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Eyck_of_denesle, do games w Overwatch 2 slaps

9 downvotes for what lol

FozzyOsbourne,

Lots of people just hate it (because blizzard or microtransactions or whatever) and can’t understand that people like different things. Ignore the numbers, you got some decent discussion!

Yermaw, do games w Overwatch 2 slaps

I really wish there were custom games where they just play like quick play. I do believe its one of the best games out if not for the players. You either meet Sweaty Eddie who’s on the mic telling you to kill yourself because he thinks youre not winning hard enough, or the guy who thinks the game is to stand there and spam “hello” and the dance emote at the enemy.

I very very rarely get a game where people are just playing the game and enjoying themselves.

rigatti,
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You wish there were queues for the custom games like there is for quick play? Trying to understand your comment here.

Yermaw,

Like when you look at the list of custom games, instead of just being weird and wonderful game modes and “chill no kill VC 18+” there was also “regular overwatch being played by regular people”

Eyck_of_denesle,

Never faced this problem because I play i south east asian servers. No one ever comms. Which makes ot a little boring for me as I come from Valorant where players talk a lot about strategy compared to ow2. But I’m getting used to it.

Aielman15, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #21
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Skyscrapers at night are always a sight, but they especially shine in pixel art! There’s something weirdly retro-futuristic in those pictures.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Can we appreciate how horny everyone is for Mario in TTYD?

I feel like this is entirely a localizer-added thing, and the original Japanese version was very different. I could be wrong of course, but this is just my gut feeling considering the time TYD released (and honestly it isn’t too much better nowadays).

Now, people can argue whether drastic changes like that are good or bad (I would say it is a massive “it depends”), but personally I would really prefer localizers stick to something as accurate to the original as possible while still being understandable in the target culture, and then include an altered or changed version as an option.

Like being able to choose between the ADV or Netflix dub for Evangelion.

I don’t mind if someone wants to add their own spin or whatever, as long as that doesn’t become the singular defined version for an entire region as is all too common. The original creators had a vision, and I want to see that vision, not the one a localizer is adding on that the original creators didn’t have.

For example, in a culture that doesnt have bread cakes, but they do have rice cakes, I would want a localizer to say characters ate “a food similar to rice cakes” or “an exotic food.” As an absolute last resort “a rice cake” is okay, but certainly not “the characters ate a big feast of pork and jelly donoughts.”

hellerphant,

I never played the Japanese version, but I live in Japan and I have worked with various game localization companies. It’s a pretty fine line on how they handle these kinds of translations, and it is often the developers who give the direction.

A good localization firm will take the original intent, and then culturalize it for the target market to make sure it has the same intended “vibe” rather than an actual 1:1 translation. The first company I worked at here did the localization for Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice. They were using a lot of old Japanese in that, and they specifically DID want us to get as close to 1:1 as possible, while ensuring that the intent was still very clear. Another game that I cannot say was more free saying “please make sure that the jokes land with the US”, and quite a bit of the actual dialog was re-written, but once again, to match the vibe and intent that the developer was searching.

Each project is different. Each player is different. You aren’t wrong for your wants here, but developers aren’t wrong for trying to make something be more culturally appropriate for their target market, often which will sell more copies than their local market.

RightHandOfIkaros,

Yeah, that’s kinda what I mean. I think we agree. It’s just that recently there has been more attention on more… questionable… changes that localizers have been making to entertainment media, some I agree with and some I don’t.

In the 80s and 90s, it was common for overseas versions to change names to be more Western sounding. Personally, I don’t mind this kind of change. It usually doesn’t effect the overall story much, but sometimes a character might have an exotic sounding name in the Japanese version, I would hope that they also have a similarly exotic sounding name. However, it was also common for the entire story to be altered pretty drastically, even with the entertainment itself being chopped up into something entirely different. Which I don’t appreciate. I want the foreign media because it is different and from a different culture, changing it to match my own culture defeats the point of me wanting to engage with it.

Sometimes though, entire conversations are completely removed or changed entirely from their original versions. I mean, completely different, the difference between a character saying “I love you” and “You will always be my dearest friend.” I believe the Fire Emblem series (which I haven’t played very much so I have only minimal experience with) has had a few of these kinds of changes. In those cases, I believe that is a malicious change the developers may not have known about or may not have fully understood when they approved or signed off on the localization. Or the localization agency may have either thought they had more creative license than they actually had or deceived the original creators to push their own version instead.

Jokes are a bit different IMO, since humor is pretty different between cultures. Jokes in entertainment often rely on an understanding of the local pop-culture, so naturally jokes or geographical/historical references may need to change. It is understandable in those cases.

absquatulate, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #21

I was worried Subnautica 2 would be just a sloppy cashgrab, but seeing that dev-vlog with the awkward devs describing their work actually gave me hope that they’re actually putting some soul in this game.

Feddinat0r, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #21

As always i really like to read your posts.

You dont have to apologize, you shouldnt even feel the need to apologize.

Get well soon

nutbutter, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #21

Although, I’m all in for more and more FOSS programs, but why is there a need to create a new PS2 emulator, when PCSX2 is almost perfect?

mysticpickle,

Might be a passion or learning project they felt like sharing. Who knows? Either way there’s always room for improvement and more options is good!

BootyEnthusiast, do games w Can we appreciate how horny everyone is for Mario in TTYD?

I want to >!fuck!< that mouse

simple, do games w Overwatch 2 slaps

OW2 got way better in the past year that I'd say it's a good f2p game, it deserved all the bashing on launch but once they went back on locking heroes and actually started adding new content it's worth a play. Lemmy hates live service though so nobody is going to let you say it out loud without getting mass downvoted.

Eyck_of_denesle,

Yea I noticed. I’m young so even if I want to play co op games, my friends won’t join cause you just like instant stress relief fighting games ig.

SalamenceFury, do games w Can we appreciate how horny everyone is for Mario in TTYD?
@SalamenceFury@lemmy.world avatar

God damn that rat wants the pipe huh.

bulwark, do gaming w One more time!

AV8s are pretty old. The US retired them in the early 2000s. NATOPs manuals explain how to fly the plane, like what button controls what. I’ve never been on the war thunder forums, but whatever argument that triggered this upload was probably over something really dumb. Like what button controls the windshield wipers or something.

kungen,

IIRC it was basically “the Harrier behaves too fat”, not as much maneuverability as in reality.

ShinkanTrain, do gaming w Honestly, it confused me at like 20

The only time a quick-time event was ever good is when God of War 3 made you press those

buycurious,

Poseidon in shambles

Rose, do games w Epic Games Unreal Fest News

People love to bash Epic and list all the (often redundant) things Steam is ahead in, but nobody mentions the ways in which Epic is ahead. Something as simple as being able to chat with your friends is no longer a feature of the mobile Steam client, but if Epic sticks to the roadmap, their app will allow that. It also makes me think of how despite so many years of existence, Steam still doesn’t allow to add game editions to your wishlist, while Epic has allowed that from the start. It was also the first to introduce a custom value field for downloads throttling, before Steam followed suit.

Poopfeast420,
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Wishlisting specific Game Editions would be nice, but how are you comparing nice-to-have features like that or custom download limits to stuff like Pre-Loading, Gifting, Bundles, etc.

For me, a separate Chat app for Steam is also a complete non-issue. I can’t really think of anything, that would improve, if it was integrated in the normal Steam app. Separate download and one initial login less? You can launch the Chat app from the Steam app itself, so you don’t even save that single extra tap to launch it, and for the user it’s basically the same as an integrated chat.

Rose,

The OP says global preloading and gifting are going live soon. Bundles are also on the roadmap. At the end of the day though, what’s the main benefit of a bundle? It’s the discount, right? I’m not sure the discounts offered via bundles on Steam are an overall better deal compared to Epic offering cashback of 5% on everything, sometimes increased to 20% (like now). For some countries, Epic also offers significantly better base prices compared to Steam. It still supports the Turkish and Argentinian currencies and presumably has specific price guidelines for those as well, compared to Steam having removed those options. I also remember Epic talking about supporting more regional currencies compared to Steam. From looking at the documentation now, it’s 37 on Steam and 43 on Epic.

Regarding the app, I disagree. It was very convenient to have everything in one place (which Steam fans should understand, given their reluctance to use a different launcher) and I used the chat feature all the time, but after Valve separated them, I just got tired of switching and ended up not installing the chat app after resetting my phone OS. Sometimes I need to message a friend, but I feel like the effort of installing it and logging in is not worth it for those occasions.

Poopfeast420,
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Finally, some real examples, where EGS is better than Steam, that actually impact people and might make them use EGS. Price is probably the most important one. If someone from Argentina pays like half as much on EGS as they would on Steam (don’t know how much it actually is), because EGS actually accepts their local currency and they don’t have to pay in USD or something, then it makes sense to switch to EGS

Also, EGS is better for devs than Steam, with revenue share, now even more so, as mentioned in the post. I don’t think a lot of people will buy on EGS solely for that reason, but it is something.

The OP says global preloading and gifting are going live soon

That’s why I mentioned them. You basically said, people (maybe unjustly) talk shit about EGS because of missing features like that, when they also have some advantages over Steam, and then talk about the most mundane stuff. “I might not be able to pre-load this game, but at least I can cap my download at 13468kb/s.” Those two are not the same.

It was very convenient to have everything in one place

As I said, with the button to switch to the Chat inside the Steam app, it’s basically the same. What is the real difference of clicking that button and switching to a different app, compared to clicking that button and switching to a new screen inside the same app? I genuinely can’t think of one. You could argue a separate app is better, because now you can open both apps at the same time in split screen, so you can browse the store or community pages, while chatting (I wouldn’t do that, but it’s possible).

I’m not sure the discounts offered via bundles on Steam are an overall better deal compared to Epic offering cashback of 5% on everything, sometimes increased to 20% (like now)

Probably not, most of the time, and this post doesn’t detail what bundling for EGS means. Steam has normal game bundles and the Complete-your-Collection bundles, which is dynamic and can give some extra discounts.

However, with Steam keys from legit third-party sites, you might get an even better deal at times, maybe better than on EGS, so I don’t really know where it’s the cheapest.

Rose,

Just realized that I was a little gaslit there, as Epic has already had bundles since 2019, with one of the most recent being the STALKER bundle that costs less than the individual games combined. Just like a game edition, a bundle can even be wishlisted on Epic, a feature lacking on Steam.

PapstJL4U, do games w Overwatch 2 slaps
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My first question: Did they change the gun play?

Because that feeling I got from OW gun play was “spammy, unsatisfying, boring” either in kill time, movement or timing.

The weapons are simple, but you don’t get the arena gameplay of map control, ammunition control and weapon cycling of arena shooters.

A single weapon is not complex to use as a weapon in CS or DirtyBomb.

To be honest Dirty bomb does health and ammo management better.

Everything I hear sounds good, but I never heared them fixing guna.

Poopfeast420, (edited )
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Nope, the game is and will probably always be spammy. Everyone has unlimited ammo. I definitely prefer this btw.

There’s map control of course, just not like arena shooters. Most maps have changing objectives, around which the fights happen.

Instead of more difficult weapons you’re managing your abilities and cooldowns.

That’s just the kind of game OW is.

Eyck_of_denesle,

Ig thats just how the game is. I loved Valorants gun sounds better. Also the feeling when you 1 tap someone on a tac shooter is too peak. Sadly it’s playerbase is too toxic and the game isn’t on linux.

borari,

You should check out The Finals. Free to play, runs on Linux, guns feel and sound mint, dev studio made up of a bunch of former DICE devs. It’s not everyone’s bag of tea though there’s a lot of decision space in the main Cashout mode.

andybytes, (edited ) do gaming w Not allowed!

There never was a rules-based order. There was just America, the imperialist empire that it is. There are no norms anymore. It’s just bitches running wild… And it kind of always was like this, really. It’s just… the temperature is rising, and the events are accelerating. America, the Supreme Karen, is flailing about making a scene. She never worked on herself. And so all she can do is slap, bite, and scratch. As she falls into the abyss of her own self-awareness and Self-Hatred. So entering the stage is the kazoo man playing the national anthem trailing off, losing interest. You can hear the coughing in the audience and the crickets chirping as people are exiting out the back. A limp dick, a turd left in the bowl you flush and its legacy is the streak that is left. USAID is the CIA slush fund and charity is tyranny. A mechanism of colonizers. The world is a capitalist hellhole. War is used as a bludgeon to beat down the working class. These rich bitches might have an argument or two amongst themselves, but they understand their place in the hierarchy. They will join forces to get you to work for nothing. They all in on it. It is your kids not mine. So, I’m only gonna live so long, so it is what it is. Meh… okey dokey in the hocus pokey and you turn yourself around and that’s what it’s all about. AOC and Bernie Scamturdz is gonna save us all! hahahhahahhaha. Oh Nancy! Oh Nancy! Where are you Nancy?

tostiman,
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tldr

andybytes,

Did you forget how to spell?

tostiman,
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TL;DR

samus12345,
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Too Long; Deranged Rant

modifier,
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You only need look away for the briefest moment and suddenly there is a fresh infestation of new copy pasta. Marvelous.

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