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theKalash, do games w Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard deal approved by UK regulators

Nice, let’s get this on the way!

jerome, do games w Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard deal approved by UK regulators
@jerome@lemmy.world avatar

Laws against monopolies don’t exist, anymore, eh?

NuPNuA,

Because this won’t give MS a monopoly in the slightest. There’s still tons of Devs and publisher’s out there on various states of first, second and third party relationships with MS, Sony and Nintendo and new indie Devs pop up almost weekly. It gives them a massive advantage having CoD as a first party Gamepass title, yes, but that’s not what a monopoly means.

dudewitbow,

People conflate monopoly when they should be saying oligopoly

lorty,
@lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

After this deal MS will STILL be in third place.

paultimate14,

3rd place in… What? I’m trying to search around to see what you’re referring to here, but I can’t find anything.

By total market cap, Microsoft already blows these companies out of the water. By just videogame divisions, Sony and Nintendo are way farther ahead because of hardware sales, but that doesn’t really make sense to include in the conversation about acquiring a publisher. I can’t find any solid numbers either way isolating publishing, other than that the top 5 in recent years seems to be Tencent, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, and Activision/Blizzard (with EA hanging around too). Seems like any of those two merging is going to be bad for everyone other than shareholders.

lorty,
@lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes, third place in total gaming revenue. I agree it will be bad, but let’s not pretend this is going to shift the market in a big way, because it won’t.

paultimate14,

How do you figure that 2 of the top 6 merging won’t shift the market in a big way?

Also, total gaming revenue wouldn’t be a good way to compare it because that includes revenue streams that’s are unrelated to Activision/Blizzard. Microsoft is hardly even competing with Nintendo at all considering they don’t have a handheld device. And Microsoft releases way more games on PC than Nintendo or even Sony, which further reduces the relevance of hardware sales.

It’s the developing and publishing industries specifically that are going to be impacted by this, because that’s what Activision/Blizzard does.

The impact to hardware sales will be indirect: I would guess a pretty small number amount of people might switch to Xbox or buy an Xbox in addition to a PlayStation just for version exclusives, but probably not a huge amount as long as Microsoft keeps COD on PlayStation.

slazer2au, do games w Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard deal approved by UK regulators

Rip

Zoldyck,

Blizzard was already dead

slazer2au,

I mean for gamers in general. This merger will not benefit consumers.

leftzero,

Activision Blizzard was already about as anti-consumer as possible, so in this particular case at worst nothing will change, at best Microsoft might actually clean house and there might be some improvements for the consumers…

slazer2au,

I genuinely love your optimism.

Microsoft will use this purchase to further restrict releases to non Xbox consoles, no matter when they agree to to industry bodies. It is in Microsofts interest to only release on their platforms as releasing to PS or Switch will cost them in Xbox purchases.

leftzero,

Yeah, sorry, I was thinking from a PC standpoint and sort of ignored the whole console perspective (though, frankly, the console market seems to have been absolutely fubared from its inception, from a consumer standpoint, so anything Microsoft does will probably be as relevant as farting into an ocean of shit…)

NuPNuA,

Benefits me as an Xbox owning, Gamepass subscribing consumer.

FooBarrington,

Short-term, maybe. But surely we can all think beyond that?

mars296,

I have seen so many comments cheering this merger on because they have gamepass... No, we can't all think beyond short term.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah but game production isn’t about the consumers. It’s a business.

altima_neo, (edited )
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

They’ve been dead since Activision merged with them.

hoshikarakitaridia, do games w Unity’s CEO is out, but that still may not be enough for developers

Yeah I’m gonna give the summary of the most important comments on this:

  • Unity is untrustworthy
  • they pulled this shit knowing it would fall flat
  • the CEO got his position when he was already known to be a prick
  • shady insider trading is shady
  • the board who chose or approved the CEO is still the same
  • there’s solid alternatives

These are all the reasons why you shouldn’t go back to Unity. That said, I’m very sorry for the Devs of Unity who most definitely don’t deserve this.

Okalaydokalay, do games w Unity’s CEO is out, but that still may not be enough for developers

It shouldn’t be when they were talking about making that shit retroactive for games that were already released. Unity proved they cannot be trusted. Besides, developers should move to other engines for the sole reason of sending a message to the other guys in the industry like Epic’s Unreal Engine. Pull shit like this and you’ll lose out on the developers. Make them realize that Unity was a failed experiment and no one wants to be like them.

ech, do games w Unity’s CEO is out, but that still may not be enough for developers

For anyone paying attention, it shouldn’t be. Anyone that goes back to business as usual fully deserves the rug pull when this or something worse is implemented again.

iwenthometobeafamilyman, do games w Unity’s CEO is out, but that still may not be enough for developers

A scorpion wants to cross a river but cannot swim, so it asks a frog to carry it across. The frog hesitates, afraid that the scorpion might sting it, but the scorpion promises not to, pointing out that it would drown if it killed the frog in the middle of the river. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: “I am sorry, but I couldn’t resist the urge. It’s my character.”

pastermil,

🎵 I’m giving you a nightcall to tell you how I feel 🎵

away2thestars, do games w Unity’s CEO is out, but that still may not be enough for developers
@away2thestars@programming.dev avatar

I’m working on a 7 year old game with Unity. It will take me a long time and energy to port to Godot. I’m gonna carry on with unity, but I’m learning Godot at the same time. I really wish there was a porting button you could press.

chemical_cutthroat,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

With all of the bullshit going on, I wouldn’t be surprised if a larger company creates on and then releases it, possibly even as foss.

APassenger,

That would be awesome.

And karmic.

away2thestars,
@away2thestars@programming.dev avatar

A button to export project you mean? Amazon could definitely give Godot some love. There are exporting projects, but they break a bit on the code part apparently

Crackhappy,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

I would really love to hear your perspective on the differences between unity and godot and the minutiae of the port. Also, I’m a longtime coder.

away2thestars,
@away2thestars@programming.dev avatar

I spent a week and really liked Godot, lightweight, amazing UX, very compatible with Linux, and the feeling of being part of a community is so good. C# support is great, but not as good as Gdscript, and coding in C# is so much faster for me. For instance there is no hot reloading on C#. Managed to get Vs code working and debugging after as while but broke the compatibility with unity of Vs code. So it’s tricky to work on both engines on Vs code simultaneously.

Crackhappy,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

It’s hard to quantify the daily trials of coding.

DerisionConsulting, do games w Unity’s CEO is out, but that still may not be enough for developers

Choices are not made by 1 person in an organization.
Getting rid of one person isn’t solving the program, pretending that it is is insulting.

Aurenkin,

Yeah exactly, he left because he finished the job he was there to do. Now they are acting like this is some kind of move to placate their customers as if it wasn’t the plan all along.

MxM111,

I give you case in counter-point: Xitter.

Crackhappy,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

I will counter your argument with some Xcrement

Risk,

Public owned organisation, then.

dan1101, do games w Microsoft eyes closing its giant Activision Blizzard deal next week

Anybody wanna speculate on how soon they will weasel out of their promise to keep releasing COD on Playstation?

MichaelHawkinSnider,

As soon as the deal closes.

Pistcow, do games w Microsoft eyes closing its giant Activision Blizzard deal next week

We will conclude this acquisition of Blizzar Activision with the customary groping

Someguy89, do games w Microsoft eyes closing its giant Activision Blizzard deal next week

Totally not a monopoly… 🙄

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I’m concerned with the state of consolidation in the gaming space (and just about every other market, I might add) but I also find it hard to argue they’re a monopoly. They’re number three in the console space and thanks to Proton Microsoft’s de facto stranglehold on PC gaming OS’s is weaker than ever. I could see cloud gaming being a problem in the future but it’s such a nascent market who knows what will happen there.

illi,

thanks to Proton Microsoft’s de facto stranglehold on PC gaming OS’s is weaker than ever

Can you elaborate? I had to miss something…

Aggy,

I think consolidation creates many issues even if it isn't a full monopoly right now. Like making it easier for that full monopoly to show up later.

NeverSleepWalking, do gaming w EA being EA

Just so you know, it still says EA SPORTS: It’s in the game when you boot up EAFC24.

It’s just possible to skip it.

BnjmnBanks,
@BnjmnBanks@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for this.

penquin, do gaming w EA being EA

Fifa games suck anyway. Never liked it. PES/ winning eleven all the way.

woelkchen, do gaming w EA being EA
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

I hate to be the advocate of EA here but I’m convinced it’s because FIFA is not allowing them to use the trademark any longer and the mentioned loopholes are either permitted by FIFA or will be closed soon.

BnjmnBanks,
@BnjmnBanks@lemmy.world avatar

Nothing to do with previous titles. You could still purchase them. This is EA locking you into playing the current version of the game. Some people like the mechanics of the older games and don’t want to have to pay these games that are more store front than actual game.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

You could still purchase them.

Licensed stuff in games expires all the time, leading to them being delisted. Usually licensed music, though.

BnjmnBanks,
@BnjmnBanks@lemmy.world avatar

True. This might be that. I just have trust issues with EA.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

I just have trust issues with EA.

I’m not here so make anyone trust EA. Fuck them.

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