estrategic if you think about it.

GregorGizeh,

Seems to work reasonably well for them considering they have been in gaming much longer than Microsoft.

Granixo,
@Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

Because they sell their products at overpriced numbers and their current console is built on 8 year old hardware that even it’s chip makers said it was “outdated” back in 2015.

Summzashi,

And? It works great for them lol. What are you on about

mycodesucks,

Yeah, and it's sold more units than the PS5 and all iterations of the current XBox combined, at a profit on every unit. Nobody's out there holding a gun to people's heads to buy the Switch, but they sell FAR more than either of their competitors in both hardware AND software. It sounds to me like you're not actually angry at Nintendo, but angry at the majority of customers in the game industry that don't share your disdain for less powerful hardware.

Granixo,
@Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

I don’t have a dissdain for less powerful hardware, i have a disdain for mediocre hardware.

For me, the peak on 3D graphics was achieved on PS3, X360 and the Wii U.

Nintendo simply wanted easy cash and went on with (literally) inferior hardware to make the Switch.

And my main problem with Nintendo is that they refuse to allow easy access to some of their best games.

Why can’t they do a proper remake/remaster of Majora’s Mask for the current generation?

Why do they refuse to release Mother 3 outside of Japan?

When are we gonna get a new StarFox or F-Zero game?

I think it is clear WHY i have a problem with Nintendo.

mycodesucks, (edited )

Let's address these one at a time...

The hardware is weak, but the market has spoken and to them at least, it doesn't matter. If it DID matter, people wouldn't buy them. Why would Nintendo spend the extra money when consumers have already decided they're going to buy it in droves anyway? So they can spend more on manufacturing and make less profit? Yes, they wanted easy cash. What responsible company doesn't? It doesn't make any sense to spend a dime more on producing a product than what your customers demand. The limitations of the Switch are the fault of consumers who buy it, not Nintendo's. If Microsoft could sell the same number of units Nintendo can by making a game system that cost $50 to manufacture and ran on 386, you can be damn sure they would too. I completely understand your anger - I've had to spend the last 20 years watching flocks of people buy inferior, overpriced Apple products and rave about how great they are. But like Nintendo, Apple only does it because the consumers let them get away with it. Your complaint is misdirected when it should be targeted at the customer base. But good luck teaching happy people who don't know any better that the thing they like is bad. It's not a great use of your time.

All of your other problems are perfectly reasonable, but if you think Microsoft's plan if they buy Nintendo is to drop everything and start porting old titles or working on a new Starfox game, I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed. Like Disney buying Star Wars, get ready for annual, mediocre entries in your favorite series cranked out by a revolving door of existing teams to maximize output. After a couple years of half-baked Mario and Zelda games, they'll stop selling in the numbers Microsoft wants, and after the golden goose is dead, they'll dissolve any remaining Nintendo assets into their larger acquisitions structure, lay off a bunch, and put the name in the vault while they look for something else to cannibalize.

fibojoly,

So like the vast majority of PCs still run on 1060 instead of whatever the latest shit is? Sounds pretty reasonable, especially if you want mobile gaming.

Granixo,
@Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

I personally run on a GTX 750 Ti and a Core 2 Duo myself. 🧐

But i’ll admit that i’m a maniac who uses a dedicated sound card 🎵 and a gold rated 550W power supply for max performance.

Muffi,

Microsoft wouldn’t run Nintendo. They buy shit up and let it die a slow death… Poor old Skype, Minecraft and Nokia can testify among many other.

Granixo, (edited )
@Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

I can absolutely confirm Nokia.

I do know lots of people who do still use Skype though, and about Minecraft, you just need to go to Youtube to see that it’s still pretty active.

ISolox, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller

Another only digital console: ew.

Gyro in an Xbox controller: W

sugar_in_your_tea,

I wish they’d make the drive an optional add-on that you could buy later if you decide that digital only isn’t for you, instead of using it as product segmentation. But that would be pro-consumer, so not gonna happen.

Tronn4,

They should make it HD DVD drive compatible 😁

insomniac,
@insomniac@sh.itjust.works avatar

Or at the very least let us convert our disc licenses to digital.

sugar_in_your_tea,

That’s problematic because you can resell disks. I suppose they could sign disks independently and then only allow one digital owner, but then you’d need a formal process every time you resell, or worse, disallow reselling, and the cost for producing disks would go away up (not to mention returns would be a headache).

Poiar,

Fuck no.

I’m not getting an external disc drive. It will only end in tears.

I’m going all PC, Nintendo, or PS5 if Xbox goes all-digital.

I thought the selling point of consoles was supposed to be second hand games being cheap

sugar_in_your_tea,

Another benefit of having an external disk drive is that you can replace it if yours goes bad. I’m not sure what’s going to “end in tears,” it would work just like any other USB device, you plug it in and the console could load games from it.

But yeah, an all digital console makes no sense to me, unless it’s an interesting form factor like a handheld or an arcade cabinet. So the only console I have is a Switch, and everything else is on PC.

UrPartnerInCrime,
@UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works avatar

I was all for physical copies for years. And I get why people still would be because they have massive collections. But honestly now I’ve got the disc drive ps5 version and it hasn’t been used at all. Granted I only play like 3 or 4 games at a time for a long time, but every game I’ve bought has been digital.

Plus, your point of being able to replace the drive is huge (to me atleast) because every console I’ve had the drive went first; they were also super out of warranty. So I get why people want built in drives but it’s just one less port that’s going to breaks that also less and less people are going to want or need.

Lastly cause im like weighting a thesis or something haha but I bought a 4tb external hard drive that’s plugged in the back of the ps5 that holds everything I could want if the internet went dark. And I can throw that in the microwave incase of a solar storm so

sugar_in_your_tea,

Will that drive still work on the PS6? Will it work in 20 years? Can you buy more games after a Sony has shutdown the digital store? Can you sell your digital purchases if you don’t want them anymore?

Those are the kinds of problems physical media solves.

I buy digital media on my PC and physical media on my consoles, because PC games aren’t hardware specific whereas console games are.

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

I fear more and more games will become like BG3, digitally exclusive. I asked for it for my birthday and was told the game didn’t exist for PS5. I was confused, as I most certainly have been reading reviews, then I found out it’s only digital and thats why no one saw a copy.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yeah, it’s too bad they don’t have a physical release, but it is DRM-free on PC, so game preservation is totally not an issue.

MrScottyTay,

Ps5s next model is reportedly going the external disc drive route

BlackEco, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller
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That new cylindrical Series X looks like a Wi-Fi router lol

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Fridge and Router. Perfect.
Now we need what? An oven?

warmaster,

Buttplug Thumbdrive

SatyrSack,
PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

Looks like one of those Levoit Air Purifiers.

WagnasT, do gaming w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster

I wish I could forget oblivion so I could experience it the first time again. Emerging from prison after that long tutorial. Spending hours in complicated oblivion gates.

spoiler___Realizing that Martin is the protagonist and you’re a side character

And the shivering fucking isles. The butterflies.

SheeEttin,

Well, there goes that twist.

jsdz, do gaming w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster

originally set for fiscal year 2022

Perhaps they abandoned the idea when they heard about Skyblivion.

Perfide,

Starfield is also set for fiscal year 2022 in these leaks, though. Fairly safe to say everything was pushed back 2 years.

Yokozuna, (edited ) do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller
@Yokozuna@lemmy.world avatar

This is no longer a box. Time to rebrand.

maniel, (edited )
@maniel@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, Xtube seems fitting(⁠ ⁠´⁠◡⁠‿⁠ゝ⁠◡⁠`⁠)

18_24_61_b_17_17_4, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller
@18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder what the haptic feedback being a speaker is all about?

ArchmageAzor,
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

The vibrations a speaker can produce could be very useful for haptic feedback. If this is a speaker modified for that purpose with a thicker, heavier membrane I think it would work very well

Melonpoly,

That’s basically how haptic feedback already works. You can play music though the dualsence/ switch vibration motors.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

I like when I mute my switch and the rumble makes the pokemon Screams.

MrScottyTay,

Think like Nintendo’s HD rumble. There’s certain patterns it can do that make it sound like… sound. In Golf Story for example, the hits with the club, with the hd rumble on, you can perfectly hear the skins of hitting a club even with the audio of the game down. It’s strange and great at the same time. The steam controller also used it for those turn on, turn off jingles you could have on, they also sound great.

Pxtl, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Does this mean we’ll finally get decent gyro support in PC gaming?

curiousaur,

Tell me you don’t have a steam controller without telling me you don’t have a steam controller.

whygohomie,

Steam controller is in its own league, but hell, even the PS and Nintendo controllers have supported gyro control through steam for quite awhile. The Xbox controller is finally advancing past 2003, and into the modern era.

Pxtl, (edited )
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m more talking about API level. There isn’t a proper standard operating-system-level interface in Windows for gyro, so 3rd party controllers don’t have it, so it’s not really a thing in Windows/Xbox-first games.

This will raise the floor so every gamepad will be expected to have gyro.

primarybelief, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller

2 TB seems incredibly limited for a disc-less design. 4 TB would be more suitable for a base flagship model.

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

Disc’s haven’t seemed to matter in a while. “Pop in this game to download 35GB of game data” “download complete, please download 12GB update before playing game” “update complete, do you have code for expansion pack?, if so please download these 3 7-9GB updates” *phew only a tenth of a TB later I am playing the game

kadu, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new controller
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

I’m super interested in the new controller.

I got the 8bitdo ultimate and deeply regret buying it, so now I’m back to my Series S controller.

lazycouchpotato,
@lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world avatar

I’m guessing you’re talking about the wired version that works with the Xbox console? What made you not like it?

I have the 8bitdo Pro 2 which I use with my phone and iPad. Aside from the rubber wearing out on the thumbsticks, I’m happy with it.

Stovetop, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new controller

So they are going for the Apple trashcan look, is that it?

pirrrrrrrr,

It looks like my Ubiquity Amplifi router.

They even used the word Ubiquity when discribing the new controller features.

The home entertainment unit is going to be covered in cylinders.

lowleveldata, do gaming w Microsoft addresses the huge Xbox leaks: here’s Phil Spencer’s full memo

“Our plans have evolved… We now want to buy both Nintendo and Sony.”

scrubbles,
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We were not ready to fully reveal our plan of monopolizing gaming quite yet.

comicallycluttered,

“Fools! This isn’t even our final form!”

hesusingthespiritbomb, do games w Microsoft addresses the huge Xbox leaks: here’s Phil Spencer’s full memo

Honestly if you read the actual email I think there could be significant legal trouble ahead.

Spencer talks about how the main barrier to acquiring Nintendo is that they sit on a mountain of cash. He calls that unfortunate. He then proceeded to state a company with connections to Microsoft had just bought a lot of Nintendo shares, and how they could work with said company to make such an acquisition a reality.

The company in question publicly bought a massive amount of Nintendo shares. They then proceeded to pressure Nintendo to invest more capital instead of sitting on the cash pile they have now. They did this under claims that such a move would be beneficial to Nintendo in terms of ROI. However, it would also result in Nintendo being more vulnerable to an acquisition from Microsoft if any of those bets don’t pay off.

In short, it could be argued that Microsoft worked with investors to tank Nintendo so they could buy it. That’s a huge deal and will probably result in a shitstorm.

Goronmon,

In short, it could be argued that Microsoft worked with investors to tank Nintendo so they could buy it. That’s a huge deal and will probably result in a shitstorm.

I mean, Nintendo selling shares of their company is a specific decision they have made. Do you think they are confused that people other than Nintendo employees are buying these shares? Or that the investors would have an agenda other than just being "Nintendo fans"?

hesusingthespiritbomb,

Investors generally want to get a positive ROI. They don’t want to tank the company to the point where it can be acquired by another company for pennies on the dollar.

Look at Nokia. When they hired a former Microsoft exec, they weren’t expecting him to tank the entire company so it could be acquired by Microsoft.

Goronmon,

The term "activist investor" exists for a reason. And nothing from that email suggests that MS was looking to "tank" Nintendo in some nefarious plot.

ILikeBoobies, do gaming w The Elder Scrolls VI will skip PS5 and isn’t coming until at least 2026

That puts it at “at least” 15 years after the last entry in the series

Hard to imagine it will have much of a fan base

d3Xt3r,

But Bethesda could very well release a Skyrim Extra Special Edition in the interim, and fans will lap it up, no doubt. Jokes aside, there are many large fan-projects in the works which fans are looking forward to, such such as OpenMW, Skyblivion and Skywind, not to mention more “normal” mods for Skyrim itself, so I doubt the interest in the franchise is going away any time soon.

millie,

To be fair, Baldur’s Gate 1 and 2 came out in the 90s.

ILikeBoobies,

I would have attributed it’s success to the success of Divinity and DnD

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