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vikingtons, (edited ) do games w Ubisoft sued for shutting down The Crew
@vikingtons@lemmy.world avatar

Out of curiosity, did anyone sue bungie for doing the same thing with destiny’s Y1 & Y2 content?

I was one of those dumb bastards who bought the game and DLC back in 2017

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

It gets to be way harder to argue in court when it isn’t a “clean kill”, using Ross Scott’s words, so The Crew is going to be one of the best examples we’ll ever get for courts to rule on. I expect Ubisoft would rather settle than let this one go that far though.

Katana314,

I imagine a lawsuit would likely bring up the topic of how hard it would be for a developer to keep the game around past purchase.

For instance, imagine a massively multiplayer online game; everyone playing the game is acutely aware of how much server hardware is needed to maintain that online presence, and it’s unrealistic to assume it would exist forever.

That’s probably why attention was pushed onto The Crew. It’s a racing game that shouldn’t need much from a server, so it’s arguably unfair to tie it to that access and take it offline.

cbarrick,

it’s unrealistic to assume it would exist forever.

Older multiplayer games would let you self-host the server, long before the current trend.

Ubisoft doesn’t have to continue to host servers. They just have to release the server code. Zero cost to them.

emax_gomax,

zero cost to them

I would imagine it would reveal how sh*tty the ubisoft code bases are and has a reputation cost XD. But if it’s that big of a risk then they should keep the servers running indefinitely.

cbarrick,

I mean, they don’t have to release the source code. A compiled version would be fine.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Pirates have managed to run servers for tons of MMOs. The only thing stopping people from running servers themselves is that they’re not made available.

Starbuncle,

That’s why companies shutting down online games need to be compelled to open-source or at least provide binaries for their servers.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t get it wrong, the reason The Crew was the perfect game to start the movement is solely because Ubisoft is french, a country that has pretty strong consumer laws that they aren’t respecting.

exu, do games w Ubisoft sued for shutting down The Crew

If you’re an EU citizen, please take the time to sign this citizen initiative to stop killing games. It could be our best chance of preventing such situations in the future.

www.stopkillinggames.com

youTellMe,

Thor summarizes the problems with this initiative pretty well: youtu.be/ioqSvLqB46Y?si=QPjVZcV7zteBPpos

TheEighthDoctor,

No he doesn’t, he creates strawman and fights them

SomethingBurger,

This guy’s strawman arguments have already been destroyed by plenty of people who actually know what they’re talking about and don’t have an interest in keeping the current situation.

Joelio,

The guy who won’t go 5 seconds without flashing his “20 years of service to Blizzard” badge also was dumbfounded at the possibility of people self hosting game servers like World of Warcraft, even though they’ve been doing it for years. Dude seems like a MASSIVE know it all.

iaaudio,

What a terrible take.

ChonkaLoo, do games w Ubisoft sued for shutting down The Crew

Only fair I hope it’ll cost them a lot.

cbarrick,

It won’t

shoulderoforion, do games w Ubisoft sued for shutting down The Crew
@shoulderoforion@fedia.io avatar

If you buy a game, which you cannot use in single player mode, without internet access, you are signing up for this happening to you too, one day, guaranteed.

Lost_My_Mind,

“You’re gonna hate the way it feels. I guarantee it.”

Scolding7300,

At this point I’m afraid only government intervention would help (with citizens asking it to do so)

Lost_My_Mind,

Buddy…government doesn’t give a shit about video games. They got wars to start. People to exploit.

Scolding7300,

I think the department that protects consumers isn’t busy with wars

emax_gomax,

I mean, that’s basically all AAA games in 2024. Even songs PC ports which historically avoided DRM and network requirements is starting to mandate PSN accounts. I 100% would prefer to be able to play offline, more often than not it’s unwanted telemetry or BS bloat but that isn’t something we as users can enforce.

whithom, do games w Ubisoft sued for shutting down The Crew

If they release something with paid content, I should get to have that paid content forever, or get a refund. 🤷‍♂️

Lost_My_Mind,

Cries in MMOs from 20 years ago.

Brumefey,

Last week I downloaded Dark Age of Camelot which I have not played nor paid for 20 years, and my character was still there. I was really not expecting them to keep the data for so long without any payment.

Starbuncle,

I understand why most companies wouldn’t do that, but they should be forced to open-source online games that get shut down or otherwise made non-functional.

zalgotext,

At minimum they should provide copies of the software to anyone who paid a subscription, and then enterprising individuals would figure out how to get private servers running

leonokarin, do games w Death Stranding gets surprise Xbox Series X release
@leonokarin@lemmy.ml avatar

Play Death Stranding needs to be patient

B0NK3RS, do games w Death Stranding gets surprise Xbox Series X release
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

This is great news. Death Stranding is in my all time top 10 so highly recommend it to anyone tempted on Xbox.

drasglaf, (edited )
@drasglaf@sh.itjust.works avatar

I bought it last year but I abandoned it after only a few hours. I have to give it another chance.

B0NK3RS,
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly the first few hours are a bit of a chore but keep going.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Death Stranding is one of my favorite examples of how many ideas are out there to make games out of without resorting to making a game loop revolve around violence.

Entropywins,

I don’t know I violently fell very often in that game…

chakan2,
@chakan2@lemmy.world avatar

Eh…I struggled through the second half…it wasn’t worth it. So many convoluted cut scenes to tell you what the last convoluted cut scene just said.

lowleveldata,

The delivering part is actually fun tho. The cut scenes are confusing but they don’t really take that long so it’s fine for me.

chakan2,
@chakan2@lemmy.world avatar

Really? That scene where you’re lost on the beach was at least 45 minutes. It may have been hours…I’d get to the next part, the cut scene would start and Id put up with it for 5 minutes then go mow the grass or something. That was painful to get through.

lowleveldata,

Well ya that was really bad. But it was just that 1 time (also it’s with the credit roll) so I’m going to let it slide. I also started reading a book at that part tho.

PunchingWood,

I recently tried it and only got through the first chapter before giving up, it’s just not fun to me.

wrekone,

Same. I think i could have enjoyed the gameplay but the horror aspect and overall vibe was too offputting.

JackDark, do games w Death Stranding gets surprise Xbox Series X release

It’s interesting that it specifically mentions the Series X. My understanding is that anything released on Series X must also run on the Series S.

elgordino,

Yeah, I think this is just an oversight. It says X and S on the store page.

rtxn,

It’s because xbox’s naming scheme is fucking stupid.

Skipcast, do games w Death Stranding gets surprise Xbox Series X release

Good for them, fuck Sony

MarcomachtKuchen, do gaming w Homicipher tasked me with learning a new language to survive a sea of ghosts

Seems really cool. But a bit to scary for me, I just can’t stand jumpscares

Nuke_the_whales, do games w Secret actor behind Metal Gear Solid 3’s EVA revealed after 20 years

Benson explained that because “the various projects that I am affiliated with in my career are family-based, children-based,” voice acting director Kris Zimmerman suggested that she go with a pseudonym.

That’s gotta be the stupidest thing I ever heard. Just about every voice actor does adult Video Games and kids movies. Nobody cares.

Also she’s been on the IMDb credits for the metal Gear games as EVA for like years

fmstrat,

Keep in mind, 2004.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

She was not credited as Jodi Benson for years.

Yokozuna, do games w Secret actor behind Metal Gear Solid 3’s EVA revealed after 20 years
@Yokozuna@lemmy.world avatar

Someone update the wiki!!!

Viking_Hippie, do games w Secret actor behind Metal Gear Solid 3’s EVA revealed after 20 years

So she asked me, ‘What was your dog’s name growing up?’

And then she emptied her bank account, having just learned the final security question answer.

rubikcuber, do games w Secret actor behind Metal Gear Solid 3’s EVA revealed after 20 years
@rubikcuber@feddit.uk avatar

So she asked me, ‘What was your dog’s name growing up?’ and I said, ‘Suzette Monet.’

🤔

Chronographs, do games w Secret actor behind Metal Gear Solid 3’s EVA revealed after 20 years

Jodi Benson

ytsedude,

If you’re like me, you might not recognize her by name, but she is Ariel in The Little Mermaid and Barbie in Toy Store.

Watching some old MGS3 cutscenes, I can hear it. There’s no way I would’ve guessed it without knowing, but you can hear a little of Ariel in EVA’S voice.

Yokozuna,
@Yokozuna@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks. Opening up that site and being greeted with “we share your info with 800+ companies” made me turn around so fast.

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