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bermuda, (edited ) do gaming w What game mechanics do you love and hate?

I hate when games try to make you feel like you have player agency when it’s really just a cutscene and you’re pressing a button. Whether it’s a QTE or “Press F to Pay Respects.” Recently RDR2 was a huge offender of this, featuring probably half a dozen cutscenes where all you do is press W or up on the controller to walk forward or whatever you’re doing. Like there’s one where it’s probably 5 minutes of walking forward interspersed with dialogue. I understand why the developers made you walk that far. It adds to the tension and it adds to the feeling of despair that the character is currently going through. But I think it would’ve been fine if it was just a regular cutscene instead of “Press W to walk” and if you let go you stop walking, meaning you can’t even take a break.

edit: also I dislike stealth games with unrealistic “alert” systems. In a good example like Metal gear solid v, you get a solid 5 to 10 seconds if a guard is outside hearing / sight range of other guards, so even if you’re spotted you’re still fine as long as you take them out quickly and silently. And even if you dont take him out quickly, he’ll still only be able to alert people nearby or he needs to take some time to alert on the radio. On the other hand, in cyberpunk 2077 if just one guard saw you for even a fraction of a second, the entire base would be alerted. I guess lore-wise it makes sense, but from a gameplay perspective it was the least fun I had in that game. Trying to stealth my way through an entire place only for the whole thing to come crashing down because somebody saw my shoulder from 15 meters away. It came to a point where I was just going in guns blazing because stealth just wasn’t worth it.

Spider-man from 2018 was also like this. The enemy hideouts or whatever were based very heavily around the game’s stealth mechanics, but if just 1 guard became alerted, everybody would become alerted and it would start its stupid wave system. The game heavily encouraged you to take out guards silently so it didn’t send in wave after wave of them, but it was just so incredibly punishing to be silent in that game.

BruceTwarzen,

Yeah it makes me feel like a dumbass.
I recently bought marvels midnight suns because it was on sale, i didn't even onow it was a card game. I usually don't really play card games. The game is fine, actually i kinda like it. But the things i don't like are the things when you don't play the card game. You just awkwardly walk around in 3rd person. After every fight it's the same. You walk to a guy, go to bed, skip 3 cutscenes, walk to the forge, walk to the upgrade thing, walk to whoever you have to talk. Probably 1/3 of the game is walking the same path every ingame day.

Make an option to skip all of that. Make it a drop down menu or something.

gus,
@gus@kbin.social avatar

Ehh I disagree with using RDR2 as an example, but I think QTEs in general are probably my least favorite game mechanic. I actually quite like walking around in RDR2 during the missions. A huge aspect of the game is just immersing yourself in the map/world and listening to the NPCs. I can see it getting old during replays but for me it's a hell of a lot better than watching a cutscene and being prompted to hit a button. I vividly remember fishing with Dutch and Josea for at least a half hour just listening to them chat with Arthur

scrubbles,
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Agree with you, I remember where the person is talking about, press x to walk on guarma, which did drag on, but they were shipwrecked and he didn’t know what was happening yet. Rdr gets exceptions to me because it’s so cinematic, to me the game is realistic, but so much that you aren’t playing a game, you’re watching a movie.

bermuda,

My issue is less that it drags on and more that it’s basically barely even gameplay. You’re pressing a button for minutes on end, then letting go when they talk, then pressing again when they walk again. It’s boring. For a game as cinematic as RDR2 you’d think they wouldn’t be afraid to just make it a cutscene. If they wanted gameplay then at least let me walk around a bit.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Right but it’s a story, it doesn’t all have to be rootin tootin cowboy shooting, the storytelling is a major part of it. It helps the player really feel like theyre expercing Arthur. I get what you’re saying, but they definitely purposefully chose these devices from a storytelling perspective.

bermuda,

Yes and I’m saying the made a bad decision, no matter how purposeful it is. I find your reasoning to be really flawed here. Just because they chose to tell the story that way doesn’t mean I can’t complain about it.

CatZoomies, do games w Who's your favorite female protagonist in a video game? (Add pic of character in response)
@CatZoomies@lemmy.world avatar

Some of my favorites have already been mentioned.

Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice by Ninja Theory

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e5fe610c-46e8-45ce-b723-fe28697f1449.jpeg

This lady is a standout from recent games I played in the past several years. Senua is an incredible character, complex, driven, and felt very human. I and probably a million other gamers connected with her deeply. Won’t say any more to avoid spoilers, but she was in one of the greatest games I ever played. Her actress, Melina Juergens, was perfect for the role in many ways (which I won’t say why here to avoid spoilers for those who haven’t played this game). Haven’t played the sequel yet, but I remember Melina won an award at the recent Game Awards for her performance in Senua’s Saga: Hellblade II.

0li0li,

You beat me to it!! She wins in my book.

CatZoomies,
@CatZoomies@lemmy.world avatar

She’s an absolute badass. I cheered her on, suffered with her, and cried when I finished the game. I felt every emotion she had during the game, because I felt like I was on the journey with her by her side while she faced her trials. Beautiful and unforgettable experience.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Great pick, she’s up there for me too. I also only played the first one but thought it was an amazing experience.

TheFeatureCreature, do games w Who's your favorite female protagonist in a video game? (Add pic of character in response)
@TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca avatar

Honestly? Aloy from the Horizon games. She’s maybe not the most rounded character, but she is a very strong, determined, stubborn, and intelligent person. She knows what she wants and will stop at nothing to get it. I think it also helps that the games don’t really have many choices or multiple endings, which I think was a good design choice. The story belongs to Aloy, not the player.

Also she’s not a protag (sorta, you can play as her) but I would like to give a shoutout to Lae’zel from BG3. I suspect a lot of players haven’t explored her character questline much because of how prickly she is at the beginning, but her character development is extensive and, at times, heart-wrenching. A story of someone getting the entire fabric of their life and soul torn out from under them.

Goodeye8,

My issue with Aloy is that she was such a Mary Sue in the first game. I can give some benefit of doubt to her on the account of the spoilers, but my god literally the only time she failed was at the beginning of the game during the trial and even then it was more a force majeure than anything she did wrong. She could thrust herself into any situation and come out on top with nothing dragging her down.

I’m found her more relatable in the second game because in the second get we at least get some hints of her mission being a burden on her and when she is caught off guard by a superior opponent she doesn’t magically beat them. But even in the second game she doesn’t have a lot of depth. There’s so much more depth Aloy could have but the writers never gave her the depth she deserves. And I don’t want people to think I’m dunking on Aloy, I think she could be a very interesting character if she had been properly fleshed out as a person. It’s an issue all Horizon series characters suffer, they all lack depth. Some of them are flatter than the Bonneville Salt Flats.

And I completely agree with Lae’zel. She’s my favorite characters from the BG3 party of character. She’s literally how you described Aloy: determined, stubborn and intelligent. If we ignore the zealotry (which stems from her upbringing) Lae’zel is very similar to Aloy because she thinks she exists solely for the sake of her mission, she is indominably determined to fulfill her mission and she will step on anyone who gets between her and her mission. I find it pretty weird how Aloy is almost universally liked while Lae’zel is one of the least liked companions. I guess it’s the difference of seeing the world through the eyes of the person vs seeing the person as they are within the world.

jjjalljs,

None of the guys at my old job liked lae’zel. I think because she’s kind of mean. I’m like that’s what I’m here for. I don’t want some pushover passive aggression like shadow heart, and karlach is fine I guess, but lae’zel making people lick her boots is the shit. I’m not even into being dominated but I do like women with agency.

rumschlumpel,

TBH I don’t even hate that part of her, but couple that with her people’s fucked up society that she wholeheartedly endorses until a certain part of her personal quest …

I’d probably have been more willing to explore her quest if I actually liked that part of her. Didn’t quite click for me.

mrgoosmoos, do games w Xbox consoles are now getting a fullscreen Xbox Game Pass Ultimate ad at boot, just a day after a 50% price hike was announced

lmfao ads on boot on a console you bought?

that’s so fucked. glad I’m not getting back into console gaming

winkerjadams,

Oh boy wait until I tell you about windows 11™ and all its amazing features!

007ace,
@007ace@lemmy.ca avatar

Running SteamOS on my living room gaming PC. There are more options than windows 11.

dom,

I also just installed pop os on my 2021 laptop that was struggling with windows 11. It breathed new life into it. The computer is now as snappy as when I first got it

mrgoosmoos,

I’m gonna have to “upgrade” at work soon and it’s going to suck

I got a new computer with win11 a year or so ago. I made them buy me a win10 license because I couldn’t do my job anymore. fucking file explorer doesn’t even work on win11. astounding

greenbelt,

Fuck the closed console. Do not throw all the computational power away.

Kolanaki, do games w Xbox consoles are now getting a fullscreen Xbox Game Pass Ultimate ad at boot, just a day after a 50% price hike was announced
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Why not just have a button that says “give us more money, you fat piece of shit?”

quackerjo,

That’s currently in QA as we speak… Slated to go live Q1 2026.

proton_lynx,

Microsoft? QA? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

yesman, do games w Games Where Nothing Happens (SPOILERS for various game plots)

Every Zelda game is a sisyphean adventure where you never really defeat the evil or restore Hyrule, you just reset the board for the next evil apocalypse.

JackbyDev,

Except there are consequences for failure. See the timeline split stuff.

UltraMagnus,

The newer zelda games are interesting since you can see how the world has changed between botw and totk, but on the macro scale you’re definitely right. Most zelda games have formula of “all is well, bad guy appears to threaten realm, link saves the day, back to normal”. BOTW was an interesting way to change that formula - hyrule isn’t restored after you beat ganon, but things change with new settlements being formed and so on in totk

Zwrt, do games w Games Where Nothing Happens (SPOILERS for various game plots)

The stanley parable, in a way.

the end is never the end is never the end is never

Gaxsun,

the end is never the end is never the end is never

P1nkman,

I did LSD and played through the Deluxe Edition - holy fuck, I had fun!!!

Hadriscus,

oh, nice. I like getting high and playing surprising games, it usually makes the experience even more pleasant. But I never did LSD, and I’m not sure I could handle it. How does it affect playing something like Stanley Parable ?

P1nkman,

Well, it was just funny. It kind of fucked with my brain, but i think i managed to get through the entire game in about 6 hours. I would not play Last if Us, Resident Evil etc, but I also once had a blast in RDR2 on LSD! It was after I had completed the game.

Would love to try something similar to Stanley Parable - I’m looking at Don’t Press The Button! for my next trip in October.

Hadriscus,

I can understand having a good time in RDR2, that game can be lovely and atmospheric

prole,

Seems like a recipe for an existential crisis

catalyst,
@catalyst@lemmy.world avatar

Stanley walked through the red. door.

owenfromcanada, do games w Is there a alternative platform to roblox for players and gamedevs?
Valmond,

Godot is really good, but it doesn’t distribute your games, right?

dormedas,

No. Distribution is left to the developer.

But the silver lining is that you’re outside of a walled garden and outside of a company’s control.

Valmond,

Yeah but I don’t think anyone of us are going so big that’d be a hassle :-) and it could just be opt in too…

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot, do games w Stop Killing Games reaches its goal of 1.4M signatures, covering the risk of valid signatures going under 1M

Thanks, PirateSoftware!

pleasestopasking, do gaming w What are signs that the game devs aren't gamers themselves?

When you can’t tap a button to fill the text dialogue, and have to wait for each letter to individually populate for 15 speech bubbles in a row.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I just played through Pentiment and even on the fastest speed dialogues were painfully slow. It wouldn’t fix all the other pacing issues, but the text popping up instantly would be a huge improvement.

Maestro,

I loved that game and I love the setting and art, but it's soooo much reading. And I love reading, I really do! But it began to wear me down near the end.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I have very mixed feelings about it. I also adored the art and setting, and I really appreciate the historical research that has gone into making it. And there were some well written characters in there.

But man, the game is sloooooow. The last act in particular was like pulling teeth. Reading is fine when what you’re reading about is interesting. There were so many banal, shallow and uninteresting conversations in there that really tested my patience.

saigot,

or even worse when you have to wait for the voiced dialogue to finish before it lets you continue.

SEND_BUTTPLUG_PICS,

I like that BG3 let’s you skip the voice dialogue but I wish there was an option to speed up the voice acting because I really love the voice acting and the story is great but I find myself spacing out during long cutscenes. I don’t want to skip them I just want them to speak quickly!

brsrklf,

I’ve been replaying Dragon Quest Builders 2. The game isn’t voiced, most of dialogues are classic RPG text boxes that you can speed up and skip, BUT. There are special lines of dialogue that are “voices” in a character’s head.

They are unskippable, and they’re like a dozen words each that stay on screen for about 20 seconds or more. Some of those dialogues have about 6-7 of those. It’s unbearable, and it’s genuinely the worst part of starting a game again. Hell, it was the worst part of doing it the first time, too.

Somehow English localisation created this, in Japanese the messages go a lot faster. Though even those couldn’t be skipped, because… fuck you that’s why.

BroBot9000, do games w Old gamers don't understand what mobile gaming has become
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

Games as a service is a scam and goes hand in hand with gambling and addictive mechanics used to keep people hooked. It’s absolutely toxic.

Nintendo is a corporate shithole but at least they make some sort of semblance of non abusive games.

“Portable gaming” is always welcome but the business model of phone games is fucking disgusting.

atomicpoet,

Then don’t play games-as-a-service on mobile. Plenty of great mobile games you can buy outright, no strings attached.

Worried about ownership? Back up the APK files—problem solved.

You don’t have to swallow every business model you hate. Choice is still on your side.

BroBot9000,
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t. You are exposing children to those exact mechanics and normalizing that behaviour. Without further thought in the future they will go for increasingly scammy shit tactics.

atomicpoet,

My kid knows full well what is allowable and what is not. She has never spent money on micro-transactions.

leave_it_blank,

Seriously, you played behind your mom’s back. As did I and everyone else. Be careful, talk to her about the shitty tactics. She has to be aware of them, spot them, and know how they work to be able to avoid them. The hardest part will be for her to actually believe it. Those life service shit uses the most disgusting psychological tricks.

Or she will spent all her money behind your back someday.

We all had our tricks, and children will always be cleverer than their parents.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

We all know that decent games exist, somewhere. But the amount of effort it would take to wade through all the shovelware and gacha to try to find an even halfway passable game on Google Play simply isn't worth my time.

And with the mobile market being what it is, it arguably isn't worth it for developers to try and sell any serious game as mobile-first, because it's so difficult for those types of games to succeed when mobile gamers want gacha and those that don't simply aren't playing on mobile. If it's truly worth my time, it should be ported to other platforms.

atomicpoet,

Honest question: how do you find “decent” games elsewhere?

Because all storefronts on PC and console suck when it comes to discoverability.

Do you just accept what marketers and “gamers” tell you about value?

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Word of mouth is certainly a large part of it, yes. People talk about successful games. One way or another, the games I like make it onto my radar when I see buzz about them.

But what are the most successful games on mobile? What are the games mobile gamers talk about? Gacha. It's all gacha. Whatever else is out there, nobody's talking about it and I'm never going to see it. Nor do I have any reason to go searching through a toxic cesspit in the hopes that maybe I'll eventually find something, when it is far easier to look elsewhere, on platforms that haven't been thoroughly corrupted by the race to the bottom.

But again, the real takeaway I want to stress is that the market has been this way for long enough that both gamers and developers know the well is poisoned, and it will never be unpoisoned. The fact that mobile has become dominated by gacha has reinforced itself - everyone not interested in gacha has left the platform, and mobile developers will keep selling more gacha because that's what the remaining audience wants. They even know that the average mobile gamer won't spend money on a more ethical business model.

I know that developers know that I know that this is what mobile is. The way I see it, mobile itself has become a red flag. If a game is trying to be more than gacha trash, well why don't the developers have the sense to put it on other platforms where non-gacha gamers are? If not, they're shooting themselves in the foot and I have no pity.

atomicpoet,

Here’s where you and I differ: I don’t trust word of mouth. I don’t trust canons. I don’t trust marketing. And frankly, I don’t trust the so-called “gamers” who repeat the same tired narratives.

Instead, I dive deep—into the bowels of app stores, into archive.org, anywhere I can find games no one else has played or talked about. Then I judge for myself whether they’re worth a damn.

That’s how I’ve uncovered hidden gems, and why I know most of what passes for “good taste” is just groupthink dressed up as expertise.

The only people with real taste? The ones willing to seek things out and form their own opinions. Everything else is just noise.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

So what, you just buy games at random and hope maybe you landed on something good? Without anything that would make for an informed purchase? Sounds like a horribly inefficient way of running headfirst into Sturgeon's Law.

atomicpoet,

Sometimes I do buy games on a whim.

But usually, I’m a deal hunter—I scour for discounts, read descriptions carefully, study screenshots, and watch gameplay footage. If it grabs my interest, I pull the trigger.

Surprisingly, most of the games that catch my eye turn out to be pretty good.

You should give it a shot. Ignore the hype, forget word of mouth and influencers. Dive into something completely new and different—you might just be pleasantly surprised.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

I do. But to me, step one of filtering out Sturgeon's Law is looking in the right place - platforms that are not overflowing with so much poison that I already know I'm unlikely to ever find what I want.

11111one11111, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

Every game that ever gets released when you check gaming forums within the first month of a game’s release lol /s

Im joking. I get the sentiment that a finished product should be fully complete and inspected by a QA team before release. But still, the fuckin extreme hatred ill see for the game and its studio, regardless of the company’s history, is soooooo fuckin wild. And almost everytime when I get to the point of buying the game, ill check the steam reviews and it’ll be mostly positive after like one patch release.

toynbee,

I’ve been curious about this recently after seeing all the reviews for MindsEye. I’d never heard of it until a few days ago, yet all the reviewers I pay attention to are talking about how it’s the worst game ever, while the footage they show makes it look fine. I haven’t played it, so I can’t disagree with them, but the vitriol for something that appears to be completely average is surprising.

Phelpssan, do games w What game has the best tutorial, in your opinion?
@Phelpssan@lemmy.world avatar

There’s a lot of videos and articles like this one discussing how Stage 1-1 of Super Mario Bros for the NES is a cleverly designed tutorial for the core game mechanics.

garretble,
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, this is still the GOAT 🐐.

Justdaveisfine, do games w Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Now Promotes Microtransactions When You Swap Weapons

This is going to become the new AAA normal, isn’t it.

misterdoctor,

If people keep playing these games, yes

WhatsTheHoldup,

That’s why I only play AAAA games

slaneesh_is_right,

Eh, i’m waiting for AAAAA games.

Voroxpete, do games w Catchiest video game song?

This was a triumph…

Aurenkin,

I’m making a note here, huge success…

yamper,

my hot take is that even though portal is a masterpiece this song is so cringe because i associate it with unfunny “the narwhal bacons at midnight” type redditors

swordgeek,

You need to get out more.

The song is a masterpiece on its own.

yamper,

the counterpoint to me not liking a song from a Video Game because it of its association with Internet Culture has to be something other than “get out more”

fossphi,

No, it’s valid because the reason you claim for it to be bad in itself is kinda cringe

Elevator7009, (edited )

I feel like the association of Portal with that era and that type of person, even though I think most of them probably became different people with age, even though I was practically one of them, makes the song a little harder to enjoy. I am aware of Ellen McLain’s (GLaDOS voice actress) opera creds and think that’s super cool though.

Sorry to the composer, it is not your fault. Similarly, I think maybe the same thing happened with Undertale. I think I played before the fandom got a bad reputation, so it and its songs are not quite tainted in my mind, in fact I’m a big fan of the game’s use of leitmotifs (am I using the word right?) and really enjoy its music, but if I came in after I saw the fandom, I might like the work less through no fault of the composer.

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