Clicked hoping for train game, instead found horror biking game.
Pedal through the fog, but never look back.Trapped in a constantly shifting horror, you must ride, conserve your phone’s battery, and decode cryptic messages to escape. Explore, survive, uncover the truth.
I remember there being some game on iPhone with a title like “Zombies, run!” where they somehow locked progress behind real-life running—that was the whole point of the game, to get you to work out in real life. I think it’d be cool if: if this game succeeds, if a spinoff or adaptation where your progress is locked behind real-world biking was released.
No, I mean a single game that is intended to be run while cycling, not the game + a separate cycling app. Think Pokémon GO but with this game and cycling instead of walking.
Between trains and large ships, I love the feeling of operating large vehicles with multiple rooms. Bonus points if one large vehicle can carry a smaller vehicle.
Examples: Sea of Thieves, Subnautica, many JRPGs with airships, even something like The Last Express.
I have not checked, but I hope and trust there are difficulty options. It’s been a long time since I’ve been able to play MMX at or near the level in that video.
This game gets universal praise and I’d love to play it but as a PC gamer I refuse to as I wouldn’t want to support a dev who not only never does sales but raises the price because of “inflation”
Me, I wish more games respected my time like that, instead of costing 40$ and going on 20% sale every few weeks, leaving me to hunt bargain bins to be able to get it at its “efficient” price.
For me the major red flag is the price going up for inflation. The game went up in price when it left Early Access already and that was 3 years ago. But now the game is being sold as a full game sure it might get updates but one can expect a finished product to at least stay the same price, not go up.
As for sales, at least on PC games are pretty much always on sale either through steam directly or from sites like humble or greenmangaming. You can pretty much pickup any not recent game for 20% off at anytime if you search gg.deals or a similar service.
Well yes, if you do the math it would be cheaper then the $30 price point it’s been for years. Actually it adds up to the same as a 20% sale of the $30 price.
I get the point you make. I can accept a game that never goes on sale. The main problem I have is it increasing price after 3 years out of early access.
While we disagree severely, I am grateful to hear the “other side” in a civil discussion. I suspect the no-downvote policy of Beehaw enables this discussion and hope to find more of it.
I don’t really understand your take. They sold the game cheap after 7 years of development and it’s still a really good value after the increases in price. I couldn’t praise the developers and how they run this game / business enough.
Factorio returns an ever increasing value for the money due to the continuous effort the developers have put in especially on modding, and on the ever expanding quality and amount of mods that gives you a whole new game many times over.
I cannot think of a game that has better value for money than Factorio.
The only downside is that you will spend an indeterminate amount of time playing the game and when you think your finally done, there is another game changing mod that will give you another full and even longer gameplay, for free.
There’sa free demo you can download to try it out and see if it’s something you’d value.
My take is less about the game itself, and the idea of games increasing its price at all. I’ve tried the demo and its a game right up my alley plus I enjoy games like it such as satisfactory. It just doesn’t stomach well to me of a digital game going up in price.
I have seen multiple people mention mods at this point and I don’t really count modding as part of the value of a game since modders aren’t getting paid when I buy the game. Plus really any game can be infinite if you enjoy it enough and mods exist for it.
Fair enough, we’ll just disagree then. I personally have no problem with this game increasing in price since I think it’s also increasingly giving value. I believe the studio runs an honest business and have honest expenses, and if this is what they need then I much prefer this over random sales, constant DLCs if you want to continue to get value, in game marketing and micro transactions etc.
I cannot think of a game that has better value for money than Factorio.
Rimworld. It’s the only other one I can think of that people play for insane hours, it’s still my most played game and I’ve barely touched it in a long while, I think I have 1400ish, my boyfriend has over 3.5k hours
Does the value you get of the game change depending on which time of the year you buy it?
Actually, the only change is up, as the game was improving and expanding pretty much constantly from the first early release to version 1.1. And it value is going up, when you buy in early access you’re only getting the current (unfinished but playable) state and a “promise” that it will get better in the future. When you buy the finished product you’re already certainly getting that better state, so it makes sense that it’s more expensive.
A game going up in price is fair from early access to release. This is a typical concept and an expected one for the reason you stated, the company makes a promise that it will be fully released.
To me the issue is the inflation price increase that most recently happened. Typically when a digital good releases in a finished state, it tends to stay at a max price. 30 USD is what Factorio decided on. Then it’s up to 35. Sure its had updates since the full release but why should I have to pay more then the full release price because I waited?
Typically sales are the reward for those who wait. Factorio seems to be the opposite, those who wait pay more. Inflation is real I understand, but this is also a digital good that has infinite supply. I as a consumer want to buy a game, and I can’t tell what the content changed from this 1.0 to the 1.1 since I haven’t played it. It probably is justifiable for the 5 bucks increase, but the consumer doesn’t know that. I just know this game I want, was 30 bucks and now it’s 35 and still hasn’t been on sale.
The reward for getting a full release game before a sale is to play it early. You aren’t losing the value of your purchase because I got it for 30% off. You got to play it early, and I waited for a price that I felt willing to pay. (The you is referring to people in general, not you specifically)
To me the issue is the inflation price increase that most recently happened. Typically when a digital good releases in a finished state, it tends to stay at a max price. 30 USD is what Factorio decided on. Then it’s up to 35. Sure its had updates since the full release but why should I have to pay more then the full release price because I waited?
Because when you buy it now for $35 right now, you get more for your money than what I got years ago for $25. Even ignoring the additional content and polishing, you’re also getting the benefit of all the testing and bug reporting by early adopters, as well as the bug fixing by the developers.
Typically sales are the reward for those who wait.
This is just the wrong mindset. Why would the developer, publisher, valve, or anyone else want to reward you for not buying their product?
(yes, I know software pricing is a clusterfuck. But the common theme is that the seller wants to extract as much value from every customer as possible, so ideally they would set the price individually for each customer based on the highest amount that customer is willing to pay. Sales after a while are a mechanism for this.)
Because when you buy it now for $35 right now, you get more for your money than what I got years ago for $25. Even ignoring the additional content and polishing, you’re also getting the benefit of all the testing and bug reporting by early adopters, as well as the bug fixing by the developers.
Is that not the opposite? Sure I get less buggy version, but you also have how many years to play compared to me. And you are getting the same game I am when I buy it. You eventually get that content, which one could say is added value to the 25 bucks vs the 35 I spend. You got 10 bucks of content from free essentially.
This is just the wrong mindset. Why would the developer, publisher, valve, or anyone else want to reward you for not buying their product?
It’s not the publisher rewarding me. The reward comes from me waiting and getting a cheaper game then those who bought it earlier. As you state
so ideally they would set the price individually for each customer based on the highest amount that customer is willing to pay. Sales after a while are a mechanism for this.
If a game isn’t worth X amount of dollars to me then I will wait till the game is Y amount of dollars. If the game never does then I never buy it, meaning the publishers lose, not me.
Is that not the opposite? Sure I get less buggy version, but you also have how many years to play compared to me. And you are getting the same game I am when I buy it. You eventually get that content, which one could say is added value to the 25 bucks vs the 35 I spend. You got 10 bucks of content from free essentially.
No, you’re forgetting the fact that when I bought it, I didn’t know what I’ll be getting in the future. I lucked out with Factorio, but it could happen that the devs just stopped working on it, I didn’t know at the time.
It’s not the publisher rewarding me. The reward comes from me waiting and getting a cheaper game then those who bought it earlier. As you state
Who do you think sets the price, if not the publisher?
the publishers lose, not me.
And yet, it’s not the publishers complaining about it online.
No, you’re forgetting the fact that when I bought it, I didn’t know what I’ll be getting in the future. I lucked out with Factorio, but it could happen that the devs just stopped working on it, I didn’t know at the time.
That’s the risk you paid for. My criticism is price increase after full launch. If early access game goes up in price when it fully releases that is a different thing.
Who do you think sets the price, if not the publisher?
The publisher sets the price. They put a game on sale to make more money. I buy the game on sale. I get the game as the reward. The publisher gets money they wouldn’t have otherwise.
And yet, it’s not the publishers complaining about it online.
I’m a random person who has no reputation to defend. I could just as easily start over online and nothing would hurt me. The publisher has a reputation to keep. They need to keep making money. Other then that, complaining is the way to for the consumer to get thoughts out about practices. I don’t like a game going up in price due to “inflation” and a game never going on sale therefor I will communicate that.
I never played ArmA before Reforger, but coming from Squad it feels great. From my understanding of common gripes long time ArmA players have with Reforger, it’s a bit less milsim, so take that into account if you want to jump in.
The vanilla community doesn’t seem to be always onboard with milsiming or tactics in general, , but as far as the mechanics and capabilities of the game I think you can get miles closer to simulating than we have in Squad. I love reforger and would recommend it to anybody.
Definitely. I love the freedom ArmA gives. It allows to really engage with any objective as you see fit. The structure of a typical AAS or RAAS match in squad doesn’t really allow for that to happen.
The day before yesterday a buddy and I managed to round up 4 people to come with us to retake Cabin on a WCS server. W After that we went to Chotain. While the team took farm, we went on to take Laruns, then quarry while the team took Camurac, and then Penant’s . We went from losing Military Hospital to the enemy team struggling to even field helicopters to the western coast.
Haven’t ever gotten close to that in Squad. Though I will say that rounding up enough volunteers to do that is kind of hard.
Those are all awesome but for playing Pokémon specifically I had some fun playing ROM hacks as really good ones exist. Currently waiting for a good NDS hack as gen 4 games have been decompiled and progress is being made twords feature rich NDS hacks like we already have for GBA
Yeah, community-made Pokemon games really hit some heights in recent years. Too bad Nintendo is so opposed to the homebrew scene.
I had lots of fun with Pokémon Odyssey last year, patiently waiting for the final update that should come this year as well. As I said, 2025 is packed!
The mammoths and art style really are too much taken from Tabs for me to want to try this. It looks like copy that doesn’t offer any new or original ideas.
I feel like i see this a lot in indie games now (and some big name games too). The most common one i see is Stardew Valley. As happy as it makes me seeing someone try something new, it gets a bit tiring seeing 10 games every month that’s just “Stardew Valley but X”
A cross platform option would be Power ISO. It has an option for the bin/cue format CD games are in and I’ve used it on Linux. It can also do ISO for DVD games
I tried power ISO earlier though it came up with an error when ripping the game. I also tried k3b at the start which works for ps2 games but it was unable to rip ps1 games.
You weren’t lying. I was looking for “knowledge” games similar to Animal Well and Outer Wilds and I saw some reviews making the comparison. Tbh, I was a little underwhelmed at first. I thought it was a good game but it didn’t feel like what I was looking for. But the back half really opened it up. Figuring out the mountain door puzzle was like a jaw on the floor moment. By the end I had several pages of graph paper with notes and sketches.
Never played the first one but both of them look stupidly addictive. I feel like it is a chill version of Xonix-like games. Not quite the same but I can vaguely put them into the same genre basket.
Definitely the kind of game that you start playing and then suddenly it’s dark out, your boss is mad because you didn’t show up for work today, your parents are calling because you haven’t talked to them in a week, and bill collectors are writing you because you haven’t paid your bills in a couple months…
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