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paraphrand, do games w After stretching the definition of 'beta' for 8 years, Escape From Tarkov is finally hitting 1.0

There is no limit to the stretching that can be done. There are many games stretching farther. I don’t think we have seen the limit yet.

AkatsukiLevi,
@AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world avatar

Star citizen

echodot,

Star citizen isn’t an example of an open beta that got stretched out. It’s an example of a scam.

A game of similar scope to star citizen is starship simulator, except that isn’t a scam and, oh look, it’s making surprisingly better progress (there still isn’t anything to actually do in it yet but it’s much further along in much shorter period of time). You can tell it isn’t a scam because people aren’t being asked to pay extra to access some more unfinished content.

nova_ad_vitum,

The limit is when people stop rewarding this behaviour by giving them money. So yeah no sign of hitting it.

Ashiette, do games w After stretching the definition of 'beta' for 8 years, Escape From Tarkov is finally hitting 1.0

Talk about Star Citizen

Jules451_,

Came here to find this comment, glad I wasn’t disappointed lol.

But tbf you can’t really compare the scope of the two games, other than maps how much has EFT actually changed in that span of time?

Truscape,

Quite a bit, honestly as a regular player of the single-player mod, content and mechanic wise things have gotten way better.

It’s honestly the execution of matchmaking, server performance (or lack thereof), and certain balance choices holding the game back. Other than that it’s really solid, and if you mod, you can solve all 3 of those problems.

Arondeus,

What is the situation with regards to cheaters like in this game?

Truscape,

Because of matchmaking and certain decisions the Devs have made (no post-raid review), it’s very hard to accurately report cheaters or verify if you got killed by one. Due to this, many people prefer playing PVE (so you can experience the current game content without meddling humans), or modded CO-OP/single player with a mod like SPT.

Considering that the cheapest copy of the game is 30-40 USD, and SPT only requires ownership (no “edition” needed), I’d say that entry price is worth it.

Harvey656,
@Harvey656@lemmy.world avatar

As a player of both games, fuck both ‘betas’. Shit gets old waiting for ambitious games.

Rhynoplaz, do games w After stretching the definition of 'beta' for 8 years, Escape From Tarkov is finally hitting 1.0

Isn’t Fortnite still in beta or something?

sepiroth154,

It’s the corporate way of saying “we’re too lazy/cheap to fix any bug, so please lower your standards.”

bagelberger,

I thought Fortnite originally stayed in beta so that they could ship updates to consoles with fewer hurdles. nowadays I have no idea if that’s still a thing

NuXCOM_90Percent,

I would say that most of the “legacy” live games are. Warframe is to the point that the developers, Digital Extremes, outright make fun of it being a 13 year old beta and jokes about what Soulframe counts as these days.

And a lot of it is because they launched into beta/early access/whatever before there was even a model for what that means.

Contrast that with the “newer” games like tarkov that assign milestones to leaving beta. Well, it used to be that leaving beta meant that tarkov would go to Steam but now it mostly is just being done so they can keep releasing expansions/modes without needing to put it in the deluxe preorder edition.

SkyezOpen, do games w After stretching the definition of 'beta' for 8 years, Escape From Tarkov is finally hitting 1.0

GZW is better. Fight me.

Mika, do games w After stretching the definition of 'beta' for 8 years, Escape From Tarkov is finally hitting 1.0

russian 🤮 game

SalamenceFury, (edited ) do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'
@SalamenceFury@lemmy.world avatar

Adding this to the movement nerfs in BO7 (you can’t ADS while sliding, diving and wall jumping anymore unless you use a perk) this whole thing might have made the devs realize that “oh shit nobody likes mega sweaty movement bullshit other than mega sweats”. No wonder BO6 is kind of a ghost town right now.

Those kids aren’t even good at movement, they just abuse the broken movement mechanics. You can tell they’re awful at it because every time they try to play an actual movement shooter like Titanfall 2 whenever it’s on a huge sale or in a free weekend they get their shit rocked and uninstall after one hour. You’ve not experienced an actual movement demon until you try to shoot at a G100 (max prestige) Titanfall 2 pilot who proceeds to dodge your shots effortlessly, hop all around the map without losing an ounce of momentum just to get you from behind, and shoot you down at Mach 11, while all you can do is look up at them like this:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/44befc69-3b01-40e9-a629-828bdd9f29d7.gif

This is an universal experience for every new player on Titanfall 2. And it’s always super funny.

baldingpudenda,

Lol, I played during a free weekend. I can attest that this was my experience.

SalamenceFury,
@SalamenceFury@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, it’s the universal titanfall 2 newbie experience. Really humbles some people lol

saltesc, do games w After stretching the definition of 'beta' for 8 years, Escape From Tarkov is finally hitting 1.0

Genuinely forgot this game existed. I was over it before COVID lockdowns.

DieserTypMatthias, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'
@DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml avatar

Just give them Counter-Strike running speeds with slow walk and with crouch.

Deyis,

You’d run faster with your knife out.

Jayjader, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'

Having never played a battlefield game, having last played COD when MW2 released: good! Not every game in the same genre needs to play the same way, and I suspect it’s healthier this way for the “soldier shooter” genre to propose different kinds of experiences.

MudMan, do gaming w We can't keep making videogame stories for players who aren't paying attention to them

Yeah, I'm gonna say this person doesn't hate to keep knocking on Veilguard, because that seems to be the one example they can bring up. I mean, there's a cursory name check of Dawntrail, but otherwise... yeah, not sure what games this is talking about other than Dragon Age.

Clair Obscur didn't do that. It went to absolute pains to not do that, in fact, to the point where I find the deceptive twist-building a bit over the top, in retrospect. I wouldn't accuse the CDPR games of going that route. Baldur's Gate does overexplain often, but in their defense the game has a million characters, plot points you go through out of order and a runtime in the hundreds of hours, so I wouldn't change that.

What else is even doing this? I feel like we're back in "AAA sucks" territory where AAA stands in for "this one game I didn't like". Writing in games runs the gamut. I would struggle to find a single defining thing to praise or criticise across the board.

Flamekebab, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

Interesting.. I felt like I was the only person that doesn't care for that kind of movement in shooters.

Deyis,

It really depends on the kind of shooter and the average caffeine intake of the people playing it. Works great in Titanfall but doesn’t make sense for Battlefield.

Flamekebab,
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

It feels like an additional layer of mechanics that I didn't sign up for. I used it as necessary when playing Titanfall 2 but didn't care for it there either!

Cevilia, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'

“The Sweaty Movement”

Deyis,

Smells as bad as it sounds.

TabbsTheBat, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'
@TabbsTheBat@pawb.social avatar

Mm movement :3

Venicon, do games w Bungie CEO Pete Parsons retires: With Destiny 2 sentiment at an all-time low and pressure from Sony growing, Parsons has decided it's time to 'pass the torch' and head for an exit
@Venicon@lemmy.world avatar

Might be bitter but I lost interest when I bought Destiny years ago and the main campaign just…stopped. To be continued only when buying DLC. Never spent a penny on them since as I believe a game you buy should be the entire thing end to end with additional content available to purchase. I wanted a main storyline with conclusion.

thejoker954,

I lost interest when I first tried Destiny 2 years after it was 1st released and realized they didn’t seem interested in new players.

Too many storylines merging and diverging before you have any idea whats happening.

It was like reading a book (and it’s series) out of order.

TheFeatureCreature,
@TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca avatar

I stopped playing when I learned the DLC I paid for would be removed and no longer accessible. I already had some growing negative sentiment towards the game at that point but being outright ripped off was the last straw.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yep. I didn’t have a huge issue with them charging for new DLC. If the DLC is good then fine, devs gotta eat.

When they sunset content that I paid for and tell me it’s no longer accessible, that’s when I dropped the game like a hot potato. Should have requested a refund, actually.

TwinTitans, do games w Bungie CEO Pete Parsons retires: With Destiny 2 sentiment at an all-time low and pressure from Sony growing, Parsons has decided it's time to 'pass the torch' and head for an exit
@TwinTitans@lemmy.world avatar

Fucked that company to near death. You do not deserve retirement.

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