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Krafting, do gaming w Spectator rushes stage at CS2 tournament and gets tackled into trophy, smashing it to pieces
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pendulum_, do games w Spectator rushes stage at CS2 tournament and gets tackled into trophy, smashing it to pieces
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Oof, and the organiser of this stunt isn’t just doubling down, or tripling down, he’s quadrupling down on it.

What an idiotic hill to die on

malloc,

Negative attention is PR, never the less. It will drag on in courts. Probably pay a small fine but the $$$ from publicity stunt to outweigh court fine

LethargyTheGhost,

This hasn’t always been the case, valve has taken action before to ruin gambling sites and the attention could negatively affect them

VonReposti,

According to Danish law they are risking 6 months of jail time (or 6 years under “particularly aggravating circumstances” but I don’t think that’s relevant), so not just money. The destroyed trophy, even though they weren’t directly aiming for it, a good lawyer might go after them on grounds of vandalism which is up to 1 year and 6 months under normal circumstances (disclaimer: I havent’t seen the video).

So far I don’t think there’s much precedence on it so it is hard to predict the outcome. Usually you wouldn’t get the highest punishment for a first offence, so if it is jail time I’d be surprised if it’s more than a month. But a jail punishment will haunt your criminal record for 5 years while a fine will stay with you for 2 years, which is actually the the worst part if you have anything but a low-level job in Denmark.

acosmichippo, do games w Spectator rushes stage at CS2 tournament and gets tackled into trophy, smashing it to pieces
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what in the ever living fuck is a skin gambling site, and why do they have beef.

Lanusensei87,
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CS is awash with gambling websites that let you bet on the outcome of a match and potentially win some weapon skins. As for the reasons for the stunt, it’s explained in the article.

mindbleach, do gaming w Spectator rushes stage at CS2 tournament and gets tackled into trophy, smashing it to pieces

Not the usual way fee-based gaming and gambling sites ruin games for everyone, but it is definitely on-brand.

haui_lemmy,

CS2 is infintely worse imo than CS:GO. Yes, the maps got updated but local multiplayer works way worse and the bots are a laughable mess. Took me days to get working properly on debian too.

catloaf, do games w Spectator rushes stage at CS2 tournament and gets tackled into trophy, smashing it to pieces

Everything about this is stupid, but breaking the trophy isn’t his fault. They knocked him over in a way that made him hit the trophy stand.

fmstrat,

Then who is at fault? Security? For doing their job? They wouldn’t be on stage if he hadn’t broken the rules. It wasn’t over-use of force, from the looks of things, just unfortunate placement.

Saying the resulting damages aren’t his fault is like forgiving the person who caused a pile-up for driving reckless.

Mesophar,

Yes, the trophy was security’s fault because it was from excessive force. He was already restrained! I’m not saying the guy wasn’t in the wrong for climbing on stage, but people climb on stages all the time without security breaking the centerpiece of the event while apprehending them.

Patquip,

The security guy who pulled him down towards the trophy sure seemed to cause the trophy to get knocked over though. The stagerusher was pretty far away before that.

Freeman,

You sound so very american lol.

malloc, do games w Spectator rushes stage at CS2 tournament and gets tackled into trophy, smashing it to pieces

The response time to that “rush” was god awful. This is what happens when you pick the bottom of the barrel security agency to do event sec work

Delphia,

The problem with event sec (and I ran large events for a decade) is that organisers often dont treat you like you’re anything but a bunch of fuckwits and dont tell you anything about planned stunts or anything beyond “Dont let anyone past this point without a pass” asking questions and wanting to be in the loop often gets you told to “do your job” which is why I was very anal retentive about what was and wasnt our responsibility in our contracts and what we were/werent liable for. Often the “talent” or people attending will decide they want to do something off script and you have to take a moment to decide wether or not to crash tackle someone somewhere they shouldnt be who might also be a keynote speaker or the headlining artists manager… its almost always a shitshow of not enough info. I have a lovely story about a bass player for a band not wearing a lanyard and starting a fight with two of the security when they wouldnt let him back stage… theres an NDA involved though because he broke one staff members cheekbone before getting knocked the fuck out.

The absolutely idiotic part was taking him to the ground, that outnumbered and not being aggressive it was unnecessary. Once it goes to the ground it almost always turns into a shitshow.

Linkerbaan, do games w Spectator rushes stage at CS2 tournament and gets tackled into trophy, smashing it to pieces
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The guy already stopped by himself and they decided to smash him into the trophy

Counter-Strike skin betting platform CSGOEmpire has claimed responsibility for the stunt. “Some of our men are on the ground in handcuffs,” wrote CSGOEmpire founder Monarch on X after the incident. “But we fucking did it, boys.”

Why do skin betting sites claim responsibility for stupid stunts as if they’re doing terrorist attacks

Rentlar,

Stupid stunt notwithstanding, the Counter Strike game is about terrorists vs. counter-terrorists so it’s at least thematically on point?

Linkerbaan,
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So is this a T win?

Rush B no stop always works.

CrowAirbrush,

It also creates media attention, which is a plus i’m guessing.

essteeyou, do games w Spectator rushes stage at CS2 tournament and gets tackled into trophy, smashing it to pieces

Here’s a video of it. I couldn’t see anything on the linked website.

Sizzler,

That hot-headed old guy in the leather jacket is the reason.

simple,

The guy that tackled him into the trophy will remember that for the rest of his life. Ouch.

saltesc, do gaming w Spectator rushes stage at CS2 tournament and gets tackled into trophy, smashing it to pieces

Counter-Strike skin betting platform CSGOEmpire has claimed responsibility for the stunt. “Some of our men are on the ground in handcuffs,” wrote CSGOEmpire founder Monarch on X after the incident. “But we fucking did it, boys.”

Monarch says that the stunt was a protest of alleged “scams” by competitor CSGORoll, which it fired accusations at in a blog post titled “The Wars We Wage.” In a post last summer, CSGORoll said that unnamed “malicious competitors” were targeting it with a “hate campaign.”

“These malicious competitors have engaged in a hate campaign against us, and claim that we are running ‘scam websites,’” the site said. “We do not know their motive, but we suspect that it is a personal vendetta, based on a grudge and is designed to try and harm our business and gain a competitive advantage for themselves.”

Kill me if I ever become this petty and all I can see in the world worth protesting is this.

KingThrillgore, do gaming w Spectator rushes stage at CS2 tournament and gets tackled into trophy, smashing it to pieces
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The CS2 community going out of its way to out cringe the FGC

onlinepersona, do gaming w Spectator rushes stage at CS2 tournament and gets tackled into trophy, smashing it to pieces

Way to destroy your own event 🧠 What a community.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

ExcursionInversion, do games w Spectator rushes stage at CS2 tournament and gets tackled into trophy, smashing it to pieces
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Now they (CSGOEmpire) had teams, casters, and the TO drop their event.

hltv.org/…/participants-withdraw-from-csgoempire-…

Minotaur, do games w The System Shock remake is getting a massive patch with a revised ending, choice of female player character '8 years in the making', and a significant quality of life improvement

Perplexing, but nice to see!

It’s a really great and faithful remake - but I feel like I heard so little about it that I’m so confused to see new endings and player characters come out for it now months later.

Hoping it has some second wind with the general gaming crowd. Seems like it got overshadowed by RE4 and the latest Zelda game and never hit it off with that kind of TikTok, game of the month crowd

Gullible,

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightdive_Studios

The studio seems pretty cool. Seems outwardly like they care more about accessibility and quality than short-term profits.

Kolanaki,
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I’ve heard that it’s still by and large like the original game in many areas, so I could see it not hitting with that crowd. But among the old geezers like myself who never stopped playing the old stuff, it’s got nothing but praise. Personally haven’t played it (or even the original game for that matter; only ever had SS2) but both look amazing, and I want to play it.

I have a lot of other remake games and engine ports from Night Dive and almost all of them are absolutely phenomenal.

Carighan,
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Yeah I was super-positively surprised by how faithful it was, loved replaying it.

And sure the ending fight was weird, but also, the “proper” ending fight was the room before that. So it felt complete in that regard, the last bit was just finishing off the game. Like in Crysis Warhead when you get the final gun, at that point it’s already won, just about finishing it off.

Curious to see what they’re changing.

EveningPancakes, do games w The System Shock remake is getting a massive patch with a revised ending, choice of female player character '8 years in the making', and a significant quality of life improvement

How about fixing cloud saves between PC and Steam Deck?

Carighan,
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That’s probably on Steam, not Nightdive? After all it’s just uploading some files and downloading them again, something the steam client is supposed to do for you.

anyhow2503,

Cloud saves work fine between Linux PCs, but the devs seem to have misconfigured the save path for Steam cloud saves integration on Windows. That’s why it doesn’t work. That’s on the devs, not the Steam client. Apparently they were working on a fix since about half a year ago, maybe they finally released that fix now?

vikingtons,
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I think there’s mention of it in the release notes for 1.2?

EveningPancakes,

Nope, it’s a bug with how Nightdive coded the save path. Since they made a native Linux version of the game, Steam is using that as opposed to doing Proton compatibility. So that means the save paths in the Linux version and the Windows version aren’t the same, hence not syncing properly.

steamcommunity.com/app/…/3833172326398336232/

TurboHarbinger,

How about fixing the achievements too.

Immersive_Matthew, do gaming w Larian publishing director on mass layoffs: 'None of these companies are at risk of going bankrupt. They were just at risk of pissing off the shareholders'

In my opinion game studios should not sell out to investors and/or have any stocks as it will lead to profit making the calls eventually. It is tempting to get a bunch of investment, I know it would make my game studio easier to run right now, but then you are constantly reminded how it all ends up. Don’t like the system, stop playing in it and build your company slowly and organically instead and retain full control.

Same goes for many businesses outside of gaming. Imagine if there was no such thing as the stock market / investors and all companies had to grow on their own merits.

In my virtual studio everyone is their own sole proprietorship contributing to the project off and on and getting compensated fairly for their contributions. They also have their own projects too and may even pay me to help them sometimes. This way everyone assumes their own risk and reaps their own benefits. If any one person on the virtual team has a hit with their project, they retain full control and owe no money back to some shareholders who did nothing but lend money to make money. It does mean I am way slower than if I could just hire everyone full time as employees, but knowing where having investors will ultimately take me, I accept. Plus going slower means more time to sit on things and polish and not feel time pressure to appease shareholders.

Shareholders are a little like getting a loan and depending on how successful you are, you have to pay back more than you borrowed and giving them control on your art. No thanks.

fckreddit,

The CEOs of these investor funded companies have forgotten that investors are not their customers, gamers are. This will hurt them in the long run because they are pissing off their customer base, people who really given them money to appease their shareholders. It never ends well for the companies.

jmcs,

The investors are the ones forgetting that. CEOs work for the investors not for the customers.

Now, a good CEO will be able to manage upwards and throw around things like reputational damage and consumer trust to convince to keep the investors focused on the long term in order to protect the company (and the investors uhh… investment). The problem in the gaming industry is that time and time again gamers show that there’s no such thing as reputational damage with games since there are enough people building their personality around a gaming franchise that even studios with a reputation for consistently putting out mediocre unoriginal crap can count on a mountain of pre-orders.

MajorHavoc,

Exactly. The last year of news full of mistreating game developers caused my to retune my news feeds and Steam wishlist to completely exclude all triple A titles.

There’s years and years worth of great gameplay I haven’t experienced yet in the Indie game market.

I suspect I’m not alone in that.

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