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millie, do gaming w Terraforming Mars team defends AI use as Kickstarter hits $1.3 million

What a terrible interview. The interviewer literally repeatedly asks questions that they’ve already answered and shows pretty clearly that they haven’t bothered actually researching or trying AI art technology. They certainly seemed to have read plenty of articles about how bad AI is, but didn’t even bother scratching the surface of how it’s actually used.

It reads like a hit piece coming from someone who only reads what comes up in their feed.

roguetrick, (edited ) do gaming w Terraforming Mars team defends AI use as Kickstarter hits $1.3 million

I actually think this brings up a good point. Artists they hire for these tabletop game jobs will end up using AI to create a base image or backgrounds and edit it for the project one way or another. They'll do it to increase their own output and income.

Edit: And guys like this will pay you less to extract more profits from you with that in mind of course.

ArchmageAzor, do games w Terraforming Mars team defends AI use as Kickstarter hits $1.3 million
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t see the sub at first and thought it was a kickstarter for a real-life mars terraformation project

evilsmurf, do games w Terraforming Mars team defends AI use as Kickstarter hits $1.3 million

Awesome, I didn’t know they had a kickstarter going. No such thing as bad press I guess.

kae, do games w Terraforming Mars team defends AI use as Kickstarter hits $1.3 million

Good interview. They didn’t let them off the hook, but weren’t pushing an agenda either.

This is going to be a moving target that someone is going to pay big bucks to figure out in court. International laws are not up to speed on what is or isn’t ok here, and the ethical discussion is interesting to watch unfold.

alleycat, do games w Terraforming Mars team defends AI use as Kickstarter hits $1.3 million
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PenguinTD, do gaming w Immortals of Aveum studio lays off nearly half of staff weeks after release

I bought the game for science cause it was the only game so far using all major features of UE5 and is a good reference to see how they manage asset, etc to keep the game running at 60fps with provided spec.

I think it does have potential, the mechanic is tight enough(the kbm default binding is not good, needs some rebind to make the combat flow more fluid), frame pacing is smooth majority of time(you have jitter mostly when it switch between cutscenes<->game), pretty much checked all the boxes and doesn’t feel lacking when playing the game.

BUT, it does have poor marketing plan and kinda bad luck in releasing window. It’s a good “alt shooter game” IMO.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

It also requires EA's always-online DRM like the recent Star Wars Jedi games. Steam needs to make that notification bigger so I know not to buy that sort of trash.

PenguinTD,

You mean denuvo? I think it’s a money sinker now so might as well remove it at this point. But it’s EA’s call. Also, yes I have to download EA’s launcher as well.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

And EA's launcher requires an active internet connection. Try playing Jedi: Fallen Order on a train, because I sure did, and it doesn't work. There may be a way to sidestep the launcher, particularly on older games like this one that had the launcher retrofitted into it after launch, but regardless, it tells me to stop buying EA games.

PenguinTD, (edited )

I generally avoid denuvo and EA. I literally break this stance just to see what they did with UE5 but ended up enjoying the game as well. It sucks cause denuvo means I can’t hook up RenderDoc and see how they render a frame compare to stock UE5. The movement reminds me a lot of original Quakes(very close to Q3) where you can have lots of control mid air and really snappy movement speed with their mechanics(blinks and grapples). But yeah, if this game doesn’t have this “use all UE5 latest tech” tag I will probably not even know or touching it cause I don’t play shooters after like Battlefield 3. Cause I am old and I like fast arena shooter not modern slow pace CQB/battle pass shooter, I was quite disappointed after trying Halo Infinite. But, that said, any shooter fits my criteria, would probably fail in sales. ^^;

lol, I go take a look, yep, battlefield 3.(note, I have no idea when I added crysis, it’s probably from a bundle or something and it redeems directly. I had high hope when crysis 2 released. ) And yes, I did played 2042 open beta cause we had a company game day that picked the open beta.(and yep I don’t like it. )

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/bdcb3af6-ad5b-416d-9e5b-88090c1b8fab.png

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

I don't think we're looking for the same type of shooter per se, but I agree that they don't make them for me anymore either.

PenguinTD,

Like which type of shooter is your thing?? For me it’s the quick arena/team shooter, my good shooter example would be Q3 and Tribes 2. I think it’s really satisfying when moving quickly and shoot people with actual projectiles, rocket/disc launcher in my examples. (not a fan of hit scan type)

ampersandrew, (edited )
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Not quite Quake speed, though I enjoy Quake just fine too. For me, the sweet spot was stuff like Halo, 007, Metal Arms, Half-Life, Crysis, that sort of thing. But yeah, everything these days is an online-only, live service battle royale or extraction shooter.

Molecular0079, do gaming w Immortals of Aveum studio lays off nearly half of staff weeks after release

On one hand, I applaud EA for at least attempting a new IP this time around instead of churning out yet another sequel, but on the other hand, damned if Immortals of Aveum didn’t look like the most generic thing out there.

jordanlund,
!deleted7836 avatar

Looked at it and went “Eh, could be interesting, but I don’t buy EA games and it will be $20 at Black Friday.”

Potatos_are_not_friends,

EA, Ubisoft, Activision…

I do it with a lot of big name AAA companies

chrisphero,

Another benefit is that they are more often then not patched up and better playable, compared to the release.

Phanatik, do gaming w It shouldn’t be this hard to play old Armored Core games

I've been ripping PS3 games for a little while now. I've recently bought some Dynasty Warriors Gundam games from Japan which I'm dumping at the moment.

Armoured Core has especially been in a thorn in my side. I've got 4 and 5 but still trying to acquire For Answer and Verdict Day. They're extremely hard to come across. I haven't looked at the PS2 games but I'm sure I could find those for cheap. Super easy to rip with a standard Disk Drive.

eltimablo,

I've got a rip of 4A if you want it. Might even have my old copy for 360 around here somewhere if you'd prefer that.

Phanatik,

That's very kind of you. I prefer physical CDs that I can redump if anything gets messed up. Haven't seen what I need to dump 360 games but I can give it a go.

SenorBolsa,
@SenorBolsa@beehaw.org avatar

360 games require original hardware unless there’s been some breakthrough recently. They use their own kinda weird dual layer DVD format.

Phanatik,

Well shit. I think I'm close to being done with the PS3 exclusives so the 360 is an option.

SenorBolsa,
@SenorBolsa@beehaw.org avatar

Yeah you can get drives that can rip them with third party firmware installed, (I have drives with custom firmware for other things) but the cheapest way is to just use an actual Xbox 360. Doesn’t need to be modded, Xenia can just use an installed game, so you just install the game to a flash drive then you can move it to your PC and run it from there.

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m curious, can a standard Blu-ray drive on a PC rip PS3 games? Or do you need special hardware? I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to rip PS1 games.

Phanatik,

I've read that you can use a Blue-Ray drive. The RPCS3 website has a proper guide on it though I haven't tried it. I jailbroke my PS3 (not fully because it's one of the 320GB models) and use that with FileZilla to dump games over the internet onto my PC.

amazing2, (edited ) do gaming w It shouldn’t be this hard to play old Armored Core games

Eh, if you want to play retro games just buy a used console, mod it, play pirated games. Of if your PC is good enough just emulate.

I love how the author of the article says that From Software should put out ports of the old games (and maybe remaster them while they’re at it) but you know when they review the package they’ll give a low score, say the game “really show its age” and “is only recommended for hardcore fans.” Well, the hardcore fans have played the originals and if not, they know how to emulate or pirate old games to use with original hardware.

Sentinian,
@Sentinian@lemmy.one avatar

Unless you are trying to the the ps3 game the ps2 and psp should be able to be emulated on literally any pc.

Hell psp runs fine on most android phones as well.

You literally have to be trying to not find a way to play these games if you say they aren’t easy to play. Fuck legality if the copyright hold is sitting on these games for no fucking reason

amazing2,

Yeah PSP games are trivial to emulate. My 2015 MacBook Air can run PPSSPP with ease, the games look great with the upped resolution.

SuperSteef,

Even the PS3 game can be played via an emulator. The tech is still evolving so you still need a fairly powerful computer but it is playable. For reference, I was able to test archiving various PS3 games on my now 11 year old gaming PC which was a medium-tier system at the time of the build.

Domiku,

I totally agree, but emulation still requires tons of unpaid work by enthusiasts. If/when Sony stops selling the PS3, they should turn over the source code and allow the community to make something really great. It’s not like they make any money of used console and game sales.

amazing2,

True but that’s how it’s always been. Most people who make emulators do it for the challenge or because they care about game preservation or both.

And they’ve done some wonderful things. One of my favourite things ever is the Nintendont launcher on the Wii. It lets you play GameCube disc images on the Wii natively. Even lets you use the normal controllers instead of having to plug in the original GameCube ones.

raptir,

I love how the author of the article says that From Software should put out ports of the old games (and maybe remaster them while they’re at it) but you know when they review the package they’ll give a low score, say the game “really show its age” and “is only recommended for hardcore fans.”

That’s not quite fair - Polygon had good things to say about the Cowabunga Collection for example.

sculd, do gaming w It shouldn’t be this hard to play old Armored Core games

haha…I play AC3 Last Raven on my PSP Its going to break my hand

Sentinian, do gaming w It shouldn’t be this hard to play old Armored Core games
@Sentinian@lemmy.one avatar

Its very easy to play the older AC games. Download a rom/iso and emulator

This is exactly why emulation is a needed thing.

eltimablo,

Shortly before launch, I set up AC4A on a PS3 emulator and it literally could not have been easier.

EvaUnit02,
@EvaUnit02@kbin.social avatar

Well, except for the fact that all four PS3 AC games are listed as "Ingame" on the RPCS3 compatability list.

eltimablo,

Those ratings are user-reported and most are several years out of date. I played 4A from beginning to end without any issues.

Haui, do gaming w It shouldn’t be this hard to play old Armored Core games
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It should be the same for everything: if an ip is no longer used, it should be in the public domain. Therefore, a company holding said IP is forced to use it (as in selling copies) or give it up.

Domiku,

Yes. I can imagine a middle-ground of copyright. If the IP is still being used, it enters the public domain on the regular schedule. But if it’s abandoned, it enters earlier… perhaps after 5-10 years of non-use.

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Honestly, in our fast moving world, I‘d do like a year. If nothing gets announced or release, you‘re done.

Example, you take a book, game or song from the market because you want people to be unable to buy it before you release the successor. Then you delay the successor for 5 yrs. Boom, public domain.

acastcandream, (edited ) do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 just made the future of Xbox Series S a bit more uncertain

Ultimately the game still had to release on Series S and Microsoft can simply say “no.” I think this is just bar talk speculation taken too far frankly. I’d be surprised if this radically changed their position.

stopthatgirl7,
!deleted7120 avatar

Thing is, it didn’t ultimately have to release on series S. Larian could very well have decided it was too much work to get it to work, and Microsoft didn’t want Xbox left out of such a big release. I think as the generation goes on, you’re going to see a lot more devs and studios deciding or not worth all the extra cost to try to get a have running on S for an Xbox release, or games will get nerfed from the early development stage, unless Microsoft lighten up on their parity requirements.

acastcandream,

Yeah but not everyone is going to be in Larian’s position, and those with that kind of clout also stand to lose out a lot of revenue they clearly wanted in the first place.

stopthatgirl7,
!deleted7120 avatar

So they’ll most likely decide to completely remove features from the Xbox releases rather than try to get them to work on S, which will lead to worse gaming options on the Xbox. Which Sony will absolutely love.

acastcandream,

🤷‍♂️

deegeese,

The strength of consoles as a development target is that there is only a single hardware configuration you need to support.

Microsoft squandering that advantage in order to hit a lower price point was a gift to Sony that will keep on giving.

InvertedParallax,

They could have cheaped on the soc, reduced some minor detail rendering.

Screwing with ram size is moronic.

stopthatgirl7,
!deleted7120 avatar

RAM feels like it’s the one thing they really shouldn’t have skimped out on, because that’s the one that’s going to affect longevity the most.

violetsareblue,

While also being one of the least expensive components, if the trend for consoles follows the price patterns for pc parts.

YourFavouriteNPC,
@YourFavouriteNPC@feddit.de avatar

Which isn’t to say that Sony hasn’t been actively trying to ruin their reputation all by themselves over the last 1-2 years. This whole console generation has mostly been about both companies getting just a little too comfortable and screwing over their customers in the process.

stopthatgirl7, (edited )
!deleted7120 avatar

Oh trust, I’m complete aware of how badly Sony has been effing it up, so much that I’ve gone from being a strictly PS console gamer to a PC gamer.

Pxtl, do gaming w It shouldn’t be this hard to play old Armored Core games
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

If you’re trying to do it legally, you can easily to rip your own ps1 games with a drive bay. Haven’t tried it on PS2 or ps3 games. And ps1 emulation runs amazing on phones and raspberry pis.

So my ps1 emulation collection is pretty legit.

We shall not speak of the other consoles.

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