No, for me its the opposite, when I buy a game I’m more likely to actually play it because I want to get my money’s worth of enjoyment, while with a pirated game, there isn’t a need to play the game, even if I do have fun with it.
Same here, except it also applies to if a friend gifts me a game. I’m way more likely to play the game I bought because I have money that could be wasted, rather if it’s free, I have no obligation to ever touch it
I guess I’m talking about launching and trying the game, rather than finishing it. Like once I start playing, the chances I continue are mostly about the game itself, and probably more about my mood at the time than I’d like to admit. I’m talking about games languishing completely untouched. As someone that’s been collecting a steam library for 20 years, I’ve got well over 1000 games and I haven’t played even close to half of them. I play almost all of the games I pirate. I’ve only started doing that a lot in the last year or two, but even in that time I’ve bought a bunch of stuff I don’t play. The pirated ones just call to me stronger.
Personally I’m excited to see what the mod landscape is going to look like in a year. As with most Bethesda games, I couldn’t care much less about the game itself outside of that key feature.
I think I got it on my third attempt. Though I haven’t actually finished it yet! Only 2/3 in and then something shiny distracted me - I’ll pick it up again soon. People described it as a soulslike, so after Elden Ring clicked for me I decided I would try the funny bug game again. Glad I did!
Having all pins present, I wouldn’t be surprised if the drive still gets detected while bending a SATA cable back juuuuuust right so its connector makes contact with the pins.
I’ve used computers for years like that, also these card edge connectors are pretty standard and can be easily replaced by anyone who can do basic soldering.
Seconded. If OP lives anywhere near a city, there’s probably an electronics repair shop within reach that would solder on a new connector for less than the cost of a new SSD.
Dude, I remember people going OFF on Returnal not offering any saves and people having to keep their consoles in rest mode for days at an end because they wouldn’t want their runs to end. I kept arguing with people on rexxit that any respectable rogue-lite/-like has a save function - STS, Hades, Dead Cells - yet they still kept arguing that implenting saves would “ruin the vision of the game” and “make it too easy”.
Guess what Housemarque did: they added a save on exit option. You can now suspend your run and finish it whenever. Not having to potentially brick your console just because you can’t save mid-game sure is a boon lol. The game sure got a lot easier with this implemented. /s
STS does allow you to cheese the game with its save system, which is why most roguelikes also delete the save file after they load it, only saving the game when you need to put a bookmark in it to come back later.
It certainly helped me during my first Slay the Spire runs, when I’d often mess up the order of the cards (the most common being applying vulnerable AFTER doing all of my attacks).
It's a problem when cheating changes people's opinions on how fun the game is. If the game forces you to use a certain mechanic that you otherwise would have ignored, that often gives you a better appreciation for the game. In the case of a roguelike, if you can cheese the save system, you're no longer required to actually get good at the game systems and can instead keep reloading until the memorize the solution, which is the entire problem the genre is out to solve.
I mean, if you're knowingly turning on cheat codes in a game, you know you're deviating from the intended experience, but if you're doing something the software lets you do, that's something the designer is trying to tune to steer you toward having a better time. Often times you can take a dominant strategy and think less of the game for it being too easy or one-note, which can and does happen when you can exploit a save system like this. I got through the first Witcher game mostly by save scumming, and I didn't think particularly highly of it, but the sequels did a much better job of introducing me to the potions, oils, and monster hunting mechanics that would have made the game easier and more solvable without save scumming. Had I known for the first game what I knew of the sequels, I might have enjoyed the game more, but that first game especially didn't force me into learning those systems.
You’re viewing games as perfect and the designers’ vision as always correct. That’s not always true. Take XCom 2. Many people may tell you that ironman mode (prevents save scumming) is the only real way to play but the game is buggy as hell. Not only do things not always work right sometimes the game just crashes. A buddy of mine has lost multiple save files because of it. The game doesn’t force you to use ironman mode so it’s not a counterargument to what you’re saying but it is illustrative of the point I’m making about games not being perfect.
Also, why do you view save scumming as the dominant strategy? In reality, many difficult and unforgiving games all but force players to use specific strategies to win. Everything you’re saying about gamers avoiding fun choices for optimum ones is not unique to save scumming. Many games already force players to do this and things like save scumming can actually allow players to try different builds that are less optimal.
It’s like someone saying the only true way to enjoy a book is by physically reading a physical copy and that audiobooks are more optimal and therefore less fun. No. Different people just want different things.
Many of the B side challenges in Celeste I played with the 90% speed accessibility option. Trying for 30 minutes to try and get a single damn strawberry was just too much for me. I still had a blast playing it.
I'm neither assuming that a game is perfect or that the designer's vision is always correct, but the designer is intending for you to experience a game a certain way, and it's often most fun that way. If certain strategies are dominant such that they invalidate large portions of the game that are there, it usually results in that game being boring. Your mileage may vary, of course, but that's how these things tend to go. The Witcher is a much more interesting game for me when you utilize potions, oils, and monster manuals, and I found the combat to be quite boring when I didn't know how to interact with those systems and instead just reloaded saves for better dice rolls. By forcing you to play a certain way, like by omitting certain save systems, they're making sure you play the way they intended, and if the game is as good as they hoped to have made it, it will result in the most people having the best time.
Here's another example. Batman: Arkham combat is an amazing replication of what Batman is in video game form. It's one man taking on dozens of others, usually more lethally armed than he is, with some athleticism and a bunch of gadgets. You're incentivized via the scoring/XP system to never button mash, use every move in your arsenal at least once, never get hit, and to take out every enemy in the room in a single flowing combo. However, it didn't steer most players into playing that way very effectively (at least on normal difficulty), and many leave the combat system disappointed that they can beat it just by attacking with X and countering with Y.
Fuck that. I’m sending this to everyone I know. Gamer or not. Common sense alone demands a signature.
Edit: This far 2 gamers finally put their signatures on it and 4 non gamers went with it too. So with me we’re at 7 signatures.
I did my part. But I think it won’t be enough. Yes, after Ross spoke up every content creator and their grandparents started shitting in Pirates mouth and is advertising the petition like crazy. But sadly these kind of things are a bit circle jerky and will be watched by the same people.
Starfield. It’s the definition of a “mixed” rating on Steam. It’s not bad, but it’s not good either. You play it for an hour and your reward is that an hour has passed.
After running through the main story once, I modded it to where you cannot buy any natural resources - they must be harvested in person and/or setup a base and and ship all natural resources to a central storage planet. This essentially turned it into a spreadsheet-logistics game which gave me a a second, much more enjoyable playthrough. But I agree - absolutely medium-tier game.
Started playing the first game day one but stopped for several years. Picked up 2 when I found out it was ftp right after beyond light came out and bought all the dlcs available until after lightfall. I was at work and a customer asked what games I play. Said D2 and someone else said “why would you do that to yourself?” I thought hard about that for awhile and realized all I do is grind and don’t really have that much fun with it. It was more like a second job. And lightfall was a garbage dlc. That was also a major contributer to me quitting.
My biggest issue with Destiny 2 is that I paid $60 for it and then it soon went free to play and I had absolutely nothing to show for that $60 I paid.
Edit: oh yeah and that original $60 campaign was removed from the game by the time I went back to check out what was new. There was straight up less content available for me after not playing for a year. I felt so ripped off that I wrote the game off.
I was excited to start again right as beyond light dropped, but it was confusing as hell as a new player because they sunset the starting campaign. Weird to have to research how to play a game.
Even TF2 gave special cosmetics and stuff to existing players when it went F2P ages ago. It’s a standard practice at this point. I sunk 12k hours into D2 until I quit it for good this past fall, and looking back I swear I just notice more and more red flags like this that I hadn’t thought too much about.
I started with Shadowkeep and I got sucked in hard for 5 years. The first year or two I heard these sorts of negative comments here and there, mostly from long-term players, but didn’t think much of it.
Fast forward to this past year, and Revenant is what made me say fuck it and drop the game entirely. I was already sick of the state of the game, powercreep to hell and back, pvp in the dumpster, nonexistent loot, etc etc. But jesus that season was eye-opening. I uninstalled a day after Tomb of Elders launched.
I was also a major completionist - near max triumph score, never missed a day 1 raid from DSC onwards til unfortunate scheduling fucked our SE run, every GM soloed to that point, shit like that. Missing that one single season and a couple shitty little time-limited events was enough to feel like I’d fallen behind, and that was it. Booted up the game once since to check out Heresy, activity was the same shit as always, loot was dogshit, so I checked out right away.
And that’s just the gameplay gripes. Bungie as a studio is toxic as fuck in so many ways and I can never in good conscience support them again.
It took a few years but I finally understand what people were telling me way back when I started.
It’s fun because you never know what will happen. It’s not totally random, the more skilled players will tend to win more often than not, just not every time. Also there are other game modes than just racing. Back when me and my friends played on SNES and N64, it was almost always battle mode.
Yup. In a regular racing game, if one person knows how to play, they’re going to wreck everyone else, and that’s not fun. Mario Kart is more accessible, and the items, it adds an extra influence element to the game.
I don’t. If I played a game and then forgot about it, then i get to play it again at a different stage in life. It’s a whole new experience! Why would I want to miss out on that?
There is nothing to miss out on by just keeping a list of which games you have played and when. It’s just an extra step after finishing playing a game.
Does steam recording the last launch date of a game ruin your next experience with a game for you ?
Reading that reddit comment section was depressing. Seeing people making excuses and saying just dont buy them. Redditors are way above the general player base in terms of awareness. Became they can actually have long form structured discussion about the state of the game. Even then the response is still “this sucks and its kind of greedy”.
Seeing the things people put up with is blackpilling. It actually spreads over the whole industry. I wish I hated technology and gaming so I wouldn’t care watching it be farmed by corporations.
Tbh this is also the attitude of cod players who stuck around after the BO6 release. Warzone especially took a huge step backwards. 20 Hz server-side updates for a battle royale game is pretty sad
That was not my attitude. Been sticking with the game since the first beta and have only recently been getting bummed by the game. My attitude was: If I’m going to spend money on the digital deluxe edition of the game, I’m sure as hell going to get my money’s worth.
Was having fun getting Dark Matter and have it on all the weapons minus this brand new season. But see my post in here that I made about the game becoming less fun.
My attitude was: If I’m going to spend money on the digital deluxe edition of the game, I’m sure as hell going to get my money’s worth.
By admitting to the sunk cost fallacy, you’ve really only proven my point. You’re gonna find ways to defend the game more than you should, unconsciously or not.
I know it’s hard, but in this current era of live service games recording metrics beyond just purchased copies of the game, you should vote with your play time, regardless of how much you’ve already put into the game.
But I’m not proving your point. Nowhere have I defended the game.
I’m saying that I made my bed, so I’m lying in it. The game was an investment I made and so I was getting my money’s worth. It was a mental decision I made before buying the game.
It helped that I like Call of Duty and so enjoyed myself for a good while, despite Black Op 6 being a total mess that’s hemorrhaging casual players and now hardcore players because they’ve shat the bed with Black Ops 6 one too many times (they, being Activi$ion and Treyarch).
Though I like Call of Duty, I’m not a fanboy who will defend the game. I’m a simple 9-5er casual player who turns the game on, has a bit of fun working to a camo goal, then turns the game off when I can’t take being smoked by the supposed “skill” based matchmaking anymore.
I’m trying to show you that it’s way more nuanced than you’re making it out to be.
In regards to the sunk cost “fallacy,” it was not a fallacy when I first made my decision to purchase the game. I’m only recently at a fork in the road with this game due to its problems making it less and less fun for me. I mentioned earlier that I played the first beta. Don’t you think I would’ve not purchased the game if I hadn’t had fun then?
I have no remorse for my purchase of the game whatsoever. Many hours of entertainment have been had. However, it will be an actual sunk cost fallacy for my purchase of season 4 Blackcell if I’m not enjoying it and feel the need to continue. I’m currently at that fork in the road right now and haven’t decided whether to put the game down or not. Most likely will though if I can’t find a way to make it fun. If I decided to anyway, then it would be the sunk cost fallacy. Not for Black Ops 6 as a whole, but for Season 4 Blackcell.
Also, if you wish to throw fallacies around, I must call you out on the cherry picking fallacy. The part you quoted had neatly been cushioned above it and below it with reasoning as to why my purchase decision wasn’t an example of the sunken cost fallacy, yet you seemed to have ignored the whole context and just plucked that part of my post out in order to what, feel like a smug debater or something? Lol.
It has nothing to do with reddit and has been going on since the days of frigging usenet.
When someone likes something, they find ways to make an exception. The biggest example being The DRM Wars where EVERYONE was suddenly an active duty military person stationed in an airgap in The Middle East and could not connect to any server to authenticate their game (but had no problem spending hours arguing on message boards). Then Valve say you need to use something called “Steam” to play Half-Life 2 and suddenly everyone is ready to say that Steam is different and not actually DRM even though the model wasn’t that different than how Stardock or even frigging Gamespy were doing stuff.
Everyone hated microtransactions and that is TOTALLY the only reason people were angry at the Star Wars game that came out within a month or two of TLJ. Then Genshin Impact came out and suddenly everyone wanted to make it abundantly clear that that was okay because, yes, it is a gacha game but it is totally a fair one where you can do everything without ever spending any money if you just grind endlessly and use multiple accounts to hoard day limited currencies.
But also? People hated DLC way back when it was something you downloaded from a BBS after mailing the developers a physical check. But when it was a game people liked (Star Crusader with mutha fugging Roman Alexander!!!), it was suddenly okay.
Which is to say: Things have been real shit for coming on 40 years of gaming. And yet, by and large, video games keep getting better (not so much the games industry for the people who make games).
Katamari Damacy. It has a reputation for being silly Japanese nonsense, but the gameplay is brilliant, the graphics are timeless, the soundtrack is incredible, and it has some surprising thematic depth.
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