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BlackLaZoR, do games w Bethesda Game Studios developers form 'wall to wall' union that includes artists, designers, and programmers
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Their games are shit - Starfailed was garbage, Fallout 3 and 4 are running on the same engine designed for... Oblivion 20 years ago. They can't write jack shit, and the optimization is a joke.

I hope they go bankrupt

Weslee,

I think their games are great. And I think the Creation Engine is great, the amount of immersion I get and amount of hours I spend playing fallout, oblivion, Skyrim, morrowind is second to none. The mod support is endless, they were in a league of their own when it came to RPGs

Granted they have slipped a little (okay alot) lately but that doesn’t take away from their past works.

meco03211,

You can think the creation engine is great, but there are simple issues that should have been fixed decades ago they’ve completely ignored. At this point it should be considered an insult to the player base that there needs to be the “unofficial patch” for all games. It would take more time and effort arguing against fixing them, than actually fixing them.

Weslee,

I was under the impression that 99.99% of fixes in the unofficial patches were gameplay related things, not underlying issues with the engine.

I also feel like if every game had the player count and mod support of Bethesda games, they would all have unofficial patches. No game is perfect and bug free, I know Bethesda games are buggier than most, but they are also way more ambitious and have way more content than most (I’m talking pre-starfield here, I haven’t gone back to starfield like I still go back to fallout and elder scrolls)

meco03211,

Gameplay related things on each game is an engine issue. The fixes have already been completed in unofficial patches. It would be pretty much a copy/paste fix in the engine. They have just opted not to.

Weslee,

A misplaced mesh, missing quest dialogue, or invalid NPC navmesh is not an engine issue and is specific to each individual game, these things can’t be fixed in the engine

Bernie_Sandals,
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It would be pretty much a copy/paste fix in the engine. They have just opted not to.

You either misunderstood the comment you’re replying to or don’t know how the unofficial patch works or both.

99% of what the Unnofficial patch fixes have absolutely nothing to do with the engine. For example, we’ll use the Skyrim Unnoficial Patch, easily the biggest and most popular. It fixes literally nothing in the engine, it fixes certain models not having textures wrapped correctly, it fixes certain meshes or textures having small errors like clipping, it adds a new flag for a town that didn’t have a flag in the original for some reason, the absolute closest it gets to an “engine fix” is fixes for different scripts that sometimes fire incorrectly.

Literally none of these are engine issues or fixes. Sure, they definitely should’ve fixed them before releasing the game, but it’s not like these are engine issues that have somehow persisted for 20 years. They’re very small bugs with models, textures, and scripts, which are all individual game issues, not engine issues.

BlackLaZoR,
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Creation Engine is great

It's objectively not. It was great back when Oblivion came out

oblivion, Skyrim, morrowind

Back then their games were good. But it was long, long time ago.

Bernie_Sandals,
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It’s objectively not. It was great back when Oblivion came out

It objectively is for their use case. What do you want them to do? Switch to Unreal? Switch to Unity? Switch to any other pre-built engine? They can’t, none of those will work for their use case without major modification.

Want them to create an entirely new engine from scratch? I mean, they could do that, but that would involve throwing away 20 years of innovation and experience on this product and would delay any projects massively.

Want them to massively update their engine? They just did with Starfield’s Creation Engine 2.0, which fixed or improved 90% of their engine issues and is a massive overhaul of their original engine.

This is a company that recently sold for several billion dollars, they’ve undoubtedly had a team investigating what they could to do their engine for at least a decade, and they’ve decided that this path is the only realistic one for them.

But I’m sure you know better than the large team that does this for a living. /s

BlackLaZoR,
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What do you want them to do? Switch to Unreal?

Yep. Unreal is more than capable doing everything they need

They just did with Starfield's Creation Engine 2.0, which fixed or improved 90% of their engine issues

It's the most unoptimized engine out there. It's performance is horrible. And Starfield couldn't even achieve loading screen free planet surface landing like No Man's Sky, or Star Citizen

Weslee,

Out of curiosity, which engine would you say is your favourite? If Bethesda were going to start using a new engine tomorrow, which engine would you hope they would use?

BlackLaZoR,
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If they had to switch now? Unreal Engine.

But what they should do years ago, is to use engineering expertise of IdSoftware they own to create their own engine tailored to their needs.

misterdoctor,

“I don’t personally like their games so I hope all of the hundreds of employees working on them lose their jobs and their families are devastated by life changing hardship”

I think you missed the exit for Reddit, it was back there a ways.

zerog_bandit,

Can you take your shit back to reddit please?

corbin,

“Fortnite and Tekken 8 are running on the same engine designed for… Unreal Tournament 20 years ago.”

runjun, do gaming w A follow-up to the legendary Disco Elysium might have been ready to play within the next year⁠—ZA/UM's devs loved it, management canceled it and laid off the team

Truly heartbreaking

PiratePanPan, do games w God of War Ragnarök will require a PSN account to play on PC
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ampersandrew, do games w The RTS genre will never be mainstream unless you change it until it's 'no longer the kind of RTS that I want to play,' says Crate Entertainment CEO
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If you miss that old style of game, that’s fine, but there are probably tons of ways to morph the RTS genre that solves its old problems, finds it more success, and still scratches that itch. I’m quite fond of Cannon Brawl, and Tooth and Tail had its issues but was on the right track.

TheDemonBuer, do gaming w Fallout 4's most popular mods are now ones that remove Bethesda's disastrous 'next gen' update
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I wish I hadn’t installed the update. I was hoping it would make the game run better on the steam deck, but it’s actually worse. I think they’ve increased the graphical fidelity, but it’s come at the expense of the battery. I found a work around to get the game launcher to come up so I could lower the graphics settings to improve battery life, but that doesn’t fix the bugs. They seem to have gotten worse with the update. Never change, Bethesda. Never change.

TheMightyCanuck, do gaming w Fallout 4's most popular mods are now ones that remove Bethesda's disastrous 'next gen' update
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It actually fixed a game breaking crash on Xbox so I’m not gonna complain.

I’m just happy to have the wasteland back

arefx, do gaming w 'Marketing's dead, and I can back this s**t up': Larian's publishing director says players 'just want to be spoken to, and they don't want to be bamboozled'

I’m at least an average intelligence guy, not a genius, but I’m not some compelete idiot. Big game companies treat me like an absolute dumb ass so I don’t bother with their trash (the games are almost always mediocre anyway full of MTX). Just sell me a full working product at a fair price and then charge me for an expansion down the road if you want. Don’t nickel and dime me or promise me.shit I know you can’t deliver. Just talk to me like a human lol

Immersive_Matthew, do gaming w Borderlands 3 community scores a big win for science: 'These players have helped trace the evolutionary relationships of more than a million different kinds of bacteria that live in the human gut'

Wow the trailer in the article for the project was fantastic. What a great project.

ExcursionInversion, do games w Spectator rushes stage at CS2 tournament and gets tackled into trophy, smashing it to pieces
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Now they (CSGOEmpire) had teams, casters, and the TO drop their event.

hltv.org/…/participants-withdraw-from-csgoempire-…

Etterra, do gaming w Phil Spencer blames capitalism for games industry woes: 'I don't get [the] luxury of not having to run a profitable growing business'

Cry more rich boy, your tears are delicious.

bjmllr, do gaming w Phil Spencer blames capitalism for games industry woes: 'I don't get [the] luxury of not having to run a profitable growing business'

phil spencer explains market discipline

thorbot, do games w 'There's almost nobody left': CEO of Baldur's Gate 3 dev Swen Vincke says the D&D team he initially worked with is gone, due to Hasbro layoffs

CEO is aptly named, at least.

naticus,

I kept trying to figure out the joke about the name Swen Vincke and was failing. Cocks. It was right there in front of me everyone. It was Cocks.

MalachaiConstant,

Hasbro CEO Chris Cocks, for those of us who can’t help but read comments before reading articles

_haha_oh_wow_, do gaming w 'Today is the end of Steam': Argentina and Turkey floored by new Steam price hikes as high as 2900%
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I’ll cry for you, Argentina.

nottheengineer, do gaming w 'Today is the end of Steam': Argentina and Turkey floored by new Steam price hikes as high as 2900%

It was already discovered that that was a big and game devs need to fix it manually for now.

shanie,
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This has been planned for months and every Turkish friend I talked to said “if you want anything from Steam before the end of the month I’ll gift it to you, just send the $3” so no, it’s not a bug.

darq,
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In my experience that loophole has not worked for a long time. I have never been able to redeem gifts from friends in a low-cost region while I'm outside of the country. Even though my Steam account is also based in that same region.

Fedizen, (edited ) do games w 505 Games' parent company lays off 30% of its workforce, says gamers really only want sequels so that's what it's going to make

sequels of what?

My highest play time game is probably minecraft, and my recent go-to is slay the spire.

Sequels are seen as safer profits (there is an existing market) so they get more investment and more investment tends to make better games.

This doesn’t mean its what people want, it just means that name recognition means its cheaper to market a hit game with previous versions acting as a marketing boost. Its a feedback loop.

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