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Blizzard, do gaming w Fallout 4's most popular mods are now ones that remove Bethesda's disastrous 'next gen' update

The title and the article are overdramaric. On PS5 it’s working great. The issue looks to be messing with mods (which had been expected), not breaking the actual game.

I’m not sure what exactly is the point of installing this update on PC other than a questline and some cosmetics? As this update was mainly targeted for consoles to increase framerate and resolution - which it did better than I expected - and PC players could already do that without the update.

JohnBrownsBussy2,
@JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net avatar

A lot of people (myself included) had the update installed automatically by Steam with no option for rollback, so it caught people off guard.

Blizzard,

Ok, that ideed sucks.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Works fine for me on Xbox Series X with the exception of a couple of crashes over the course of 3-5 hours. The only issue I see is this should have been an optional upgrade to give the modders time to fix their stuff.

Blizzard,

I only experienced framerate drop in the prologue (in the house in 2077 and in the Vault) and 1 crash during it. Once I was out in the open world, tha game has been flawless.

The only thing I expected from this update was 60 FPS and - if it’s not too much to ask - higher resolution. They delivered that and more. Game runs smoothly and looks much better than I expected, more detailed (and much better than FO76). They also threw in some new content which I haven’t discovered yet so cannot vouch for it. The Enclave paint look great on everything though.

And remember, this is a free update. So I think people are going a bit too hard on Bethesda this time (I know it’s the trendy thing to do). They pissed me off when they delayed the update just to sync it with the show. But looking back from their perspective it was probably the right call since everyone is now more hyped to play the games.

EDIT: And exactly as you say - modders just need some time to update their mods. But you cannot expect Bethesda to have their update checked for compatibility with every mod out there.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve done some of the enclave mission, it’s not bad.

Carighan, do gaming w Grand Theft Auto publisher Take-Two Interactive is laying off 5% of its workforce and 'rationalizing its pipeline,' the latest skin-crawling corporate euphemism for people losing their jobs
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe we should rationalize their CEO with an actual pipeline, to use another euphemism…

corytheboyd, (edited ) do games w 505 Games' parent company lays off 30% of its workforce, says gamers really only want sequels so that's what it's going to make
@corytheboyd@kbin.social avatar

You may not agree, but they are right. We are not most people. They want, and they have, that sweet “lowest common denominator” market, and they will take advantage of that until something else generates more cash. The “lowest common denominator” demand more CoD and whatnot. They don’t care if it’s bad, because them and all their friends will buy it and perhaps even have some fun. The big studios converging on vapid cash grabs instead of creating interesting content is depressing, sure, but hardly surprising in a world where morals and ethics don’t matter, where you can get away with the absolute most heinous, reprehensible acts, and suffer zero consequences.

I don’t really care though. The indie scene is unaffected by this, and has only gotten better every year for as long as it has been around. It’s fucking GLORIOUS already, and it’s not going anywhere because it’s not run by an oligarchy of publicly traded shitfactories.

Narrrz,

and the open source, free tools for creating such games are getting better almost by the day.

Djennik,

There is still hope in projects like baldurs gate 3

GenEcon,

Which is a sequel…

The best selling new game was Hogwarts Legacy. Which still has a strong IP behind it (which really was the only reason the game was selling so much).

The only game in the top 10 of the best selling games 2023 without being a sequel or having a strong IP behind it, is Starfield.

DrQuint,

Yeah. I’m of the same mind. I was here to witness the resurgence of Boomer and Movement Shooters. Now, we’re in the cusp of the resurgence of RTS. I am very much happy with the state of gaming, without having to focus on sequels.

The last game published by 505 I played were apparently Indivisible, which was trash. I never played Ghostrunner nor Control which basically eliminates most of their notable recent output. I think I can safely say I’ll be fine with my continued ignoring of them as a publisher.

Entropywins,
@Entropywins@kbin.social avatar

Some people didn't like it but I fucking loved Control...great game and worth a play imho

Carlo,

It’s very well done! It wasn’t really on my radar, but I got it for free from epic, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Ditto Kingdom Come: Deliverance. I think the only things I’ve paid for on the epic store are the dlc from those gems.

scrubbles,
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Yup. They’ll let smaller studios take risks on new IP and buy them if it’s profitable. They get the wins but none of the losses.

imapuppetlookaway,

Yeah i think we’re in a golden age of indie games. When i want to find a new game, i search youtube for “best indie games of 2018” or 2017, 2021 or whatever. So much great stuff to play made in the last 5-10 years. And so much more affordable. And it feels great to give my money to these devs.

MrMcGasion,

If someone told me 4-5 years ago, that the year we got really incredible sequels to both Breath of the Wild, and that cool new Spider-Man game on PS4, my most-enjoyed game would be an indie Lovecraftian light-horror fishing game, I wouldn’t have believed them.

slaacaa,

Also, making a good game is always a risk, it’s an intersection of tech, business, and art. Control e.g. sold only a few million copies, depsite being widely praised.

If you however want be sure, you invest a lot in marketing and monetisation, targeting a wide audience as you said, and can take a lower risk to make back your investment. Absolutely hate this of course, but luckily there are still good games, as long as e.g. Sony is willing to take that risk to sell more PS consoles, or we get wonders like BG3

Asafum,

Spacebourne 2.

Not polished as it’s still in early access, not amazing graphics, but turning out to be a damn good game that most “AAA” developers wouldn’t even try to make, that was made by one guy (and now a small team of volunteers/contractors lol)

Bongles, do games w Leaked email reveals Phil Spencer's damning verdict on AAA games: 'Most publishers are riding the success of franchises created 10+ years ago'

Starfield advertised something like “Bethesdas first new universe in 25+ years” (paraphrasing)

That is not a good thing.

JackbyDev,

Hypothetically I don’t see a problem with things like a new entry in Elder Scrolls. The problem (to me) seems more like constantly remaking Skyrim into new editions and for each new console.

Transcendant,

constantly remaking Skyrim into new editions

That’s pretty much Starfield in a nutshell, Skyrim in space. Don’t get me wrong it’s a fun game but it’s basically reskinned Skyrim with a few new systems bolted on. I’m also noticing some reused assets from Fallout, pretty sure the noise the scanner makes when opening is the same as opening the PipBoy.

EdanGrey,

I’m quite happy with starfield, but I did notice some reused noises definitely. I’m not sure that I particularly mind though

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

And then most of the universe was loading screens

flicker, do games w The official Lord of the Rings special effects studio is making a cozy hobbit game

From time to time, I feel bad for all the people who don't enjoy crafting, fishing, or farming elements in their games now that those things are in every game.

Then I remember that I love them so much that I just get back to enjoying them.

BleatingZombie,

The only thing I’m not a fan of is “base building”. I’m just not creative enough

They either look bland and functional, or just plain bad

theterrasque,

Eh, I still like it. Sure, it might look like an mc Escher painting put together by a blind crow, but it’s my pile of garbage.

funkless_eck,

I always make a homely home for my character as respite from being a murder hobo

and then I make a weird creepy modern art sculpture type thing as thats what you’d expect from the murder hobo

vlad76, do games w CD Projekt recommends starting a new game when Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 drops: 'starting fresh will enhance your overall gameplay experience'
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’m looking forward to playing it again. After BG3. And in between Tarkov. After Starfield. I guess by that point Elden Ring DLC might be out. Also need to play RE4 remaster. . Also didn’t a Harry Potter game come out recently? Also Atomic Heart had a DLC. Still need to try Hell Let Loose…

Maybe one day.

123,

Also

VentraSqwal,

Ya I’ll probably bump it up ahead on the list because I loved the game so much. But I know what you mean, I’m way behind on games. I just beat the FF7 Remake and am in the middle of Horizon Zero Dawn (ya, the first one).

Redredme,

You forgot about armoured core 6. Which, you just must play, especially with that backlog.

bbigras,

You forgot about armoured core 6. Which, you just must play, especially with that backlog.

I suck at souls games but I like robots. Should I still give it a try?

Breezy,

Yes, its not a souls game anyways, just a hard mech game. Which is kinda the staple for mech games.

Also though you can suck at soul like games but still enjoy them. Honestly the first step into getting good is figuring out which type of cheese you prefer. Ive always been partial to big sticks turning enemies into pancakes. It works on most games that are similar. Havent found a weapon to do so in lie of p yet, but thats a good thing for me since it changed my play style.

bbigras,

Thanks!

PoetSII,

Harry Potter and Starfield ain’t worth your time mate

vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Harry Potter probably not. But I’ll try Starfield.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

If you’re a fan, I’d say the beginning when you’re in Hogwarts and Hogsmeade is worth playing. But as soon as the plot takes you south, just stop playing.

Starfield is…a Bethesda game, no doubt about that. You’ll probably like it okay if you like their games, just don’t expect to be impressed or anything like that.

vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Bethesda games are a skeleton for mods for me, so I’ll pick it up after the modding scene matures.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

If someone has the time and resources, they could make a really good game out of it.

rip_art_bell,
@rip_art_bell@lemmy.world avatar

BG3 is amazing

Cabeza2000, do games w Baldur's Gate 3 has ruined Starfield for me

BG3 is critically acclaimed and on path to win every GOTY award this year. Taking this into consideration any game compared against BG3 may look lackluster, not just Starfield.

I didn’t play these games yet but I did play The Outer Worlds and it was acceptable to me. If Starfield is a game along the same lines then I am OK with that.

Immersive_Matthew,

Hogwarts Legacy was a very solid title with very memorable characters, story and wow what a detailed fun world. Have not played BG3 yet so cannot compare, but Hogwarts is my GOTY so far.

sirico,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

You don’t remember that goblin whose blood was on Ranroks hands?!

Daevan,

Lol, if you think this of Hogwarts then your mind Will be blown away by the depth of BG3 story

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

The story of Hogwarts wasn’t that great but neither was BG3.

pomodoro_longbreak,
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

How dare you

seejur, (edited )

Just finished Hogwarts yesterday for the first time. I absolutely love the world building, but I found the story a bit lacking. In my mind I ended up siding with Ranrok, in his quest to free the goblins, Sebastian (Solomon was an asshole thorough and through), and the ending was pretty vanilla. Also the whole idea in the ending of keeping the ancient power secret makes no sense: the same implications could be made100% for normal magic

glibg10b, (edited ) do games w The recent criticism of Linus Tech Tips, explained

I think this article misrepresents things. They left out the worst stuff.

secret301,

Journalism is dead and I hate seeing people post this shit instead of the actual source. There’s no other way to get information

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

TLDR?

jjjalljs, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

I don’t accept the premise that working a job to make someone else rich is axiomatically good.

Many jobs make the world worse. I’d rather someone sit at home and play Tetris than build murder-drones, or work on some sort of AI powered stalking-ad company.

Many of the jobs are just bullshit. Another “AI” company? Another product manager with no real decision making power? A few billion dollars poured into “the metaverse”? Waste of time and resources.

That aside, most jobs make the owners rich while labor gets a few crumbs. You work all day making widgets. The boss pays you $10. They sell your widgets for $1000. That’s a bum deal. But there’s a thousand desperate people waiting to take your spot, plus union busters eager to betray labor and beat you up. Pay people the real value of their labor, and treat them with respect, and you’d likely get more people working.

Johnson is a heretical, hypocritical, piece of shit. No one should take him seriously. His church should – wait, he’s southern baptist? The “we’re going to split off because we want slavery” sect? Not surprising. Those assholes suck.

gabbath,

This. The whole framing needs to be pushed back against.

ieatpwns, do games w Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

Oh god they’ve been shitting on video games since pinball. Get some new lines bro

wabasso,

They should control video games like they control guns.

Jake_Farm, do gaming w The 'Stop Killing Games' initiative is close to its final deadline, and after that, its leader is understandably done: 'Either the frog hops out of the pot, or it's dead'
@Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz avatar

Its OK to blaim PirateSoftware for killing the movement with his blatant and explicit lies.

the_q,

What’d he do it say? I’m ootl.

osaerisxero,
@osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org avatar

tl;dr he sandbagged the movement when it was beginning to build momentum with a bunch of, what would charitably be called, misunderstandings of the whole point.

It's covered pretty thoroughly here: https://youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo?t=1117

Jake_Farm,
@Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz avatar

Given he contradicts himself multiple times in an effort to make the movement look incompetent, I would say it was more than just a misunderstanding.

Aidinthel, do games w Tempest Rising accidentally launched a week early on Steam, and the publisher has decided to just go with it

I’m happy to see a new rts actually getting a good reception. Sometimes it seems the genre is cursed.

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Its pretty much exactly like command & conquer, but its modern, so fun to play.

Damage,

Set in 1997 in the wake of World War 3, the world has become afflicted by a strange new growth called Tempest, a russet, flowery structure that looks like a plant but isn’t. Tempest is hazardous to human health and spreads rapaciously, but it’s also an abundant energy resource. This makes it the primary catalyst of a war between Earth’s two dominant factions, the Global Defence Force (GDF) and the Tempest Dynasty.

You weren’t kidding, lol.
Good anyway, someone has to make good C&C games, and sure as hell it ain’t gonna be EA.

slumberlust, do games w WoW guild uses exploits to get world 'first' on new raid, gets banned, puts its name backwards and does it again

BadLuckMax also snagged several pieces of ill-gotten Mythic gear, including the unfortunately named Rushed Beta Launchers boots which, being leather (and thus useless on a Paladin) feels like a brutal jab at Blizzard.

Is this a retail thing where Paladins can only wear plate or is the author not familiar with the mechanic? Plenty of paladins taking cloth/leather/mail in OG and Classic.

the_q,

You get some kind of bonus if you wear your classes preferred armor type iirc.

idontknowman,
@idontknowman@sh.itjust.works avatar

from cata on you got 5% bonus to your primary stat for wearing your armour class, so plate for example on pally. but gear works differently in retail so all plate has strength and int on it so you really have no reason to use cloth or leather

Lost_My_Mind, do games w WoW guild uses exploits to get world 'first' on new raid, gets banned, puts its name backwards and does it again

ITT: I learn WoW is still a thing. Honestly thought that shit died like 15 years ago.

Pregnenolone,

You have to be living under a rock to not know that WoW is still an incredibly popular game. It’s easily still the most popular MMORPG

tonytins,
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

If the only pre-live service MMORPG still going strong.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

I was actually surprised to see Ultima Online is still up and active recently. It must have a pretty decent sized population for EA not to shut down and repurpose the servers for Battlefield or something.

tonytins,
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

Now there’s a name I haven’t heard in a hot minute.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

What about FF14 or Guild Wars 2? Don’t they count as pre-live service MMORPGs, too?

tonytins,
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

checks Seems games as a service model that we know today really picked up steam at around the late 2010s. So, yeah…

acosmichippo,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

what makes wow not a live service game? aren’t all MMOs by definition live service?

tonytins, (edited )
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

I mean, yeah. Just don’t tend not to lump the older ones in it because of how awful the practice has become since the phrase was formalized.

Kusimulkku,

I’ve been living under quite a rock then, haven’t heard WoW even mentioned for years (and years)

the_q,

It’s a failed attempt at minimizing. Lots of people reply like that.

PapaStevesy,

No you don’t.

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

I genuinely didn’t know it was still big. Everyone I know who played it quit ten years ago and expansion launches no longer hit my feeds.

riot, do games w Manor Lords, the best city builder of 2024, hits 3 million sales as players continue to fill its maps with muddy medieval towns
@riot@lemmy.world avatar

Interesting, and good for the dev!

But it’s early access and 40 euros, so not for me at the moment. Still, for those curious, here’s the direct link to Steam.

Phoonzang,

Civ 7 is Early Access (Firaxis called it like that themselves) and the founders edition is 130 bucks, so I guess this is becoming normalized…

Panda,

Do you mean early access or advanced access?

Phoonzang,

It is advanced access, however Firaxis did an announcement shortly after release, addressing the rocky release and promising to fix things, where they (accidentally) called it early access. It seems they changed that now, still, it was there (and was made fun of) in forums and other Lemmy like communities.

boreengreen,

It’s been normalized for a long time. I still don’t buy it if it says early access though.

GreenMartian,

I just checked and nearly choked. I’ve played every single Civ game ever made. As much as I love the series, there’s no way in hell I’m paying AU$160 for a base game.

MutilationWave,

It does include the first two expansions that will come out and leader packs and shit. I have sunk far more hours into civ than any other game. I very rarely buy a game, maybe twice a year. So it was worth it to me. I’ll play it for 500+ hours and at that point it’s 30 cents an hour of entertainment.

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