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Deestan, do games w Dead Rising remaster will make Frank West less of a creep

Thank fuck. Those parts of the game were grating.

ramble81, do games w Final Fantasy 1-6 Pixel Remaster games 20% off through this weekend

Am I the only one who thinks those prices are still too high for 25+ year old titles? Don’t get me wrong, absolutely love the games, but this “discount” feels closer to what it should be.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

All 6 games bundled for 30 dollar/euro would be fine.

sigmaklimgrindset,

Am I hallucinating, because there was definitely a bundle that had all 6 remasters that I got… for $50 in 2022 I wanna say? All 6 are in my library and there is no way I spent $25x6 (or whatever the price is, I know FF I and II are lower in price).

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

You’re not. There’s a bundle but for a collection of 16 bit games from the 1990s, 50 dollars is too much, IMHO.

sigmaklimgrindset,

They aren’t though? They’re not ports, they’re partial rebuilds of the games in Unity with native resolution support, new pixel art, full arrangement of most of the music, and huge QoL and gameplay improvements/modernization.

I’m not a huge fan of SqEnix’s money grabbing (see: literally any of their FF gatcha content), but the Pixel remasters are one of the few that are actually worth it…at $50 for the whole bundle. Not $25/ remastered game.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

They aren’t though? They’re not ports, they’re partial rebuilds of the games in Unity with native resolution support, new pixel art, full arrangement of most of the music, and huge QoL and gameplay improvements/modernization.

Call them what you want, I recently paid 15 Euro for 62 1990s Capcom games. 30 for 6 Square games would be fine, given the bigger scope.

sigmaklimgrindset,

Ok but again, are they ports or did new content go into it? Did a whole new soundtrack and full orchestral recording go into your 60 Capcom games? There IS a labour difference between adding new/upscaling the content vs porting it to new hardware and calling it a day.

Saying “call it what you want” is pretty disrespectful to the people actually working on modernizing these games (I’m one of those people).

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Ok but again, are they ports or did new content go into it? Did a whole new soundtrack and full orchestral recording go into your 60 Capcom games? There IS a labour difference between adding new/upscaling the content vs porting it to new hardware and calling it a day.

Then give me a bundle without all that crap. Now I’m emulating the games and you get no money on top of what I paid for the SNES originals back in the day. I’d happily pay again for some convenience but not 70 Euro for six 30 years old games.

Saying “call it what you want” is pretty disrespectful to the people actually working on modernizing these games (I’m one of those people).

The cost is very disrespectful to us customers.

jay, (edited )
@jay@mbin.zerojay.com avatar

Absolutely not alone on that. Square Enix's prices on all their old titles are about 50% more than I'm willing to drop on them at any given time.

radix,
@radix@lemmy.world avatar

Square 🤝 Nintendo
Charging 2-3x too much for games you already bought.

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

Original price of $10 each feels about right. They put work into the graphics, music, and bug fixes. But stripped out all the additional content of later releases.

$18 for one of these games is ludicrous. I would have preferred to just pay for the older version that they removed from the app stores.

Etterra,

I totally agree. I recently bought on sale Final Fantasy 1 for mobile, mostly because I didn’t feel like digging out my PlayStation and putting in one of the original remastered disks. To be honest, the load times were pretty long on a kind of it being PS1. But the prices they’re asking for for all of these remasters are excessive. Also some of them have 3D instead of pixel sprites; FF4:TAY in particular was ruined that way. You know what I’d like to see; all of the newer Final Fantasy is done in pixel art style. Like from 7 onward. That would be fun.

ShinkanTrain, (edited ) do games w Final Fantasy 1-6 Pixel Remaster games 20% off through this weekend

I’d argue there are better ways to play all of these except maybe FFIII (Japanese FFIII, not VI)

Do note that I’m a weird person though, if you just want to play the games, those versions are fine and effortless

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I can’t speak for the other, but in my opinion the Woolsey Uncensored version is the best way to play FFVI.

ShinkanTrain,

I use the Woolsey translation as part of Dancing Mad, which compiles a lot of stuff and gives you the option to use MSU1 for CD quality tracks.

I use the Synthetic Origins tracks by Matthew Valente which tries to be as close to the original as possible while using uncompressed samples.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Great tip, I’ll look into it for my next playthrough!

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t like that they stripped out all of the extra content that the other releases added.

BenVimes,

As I said in another topic, this is the only way to play FF3 in its original form (or at least close to it) and in a language other than Japanese, outside of emulation. The DS remake is fine, but it is definitely a different experience.

MelonYellow, do games w Final Fantasy 1-6 Pixel Remaster games 20% off through this weekend
@MelonYellow@lemmy.ca avatar

Sale goes for iOS and Android too

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

The PS1 games on Android are also 50% off. Although on my device, I can’t buy them directly because it’s “not compatible”. But I can buy it on an older device, and it will be available for download.

GammaGames, do gaming w Call of Duty finally comes to Game Pass with Modern Warfare 3 release

Wow, right after a price hike? Who could’ve seen that coming!

Megaman_EXE,

They rose the price of the game?

GammaGames,

They raised prices for gamepass and made it so the lower tiers don’t include day 1 releases

Megaman_EXE,

Ohhh dammit. Of course. Man that sucks. Thank you for clarifying!

I was hoping they would make gold cheaper because that’s really all that I need. But of course they tack on every other thing and then raise prices even more.

As a rental service game pass is great. But at regular price it is too much for me. I’m gona miss converting 3 years of gold to ultimate, though, lol. I’ll be going back to the cheapest tier when I run out.

PhAzE,

Wait, they made a new ‘standard’ level, but don’t those grandfathered in with the ‘console’ tier still get day 1 releases?

GammaGames,

They do! Better than nothing

PhAzE,

Ok cool, then I don’t need to cancel my gamepass yet

DoucheBagMcSwag, do gaming w Call of Duty finally comes to Game Pass with Modern Warfare 3 release

And I still won’t play it. Not after how the campaign ended

savvywolf, do gaming w New Nintendo Switch accessory might confirm some leaked details about Switch 2
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

Could have just gone through some planning hell and was originally intended to be released a few years ago.

As an aside: Magnets to attach the joycons seem miserable.

theangriestbird,

As an aside: Magnets to attach the joycons seem miserable.

How so? It doesn’t sound revolutionary, but it does at least sound like an improvement over the current plastic rails system?

averyminya,

It would be too bad to lose the backwards compatibility for all those special edition Joycons. Not that I expect them to, though it would be within Nintendo’s track record.

theangriestbird,

well the rumor at the moment is that the new console will be backwards compatible with the old joycons. they won’t attach to the new console, but you will still be able to connect and play with old joycons.

averyminya,

Oh I definitely will figured the Bluetooth would connect still, so pro controllers are fine. I was more thinking of the physical connection aspect since playing in bed is a little awkward with the removed Joycons and the kickstand set. Still nice though, especially if you have one of those mounted tablet stands.

I’m just thinking of all the LoZ and Animal Crossing Joycons that will now be relegated to the sheathe holder and a docking charger (or one of the fancy ones with USB to charge)

theangriestbird,

That’s fair! I mean I have Animal Crossing ones, and they’re not really that special, just unique colors. Other thing to consider is stick drift - if you’ve had your special edition Joycons for awhile, they may be on their way out pretty soon…

averyminya,

Yeah definitely lol. I got very lucky, my near-launch day switch joycon sets I got only has one left joycon that started drifting last year. I have no idea how they lasted that long cause I used all my controllers pretty heavily.

Now they sit on the charging dock next to the switch, next to the Steam Deck that actually gets used… Lol

savvywolf,
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

I guess I don’t have much faith in the ability for magnets to stick well enough to the console.

theangriestbird,

so far all we have is rumors, but i think the stuff i read said that they would be theoretically stronger than the plastic rails, at least from forces from specific angles. They’re supposed to use this new kind of electromagnet tech where it only needs a small burst of energy to activate or deactivate the magnet. Time will tell if Nintendo can actually pull that off, but it sure would be neat!

KairuByte,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I dunno, I’ve played with magnets that have the ability to pull their way through my hand before, so it’ll all come down to implementation. Sounds more reliable than some plastic.

Eggyhead, do gaming w New Nintendo Switch accessory might confirm some leaked details about Switch 2

I’m surprised at how little I am actually interested in the switch 2 but for the prospect of more Metroid prime and Zelda.

SnotFlickerman, do gaming w Polygon - Was Bioshock Infinite good?
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I honestly felt it was weaker than both Bioshock and System Shock 2. It was stronger than Bioshock 2, but I mean… that doesn’t take a lot.

Both System Shock 2 and Bioshock built the game systems first and foremost to be fun and engaging, and then wrote an engaging story around those mechanics. Bioshock was literally taking dumbed down systems from System Shock 2 and rewriting a more engaging and thoughtful story around the familiar systems. Bioshock Infinite seemed much more like they had a story idea first and then tried to adapt Bioshock-esque gameplay hamfistedly stapled onto said story. The others feel like the gameplay came first, and the story evolved naturally to align with the gameplay.

Games like Neir Automata really show where a synthesis of game systems design and game story design are really important and become even more impactful to the story, and in this Bioshock Infinite failed in comparison to earlier installments in the series (and its spiritual predecessor, System Shock 2).

I feel like it’s hard to talk about Bioshock as a series at all without discussing System Shock 2, because that’s where Levine first pioneered his story with the engaging antagonist who speaks to you through a radio, and Bioshock is where he refined it into what comes close to literature. Bioshock Infinite marks a regression, more worried about the story that Levine wanted to tell than the gameplay to support it. Due to that the story falls flat, feels stilted, and Levine’s generic take of “everyone can be a bad guy” feels hollow, because it’s not backed up by compelling gameplay that supports it.

As McLuhan put it, “the medium is the message” and video games inherently work better through a synthesis of gameplay and story, without one dominating over the other. Games that lean too far in one direction or the other (Metal Gear Solid’s interminably long cut-scenes for instance) take you too far out of the gaming medium and too far into other, more detached mediums.

godzilla_lives,

As McLuhan put it, “the medium is the message” and video games inherently work better through a synthesis of gameplay and story, without one dominating over the other. Games that lean too far in one direction or the other (Metal Gear Solid’s interminably long cut-scenes for instance) take you too far out of the gaming medium and too far into other, more detached mediums.

Absolutely banger take, I agree completely. Games have a difficult needle to thread, unlike a book or movie that can be strictly narrative-based, a video game has to somehow give the player enough agency while taking it away to allow the story to progress. And now I have DND on the mind again.

I’m reminded of a comment my older brother made about Final Fantasy X, all those years ago. He described it as basically playing a movie. Go figure, I liked the cutscenes!

SnotFlickerman,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I came back because I read a bunch about Levine’s new game, Judas… and it sounds like his approach to Judas is exactly what I’m asking for.

He talks about “narrative legos” a lot while developing this game, and I think that’s the kind of thing he really needed to implement to be able to tell the story he actually wanted to tell.

I found one interview (already forgot which one) where he described Bioshock Infinite’s linear story as holding him back, and that’s part of why it’s a weaker installment, because it can’t change the story in response to your actions. That’s clearly what Levine was trying to do with stuff like the choice of harvesting of the Little Sisters or not, or in Infinite, choosing to be a racist piece of shit or not. He was held back technologically, and I think the “narrative legos” idea is why Judas languished so long in development hell.

Here’s hoping Levine learned his lessons this time around.

SteposVenzny, do gaming w New Nintendo Switch accessory might confirm some leaked details about Switch 2

New peripherals coming out late in a system’s life isn’t unusual.

theangriestbird,

New first-party peripherals, with less than a year left on the console in question? Idk, the only other one that comes to mind is PS4 back button attachment, and that was also puzzling, then and still.

SteposVenzny,

I went to look for examples and didn’t find as many as I expected. It’s not unheard of but you’re right, it’s notably uncommon.

CharlesReed, do gaming w Polygon - Was Bioshock Infinite good?
@CharlesReed@kbin.run avatar

I think the main drawback for me was how unlikable I found Booker and Elizabeth to be. It didn't help that Elizabeth would start talking every time I tried to listen to a voxophone. I remember having to take a break from the game after attempting to listen to one 3 or 4 times, but she wouldn't stop talking.
I really like the gameplay though. I'll boot up Infinite every once in a while to play Clash in the Clouds.

Kory, (edited ) do gaming w Polygon - Was Bioshock Infinite good?
@Kory@lemmy.ml avatar

The game itself was for me mid - not good not bad, but the ending? I can’t believe no one mentioned it yet, that was the most impressive ending I’ve experienced in a game ever. Without spoilers, for those who played it, the piano notes and then darkness, I couldn’t believe it, it was so good.

NigelFrobisher, do gaming w Polygon - Was Bioshock Infinite good?

They could figure this out more easily by simply playing the game and deciding if they enjoyed it or not.

TheUnicornOfPerfidy, do gaming w Polygon - Was Bioshock Infinite good?

The first game I played that really wanted to talk about racism and it decided to spend it’s time saying is “black people can be bad too”. I didn’t think much of it then and I don’t now.

TheRealCharlesEames, do gaming w Polygon - Was Bioshock Infinite good?

Uhh I really enjoyed it

godzilla_lives,

That’s great! I remember myself enjoying the gameplay a lot, and it ran surprisingly well on my PC at the time. Any thoughts beyond that, anything about the article specifically? The article isn’t over here saying, “This award-winning game was bad!” it’s more so trying to take a closer look at the story and themes of the game as a whole from a 2024 perspective and how our current world can reflect them. Though to be fair ™, it is definitely meant to be a click-bait article that’s part of a greater “Spicey Takes” section.

TheRealCharlesEames,

Was pretty obviously clickbait, so I didn’t read it, and still don’t plan to even after you provided that additional context. I’m afraid that I added all that I could, sorry.

godzilla_lives,

Then why even comment? I’m sorry, I don’t understand. Have a good day!

TheRealCharlesEames,

I had a gut reaction to the headline. Lemmy is small and people get mad if you don’t contribute. And maybe a little to troll you since you reposted because you didn’t like the original threads comments ;)

Have a FANTASTIC day

alyaza,
@alyaza@beehaw.org avatar

don’t do this

TheRealCharlesEames, (edited )

Huh Not sure what I’m not supposed to be doing

Caligvla,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

At this point just assume that anything even slightly not “wholesome” is going to be deleted by the mods here. I wouldn’t be surprised if this comment also got deleted for pointing that out.

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