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_cryptagion, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed

I look forward to pirating all those games too.

billwashere, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed

“Revealed”….

MajorHavoc, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed

Lol. I did put my money on “barely distinguishable from the Switch 1, maybe bigger”. I guess I win the betting pool.

I’m mainly happy because I didn’t want to be tempted to support Nintendo’s lawsuit happy asses, anyway.

If they ever release a Virtual Boy Mini, my conscience will never recover from my own hypocrisy, though.

crazyminner,

I plan on buying just the console (which they usually lose money on anyways), and then leaving it in the box not connected to the Internet until a mod chip comes out.

MajorHavoc,

Ooh. I like that. Ethical, and fun!

b34k,

I don’t think Nintendo loses money on their consoles. With the original switch, and this switch 2, they specifically went with old and slow hardware to ensure the margins work out.

Prethoryn,
@Prethoryn@lemmy.world avatar

Congratulations on your personal betting pool. Wishing you the best.

I will be buying one.

g1ya777, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed

Retro compatibilty probably powered by Yuzu ?

ILikeBoobies,

Powered by being the same as the Switch + whatever anti-Piracy they put it

Like how the PS5 can play pirated PS4 games but can’t play pirated PS5 games

Kit,

The PS5 can play pirated PS4 games? That’s badass.

demizerone, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed

I’m an og Nintendo hype veteran from the days of N64. This is the first where I ignored all the rumors. I am not impressed also not disappointed.

NikkiDimes,

It’s kind of wild seeing Nintendo just make an upgraded version of the previous console. Even the Wii U was fairly transformative, even if not great.

This, from the perspective of someone who isn’t huge on Nintendo, kinda feels more like a “Switch Pro” kind of thing, no?

ShepherdPie,

I think the “Switch Pro” would be the OLED model as an upgrade of the original. This thing looks brand new even if it shares a lot of similarity to the original.

therealjcdenton, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed

Can’t wait to play tears of the kingdom at 30 fps

CptEnder, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed

My question is the dock an eGPU?

amon,

Unlikely, Nintendo probably isn’t bothered to boost the graphics beyond the switch 2’s onboard GPU. Nintendo doesn’t really care about graphics so I’d be surprised if it had an eGPU.

WarlordSdocy,

Could make an interesting pricier addon for down the line. Like the release version is just a dock but later on they release an egpu dock that you have to buy separately.

tb_,
@tb_@lemmy.world avatar

The current Switch still selling as much as it does proves that performance doesn’t really matter.

jj4211,

That would complicate things in a pretty non console way, especially counter to Nintendo that hasn’t tried to match competitor console performance since the GameCube.

ILikeBoobies,

N64 expansion pak

SirHery,

If anything they put some better upscaling into it.

Redex68,

Almost certainly not

sparky,

It ought to have been, considering how much games struggle on the first switch lately. This will have the same problem otherwise, 2-3 years into its lifecycle it will be begging for death while the PS5/XSX are still chugging along.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Considering what the SteamDeck can provide already…Not really

NastyNative, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed
@NastyNative@mander.xyz avatar

Will this still play switch 1 games? (Physical cartridges)

EarMaster,
@EarMaster@lemmy.world avatar

Yes

ours,

From TFA:

The Switch 2 will have backward compatibility with games from the original Switch (with some unspecified exceptions).

bungle_in_the_jungle, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed

Thoroughly whelmed

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

It is a video game console that I have ever seen.

jaggedrobotpubes, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed

I bought a game on switch for like 40 bucks that ended up being really bad, and tried to get it refunded within about two hours of purchase, after about thirty minutes of play time. Couldn’t get the refund.

Ever since, I was VERY slow to buy anything, because, what if it’s unexpectedly bad? I have to know I mean it, otherwise I shouldn’t buy it. I want to buy a game, not flush money down the toilet.

So, now I kind of just don’t want a Switch 2.

slumberlust,

Steam deck?

Korhaka,

Been tempted to get a steam deck at some point, just not sure how much I would use it and if it would justify the cost, having all my games already makes it infinitely more appealing than the switch though.

boonhet,

I don’t get how a Steam Deck is a replacement for a Switch tbh.

You buy the Switch to play Nintendo games mostly, though it’s nice that you can take it with you.

You buy the Steam Deck because you can take it with you and it has a huge library - but it has no Nintendo games, so it fails to scratch that one particular itch.

NukeNPave,

but it has no Nintendo games

Natively? No, but it is pretty easy to emulate on the Deck. I have successfully run everything from Gameboy to Nintendo DS and Switch games on the Steam Deck.

boonhet,

Hmm, how’s Switch piracy these days? If I’m emulating, I’m probably not going to be paying for games either since I can’t have physical copies

offspec,

I play my physical switch games using my cartridge dumper

dodos,

I accidentally bought a game that didn’t have English in the region I bought it in and they wouldn’t refund me.

RidderSport,
@RidderSport@feddit.org avatar

My girlfriend accidentally bought Minecraft because she wanted to check out whether she could pay via PayPal. There are no further confirmations. Also no refund possible even though she hasn’t even installed it once. If I could be bothered, I’d sue, but in Germany that wouldn’t financially make sense, even though it would not be a hard case at all

IceFoxX,

Where is refund of digital goods, which must be activated or linked outside of Steam possible? With valve it is purely a gesture of goodwill. If you buy a game in a store and remove the foil, you won’t get it exchanged either. In Germany, every court would laugh at you and ask you to pay for wasting their time. Maybe you should look for the mistakes yourself? After all, you are the stupid uninformed person who blindly throws your money away. Blaming the embarrassment on the store providers is a real indictment. I’m sorry, you have completely different problems if you can’t get your act together.

RidderSport,
@RidderSport@feddit.org avatar

Ad hominem much? The point is an issue with the declaration of will to pursue a contract. You can challenge that after the fact.

IceFoxX,

We are talking about digital goods that are generally excluded from exchange. Even my little niece knows that. So lazy, stupid customer: find out on YouTube? Better not. Find out on gaming/review websites? Better not. Just google it or read at least 1 sentence about it before buying? No, better not. Buying blindly and then lining up like a toddler because you weren’t able to think about it thoroughly beforehand instead of buying blindly.

Use your brain first. Think about the money first. Be smarter beforehand. Get active before… Publishers always tell better stories… Which retailer doesn’t do that…_

RidderSport,
@RidderSport@feddit.org avatar

Still, dude touch grass. What the hell riled you up that much that you keep insulting me entirely unprovoked? Also my man, are you studying or have you studied German law, that you make yourself appear to know the German civil code?

IceFoxX, (edited )

Wie gesagt geh in ein Geschäft Kauf ein Spiel öffne die Folie und Versuch dann umzutauschen. Da die Produkte mit Key kommen, sich mit dem Acc verknüpfen etc. war es damals schon so das man vorher überlegen muss da keine Rückerstattung. So als es dann zu digitalen Medien ging wurde auch immer weiter DRM ausgebaut. Man wird in Deutschland nicht ohne Grund als raubmordkopierer direkt auf gleiche Stufe wie Mörder oder Räuber gestellt. ( Iso oder Backup von Daten ist zB schnell gemacht. Wie soll man sicherstellen das nicht heimlich eine Kopie angefertigt wurde und mit einen Crack lauffähig gemacht wird… ) Warum ich direkt so negativ reagiere? ( negative Erfahrungen prägt sich der Mensch am schnellsten ein. ) Tja weil das auf bestimmt über +50% der Leute bei steam zutrifft. Die blind kaufen… Bei denen der kick durch den klick kommt… Bei Leuten die bei einen Zahlungsanbieter testen ob man die Dienstleistung nutzen kann und sich dann wundert … Viele viele Probleme wären fast nicht erst wenn Leute sich nur mal 5min Zeit nehmen statt nur zu konsumieren.

RidderSport,
@RidderSport@feddit.org avatar

Ok dann mal in kurz: der wenn man etwas kauft, dann müssen zwei übereinstimmende Willenserklärungen in Form von Angebot und Annahme vorliegen, die die wesentlichen Vertragsbestandteile (Kaufsache, Preis und Vertragspartner) enthalten, die sog. essentialia negotii. Das Angebot ist hier nicht der Kaufbutton, dies ist eine Aufforderung zur Abgabe eines Angebots, sog. invitatio ad offerendum, sondern das Klicken selbst. Der Platform Betreiber nimmt konkludent durch Bereitstellung oder Auftragsbestätigung an.

Vorliegend handelt es sich zwar um einen Kaufvertrag i.S.d § 433 I BGB, aber wegen dem Vorrang des leges specialis, geht § 475a der Verbrauchsgüterkaufvertrag über digitale Produkte vor. Der setzt zum einen voraus, dass eine Partei Verbraucher und die andere Unternehmer ist. Außerdem, dass es sich um ein digitales Produkt handelt. Beides sollte offenkundig sein.

Allerdings könnte die Willenserklärung des Angebots, des Klickens, Mangelbehaftet sein. Sie könnte gemäß § 119 I Alt.2 BGB anfechtbar sein, wenn der Verbraucher keine Willenserklärung abgeben wollte. Dies ist hier der Fall. Wenn die Anfechtung erklärt wird und begründet ist, dann gilt das gesamte Rechtsgeschäft als von Anfang an als nichtig anzusehen, vgl. § 142 I BGB.

Formerfordernisse sind normalerweise Schriftform oder elektronische Form (Email), die muss aber mit einer elektronischen Signatur versehen sein.

Mein Punkt ist hier, Valve bietet über die Seite ein Formular für die Erklärung der Anfechtung (meist eher Widerruf) an, was vom Gesetz ausdrücklich erlaubt wird. Nintendo weigert sich regelmäßig auch bei korrekter Form die Annahme der Wirkung der Anfechtung. Hier wäre nur Abhilfe über Klageerhebung zu erreichen.

Selbstverständlich ist das dämlich einfach mal auf kaufen zu drücken. Ich kann aber durchaus verstehen, dass man annimmt einem würden noch Bezahloptionen angeboten werden. Zumal die Gerichtshöfe ja schon häufiger klarstellten, dass unmissverständlich sein muss, dass man mit dem Klicken einen Kaufvertrag abschließt. Außerdem halte ich es für echt fragwürdig, dass man kaufen kann ohne seine Identität in irgendeinerweise zu verifizieren. So könnten Minderjährige bspw. ohne Hürde kaufen - spätestens das würde von vorneherein keinen wirksamen Kaufvertrag darstellen, sofern nicht das Taschengeld bemüht wurde. (Wobei hier durch die Tatsache der bargeldlosen Zahlung noch ganz andere Probleme im Rahmen der Anweisung der Bank zur Gutschrift an Nintendo auftreten würden).

So und nun kannst du ja auch einfach mal ordentlich schreiben, anstatt dich wie ein Arschloch zu benehmen

IceFoxX,

Das Spiel wird darauf mit deinem Acc verknüpft und aktiviert damit du dieses nach dem kaufen direkt installieren kannst. Was schon in den AGB’s bei Account Erstellung geregelt sein müsste. Um halt so ein Schwachsinn direkt zu unterbinden. Bei Valve ist es zudem reinste Kulanz. Noch ein Grund warum mich deshalb so ein Verhalten ärgert… da die Leute sich da einbilden wer weiß was an rechten zu haben und solche Themen findet man auch da regelmäßig im Forum. Wie gesagt schon damals als man noch physische Kopien im Geschäft kaufte war Umtausch ausgeschlossen sobald die Folie entfernt wurde da nicht sichergestellt werden kam ob key benutzt oder sonst was. . Der Unterschied beim digitalen findet die Verknüpfung definitiv statt direkt beim Kauf.

Wenn man aber nicht mal mitbekommt wann man zahlungspflichtig kauft läuft etwas gewaltig schief… da entweder PayPal schon verknüpft und benutzt wurde ( das es ohne Weiterleitung funktioniert) somit die Aussage mit dem nicht wissen totaler Quark ist oder aber man erst eine Weiterleitung zu PayPal hat zum bestätigen und da wird dann sich darauf hinweisen.

Ja sind schöne Paragraphen aber viel Spaß beim versuchen. Da wird dann zwar eher die Zurechnungsfähigkeit infrage gestellt aber viel Glück beim anfechten.

Davon abgesehen haben die schon extra die Briefkastenfirmen am genau den Orten… zB Valve in Hamburg… Na viel Spaß dann beim Gericht die bekannt sind für ihre Urteile

shneancy,

aaaand another asshole blocked. if you want your comments to be read by people don’t be a dickhead

IceFoxX,

Is that why it’s so important for you to tell me? Block != start conservation.

NikkiDimes,

Dude, wtf? You don’t have to be such a dick, eh?

SirHery,

Buy it on the first day, never connect it to the internet and wait for the first jailbreak. Then you never have to pay for any game.

bitwaba,

SteamOS plus the next gen of MSI Claw or ASUS ROG ally is going to be the absolutely superior gaming and customer experience in the coming years. There’s no good reason to buy a Switch unless you need Nintendo exclusives (or have kids, and then it just makes sense).

Eggyhead, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed

I’ll wait for the OLED model, because apparently this isn’t it.

Glitch,

:O

lka1988,

This doesn’t have OLED? Yikes.

rimjob_rainer, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed

Can’t wait… for a Switch 2 emulator

CeeBee_Eh,

Yuzutu?

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yuzucha?

maplebar, (edited ) do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed

Well, it’s a bigger, better Switch alright…

A little bit underwhelming hardware-wise. Extra joycon L/R don’t seem like they’ll factor in much in most singleplayer docked or handheld settings. (I guess those aren’t new buttons… .) The mouse thing (if that’s what they’re showing) is somewhat interesting and helps to keep touch controls relevant when docked. Top USB port, sure. Backwards compatibility is great news. Screen is…?

As always with Nintendo I think it comes down to the games. Mario Kart 9 hasn’t blown me away just yet, but we’ve barely seen anything at all so…

To be continued in April, i guess.

dustyData,

Which mouse thing? they seem to be exactly all the same inputs the Switch 1 already had.

maplebar,

They seem to be implying that you can turn the joycons on their side to use them kind of like a mouse… I guess?

At least that’s what the rumors and chatter have been saying. How practical that is… I dunno.

dustyData,

It looked like they were mimicking cars to me, not mice. Not saying that it wouldn’t be a cool concept if it has an optical sensor. But they didn’t show any visual feedback to imply they were controlling any kind of cursor. If that was the implication, it’s obvious it was a rushed marketing piece.

lunarul,

They were attached to an accessory that allowed them to slide like that. It must have a point other than just look cool on the trailer.

dustyData,

Weren’t those accessories just wrist straps?

lunarul,
PCurd,

Please excuse the screenshot of a video but this looks a lot like an optical sensor. I’ve seen a lot of internet “experts” covering this and the general consensus for now is optical sensor too.

https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/16cecd85-0be3-4dbb-a70e-7ff16f4a764f.webp

Edit: screenshot from 1:02 in the launch video

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

A mouse mode could be extremely useful for things like Civilization or Fire Emblem. Of course, the touch screen is also great for that and Three Houses and Triangle Strategy didn’t support it.

CptEnder,

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  • maplebar,

    Did I offend you or something? Does your dad work for Nintendo? 🙄

    It’s a figure of speech. But let me really spell it out for you and any other fucking slowpokes in the back of the class

    I’m not impressed with the hardware or the software that they showed today. They should show more than 8 seconds of a game that looks marginally better than Mario Kart 8 (a game I bought and enjoyed 11 years ago on the Wii U) if they want to impress me and sell me on a piece of hardware that is incrementally better than the Switch they sold me 8 year ago. Hopefully they have something that will impress me when they do another presentation in April, but if not that’s cool who gives a fuck man.

    LiveLM, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed

    Looks starkly… Non-Nintedo-y?
    I dunno, changing from the full colored joycons to black with accents and more rounded corners caught me off guard. This looks like a handheld from GPD or ONEXPLAYER

    CidVicious,
    @CidVicious@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I’m sure that they’ll have a billion models with more color

    thehatfox,
    @thehatfox@lemmy.world avatar

    Everything has to look so serious these days.

    The colourful Joy Cons were part of the Switch’s identity, sad to see it reduced to an accent they seem almost ashamed of.

    VindictiveJudge,
    @VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m guessing the all grey model probably sold better than the one with colorful joycons so they lead with that this time.

    Binette,
    @Binette@lemmy.ml avatar

    My hope is that they have an inverted version

    SpatchyIsOnline,

    The original switch also had an option with grey joy cons

    lunarul,

    My switch came with black joycons. Iirc it cost extra to get the colored ones.

    v4ld1z,

    I think they were the same, but the coloured ones were a little harder to get irrc? Preordered the grey version and it cost 330€ - coloured joy-cons should have been the same

    MurrayL,

    People said similar things about the all-white Wii after the GameCube - it’s just the natural ebb and flow of product design

    IndustryStandard,

    True theseloook rather serious. That said their customer base is also far wider than children these days.

    gofsckyourself, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 finally officially revealed

    This blog post is worthless. A direct link to the official video announcement would be better.

    youtu.be/itpcsQQvgAQ

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    It had worth to me, as someone who was stuck in a place where it was unacceptable to watch a video but was acceptable instead to read a summary quietly.

    gofsckyourself, (edited )

    Mute the video?

    There’s also this

    The summary of the article isn’t even good. It buries the info in a bunch of other useless information, probably to increase word count and SEO. They could have included pictures from the video, too, but didn’t.

    Ironfacebuster,

    Just curious, why was it unacceptable to watch the video?

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    It was early morning at jury selection, and I did not bring headphones with me.

    Ironfacebuster,

    I can see how it would be a little awkward at jury selection lol

    However the video just has some generic sounding apple-esque marketing music and no talking so no headphones required!

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    I couldn’t know that until I got home, and this article summarized everything just fine as well as embedding the source video in it.

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