As for me, it used to be 50/50 back when I studied. However, ever since I’ve entered the workforce I mostly stopped watching videos.
I need to constantly learn new things, tackle new problems and optimize stuff. I usually go for the highest difficulties too. In theory, my job provides these tasks for me, however, I get a lot of satisfaction from trying and failing things over and over until I’ve figured them out myself. I can’t usually do this professionally, as most problems have already been solved and I’m just learning how others did it. The same as playing with a guide or watching a video on a game. It just doesn’t scratch the itch.
I could never get into watching other people play video games just like I could never get into watching other people play sports: They both usually bore me pretty quickly even with ones I have fun playing.
Same. I never watch other people playing games, or sports for that matter, with LoL Worlds being the exception, which might be a little weird because I don’t even play it myself. I’ll usually watch the knock-out stage. My husband watches the entire thing, but that’s a bit too much for me.
Anyway, yeah why would I watch someone else play a game when I can just play it myself? For games I haven’t played yet, I would spoiler it for myself. Games I’ve already played… well, don’t need to watch that anymore, right?
I know many people watch/listen to that stuff in the background, while doing other things, but my background is for music. ;)
Anyway, yeah why would I watch someone else play a game when I can just play it myself?
I think some of it is watching people do things you cannot do. Competitive play, in both sports and gaming, is quite a different thing to watch people with skill vs what you could do yourself. Plus I suspect there is a lot of the psychology that goes with routing for a team and the feeling of being part of something bigger or something.
Personally I don’t really get it myself but I can see why people would. IMO it is not much different from why so many people like watching sporting events rather than going out and playing themselves.
For games I haven’t played yet, I would spoiler it for myself. Games I’ve already played… well, don’t need to watch that anymore, right?
That is true for single player games, but not for match making/competitive ones. I suspect that people are more so watching competitive ones than single player story driven games.
Yeah, you make sense. I’m not really a multiplayer or competitive game player at all, that’s probably why. Single player all the way (though if I could go back to early years Ragnarok Online I would without a second thought :p). Not really a sports person either, rooting for teams and such, meh. Guess it’s just not really my thing at all. It happens. Or I haven’t found the thing I might like yet, could be.
But for the people who like this stuff, they’ll never run out of content, plenty of videos and streamers everywhere. That’s gotta be nice.
Yeah but also stuff like, someone made a video about beating a highscore playing Planet Coaster building literally only a swimming pool. I would’ve probably never gotten the idea, it’s not incredibly interesting to play, but it’s fun to see someone do it once.
Usually people watch when they can’t play, I watch on the phone on the toilet, when I eat food, in the bed to relax after I’ve been playing already for hours. It’s cool to see how other people play games you play.
You’re not boring xD different stuff is just for different people. Also you’re just not looking for it or know any good YouTubers.
I also read/watch actual series, but really you probably gotta admit that a tv show or series is probably not that much different than watching a well produced YouTube video of a game, just the content appeals to a different audience.
Hmm, well, I recently finished a playthrough of Mass Effect, N7 day every year, hm? Before that it was Dragon Age, mostly due to the release of Veilguard. Sadly that game is apparently so terrible that I’ll probably never play it. Some of my friends already regret buying it and sent me clips of the atrocious dialogue. At the very least it’ll have to be 80% off if I ever try it, lol.
Been replaying a lot, The Witcher 3, Disco Elysium, Divinity:OS2. Early this year I did a Fallout 4 playthrough with all chapters of Sim Settlement 2 installed. Lucky too, that I got to play the entire story before the update hit and ruined my game. I don’t think even half of my mods work anymore, so thanks, Bethesda, for Skyrimming Fallout 4.
Really I’m just waiting for KCD to release, somewhere in February next year, so I’ll probably be replaying KCD. Also on a rewatch of The Wire at the moment and almost done reading the Culture series by Banks.
Guess I just love stories.
Anything good you’ve played recently? Or watched being played? ;)
From what you played I only played Witcher myself, and recently watched a video on, dunno maybe that can make you understand why people watch gaming videos, it’s essentially about what would happen if you play the game out of order: youtu.be/aA0KgaW513g
I have mostly been playing Baldurs Gate 3 and Beyond All Reason
Ah, yes, BG3. I’ve spent way too many hours on that game already, figured I should replay some other games. Still probably will go back to it though, it’s just so good. Hadn’t heard of Beyond All Reason, but it does look interesting. I see it’s pvp RTS, yes? Pvp is not my thing, but a solo campaign would be nice.
And that video, yeah, I certainly understand that people want to know these things, different outcomes and dialogue, because I do too, it’s the reason I love RPG’s so much, but you see that’s the thing: I do it myself. I already played the Witcher multiple times and did everything in different orders. I’ve played Mass Effect more times than I care to admit and make different choices each time. Doing missions in different orders, or not doing certain missions at all. Letting different people die, making different companions loyal, different romances, paragon/renegade decisions, etc. Same goes for BG3 and Dragon Age and Divinity:OS/2, etc. Any game I enjoy enough to replay, I’ll replay in different ways and it’s so awesome to play a game for the umpteenth time and still find things you haven’t seen before. So I’d prefer no spoilers. I’ll cheat sometimes and just try something out of curiosity, then afterwards I reload. Or I change plot flags. Ha, but most people probably don’t want to spend the time on it and videos are a lot less time-consuming.
I actually just cancelled my GamePass last night. I rarely use it, as I spend most of my time gaming on steam, and I own almost all the games I want to play.
Why are people so confused? Microsoft wanted monopoly by acquiring a bunch of companies, to consolidate their intellectual property and shaft it’s employees, the people who created the software in the first place.
Unfortunately, a lot of people blindly believe in systems and authorities. It doesn’t matter how many times they’re shown that companies give zero fucks and will light everything on fire at a whim, they think they’re rational actors who will do what’s responsible for their product, their customers, and their employees.
Clearly, that assumption isn’t remotely true, but they’d rather roll their eyes at anyone who doesn’t take it on faith than risk having their world view altered.
Well, if we’re talking Path of Exile live service style, it’s completely fine. The game is perfectly playable and enjoyable for free and wallet opens you cosmetics and some nice to have features (like bigger stash etc.), basically nothing gamebreaking. I played it quite a lot on a casual level, waiting for new Diablo (not necesarilly blizzard Diablo, just the essence of the original 2). It is fun and I played it mostly for free, when I decided to spend about AA level game of money to support the devs. Nithing forced me to do so, I just enjoyed the game and wanted to support the company. And I still think it’s a great game and am looking forward to sequel.
But there’s also another live service other than this one. Like that Diablo Immortal one. I haven’t played it myself (and won’t ever do it), but the drama around it was quite a big one. And no wonder it was! Holy hell, they’re squeezing those balls hard. Even if the game was all fun and games I wouldn’t touch it with its style of microtransactions, loot gambling and other bullshittery.
If studuos are working on this second style live service, then they should probably go bankrupt straight away.
Children, and adults who are basically working shit jobs and have little disposable income, but theyre generally likely to get hooked into a game that offers microtransactions of some kind.
Ok, so, we all know AAA studios are more or less led by extremely money hungry bullies who see games as a product to sell to consumers for the purposes of maximizing shareholder profit, and they know they have to mainly compete against other games, and movies and tv (netflix hulu fucking whatever).
Gamers also basically expect high quality graphics and the production value of basically a blockbuster movie, if you go by sales data.
Sure, other games with less astounding graohics and actually unique or novel gameplay exist, thats neat, they have teensy tiny draws, excepting the essentially totally unpredictable break out hit thats popular for maybe a month, maybe literally days.
So, we need huge studios for huge production values, and then the only way to possibly make profits on that is exploitative games as a service with microtransactions and season/battle passes.
Their brains are stuck in a loop state basically, and going by their logic, it makes sense from their position and with their motives and personalities.
Theyre following corpo logic basically perfectly.
You can say theyre the bad guys, and I can say go rewatch V for Vendetta and replay the part where V says ‘you only need look into a mirror’ multiple times.
How does this situation actually change?
Either, somehow, not one but a number of basically indie games somehow become huge successes with massive regular player counts, and most importantly they somehow have to draw people away from the mostly unoriginal schlock that is most AAA money printing games these days…
Or, basically, a significant number of big name studios/publishers need to basically just go entirely bankrupt.
Are either of these likely to happen?
Probably not, not soon, barring an extremely serious basically global economic downturn.
The fact that there is this much uniformity in strategy means that there will be sort of attritional damage done to the less successful, but that… might result in a sea change of market strategy to some other basically fad for AAA game studios… or it might result in even further buyouts and consolidation of once great IPs and studios.
Welcome to video game hell, nearly no one is truly innocent.
First off, dang thats a pretty good username, second:
sigh yep, youre right.
I am the only avid video gamer I knew who actually refused and refuses to buy anything ever again from Bethesda after FallOut 76.
I personally know a good deal of gamers who said theyd do the same… and actually did not, some even pre ordering Starfield.
Gamers are basically hilarious hypocrites from the standpoint of market research, public sentiment analysis and actual dollareedoos.
Which is why i would have been an actual idiot at this point to think that an actually significant number of gamers could actually successfully pull off a boycott as a means to influence the overall market conditions.
When you realize that games really don’t change as they get older, just the hype that dies down, then become a patient gamer and more often than not you’ll be better off.
Hah, Ive gone uh, full tilt, and actually am working on making a game myself that will hopefully /actually have meaningfully innovative and compelling gameplay/, and i dont plan on or seem to have any real need to fall into the kickstarter/early access trap.
From a developer standpoint, both those approaches mean deadlines and managing expectations, which is basically maddeningly stressful and soul crushing.
From a gamer perspective, more often than not that means throwing money at a promise that at best will not live up to the hyped experience you have generated with the fandom, and at worst is just a total bust, failure, or scam.
So yep, my plan is tinker away for a year or two until the fundamentals are technologically sound and the actual gameplay is unique and compelling.
Then, only then, would i maybe release a demo or in depth teasers or testing session footage.
Yes thats right. Testing. Remember when games used to actually be playtested, not just for bugs, but for actual gameplay experience?
Many of at least my favorite games and mods were hugely shaped by tester feedback that radically reworked certain game elements to solve unexpected gameplay problems, or to further an idea that the testers found fun or useful that tje devs didnt even realize was really possible in the world theyd constructed.
Anyway… woo video games, shit sucks mostly these days but there are some notable basically niche exceptions, and hopefully i can make something thats at least niche successful.
In the words of a person i truly do think is an actual genius of game design:
These things, they take time.
Time where no one has any real clue wtf youre actually doing, haha.
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