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ArchmageAzor, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

It’s basically the “AAAA-game” bit again

Evotech,

AAAA gamers

umbraroze, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'
@umbraroze@slrpnk.net avatar

There aren’t that many Premium™ Gamers®, and trying to pretend that that is, like, a legitimate target demographic to pander to is just sad, folks.

(The funniest gamer influencer backlash I’ve seen lately was against some YouTuber who blew ~$2K on gaming desk and a chair and called it a “minimalist” setup. People at large rightfully went “are you shitting me”.)

Evotech,

I mean minimalism is a style, not your budget

Minimalist != minimal budget

paraphrand, (edited ) do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

Only PCVR titles can even approach saying such things without looking like jerks. And even then, it’s probally counter productive.

An example, for those curious, is Microsoft Flight Simulator.

pressanykeynow,

From my experience graphics doesn’t matter much in VR if FPS is fine. You can play HL Alyx on a what was sometime ago affordable gpu and get almost the same experience as with 5900.

paraphrand,

You made this statement by using the most optimized high end VR title in existence. And the creators of the game their own engine!

Graphics do matter. That’s why you cited Alyx. Right? Because the game is impressive in many ways, graphics being a really big one. Graphics in VR have generally stagnated for the past 5 years since Alyx came out.

Graphics are why the interactions with bottles in that game are so impressive. Just to highlight one small thing.

pressanykeynow,

You have a good point about Alyx. My opinion using VR is that there’s a point with graphics when it feels comfortable, any better doesn’t give much to the experience like if you see pixels your brain just thinks that’s how the world is. I don’t include objects being interactive into graphics here, but what people generally perceive as graphics ie textures, lighting and other stuff you need gpu for. Also there are very few such interactive objects in beat saber or superhot though you still feel being in vr.

Bennyboybumberchums, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

Anyone who bought this game, is a moron. No ifs, no ands, no buts. Randy is a fucking prick, and made no secret of his feelings towards gamers right before the game came out. No one should have spent a single penny on this dogshit.

Surp, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

Unfortunately it doesn’t matter what any of us say…the damage is done. I saw something like 200k online on steam. Unless most of them refund the negative reviews are meaningless. Pretend it was only 200k on steam and they bought just the “shitty” $70 version. …who knows how many bought on other platforms as well. They made a lot of money already is all I’m saying and I wish they didn’t. Games junk.

MonkderVierte, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

Make it perform well, then we can talk premium.

mohab, do gaming w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash

TIL broken is a premium feature 😂

Deyis,

Advanced purchasers get access to a special gamestate: “Fucked”.

mohab,

Conan did a Clueless Gamer playing it and the game crashed halfway through 😂 Not even making it up, it's on YT.

onlooker,
@onlooker@lemmy.ml avatar

Watched it earlier this week, can confirm. Here’s the link.

zebidiah, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

…is he trying to promote the game by acting like one of its shitty characters?

SuperSpruce, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

It’s more akin to trying to drive a semi truck with a semi truck motor but then something drops and there’s a ton of friction like an unintentional tractor pull. Even the best chips on the market display subpar performance.

MrJ199414, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

They toned down the humor, which imo wasn’t the problem they needed to write better jokes, and write better villains.

The entire plot feels like an extra long side mission which is basically, “Go Rescue Lilith.” They have been teasing something “big” is coming and that they need to prepare for war since the pre sequel. We have gotten now two new main installments, two “tales”, and a fucking spin-off since then. Yet they still keep teasing this “big” thing. I wish they’d move the narrative along already.

luciferofastora,

Once that big thing happens, they can no longer milk the anticipation

tigeruppercut, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

I can’t decide if the explanation that “our shitty game is made for premium gamers” is more or less absurd than EA charging 80 bucks for a game with most of its characters still locked would “provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment”.

onlooker, do gaming w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash
@onlooker@lemmy.ml avatar

Another one of his responses to the same topic: "Code your own engine and show us how it’s done, please”

This is their seventh Borderlands game made in Unreal engine. This isn’t some fledgling indie studio that’s still finding its footing around a game engine. They have 1300 employees, they had 6 years to make this and they have 2K Games’ backing. They have no excuse to release a game in this state, but sure. Let’s blame the customers.

Oh, and I just noticed: the game uses Denuvo, because of course it does.

Deyis,

"Code your own engine and show us how it’s done, please”

Don’t need to be a fucking pilot to know that a plane shouldn’t be upside down in the trees.

ChairmanMeow, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'
@ChairmanMeow@programming.dev avatar

It’s poorly optimized UE5 slop. Looks like shit, plays like shit.

Hard pass.

I_Has_A_Hat,

Stop using slop for non-ai things.

T00l_shed,

It’s still slop, just not ai slop.

SaltySalamander,

You're not my real mom.

LongMember69,

Guess my hogs will be going hungry.

psx_crab,

Slop is a real word not made exclusively for ai

Snowpix,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

Slop has existed as a word far longer than AI has. Uses for the word slop include:

  • Unappetizing watery food or soup.
  • Spilled or splashed liquid.
  • Waste food fed to farm animals such as pigs.
  • Soft mud or slosh.
FluffMongo,

no. slop be sloppin whether it’s AI or not.

normalexit, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

I played lots of borderlands 2 with my friends back in the day it was pretty fun.

Three came out, played it for a bit, but it was just more of the same and somehow worse. Then I watched that God awful movie.

I think I’m over the franchise, but maybe here in a few years I’ll pick it up for $5 in a summer sale.

Barbarian,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

I adored the presequel, did so many interesting things. The verticality, stomp attacks and oxygen masks were awesome. Also the low grav meant the maps could be way more varied and interesting.

Waited for the reviews for the third (never pre-order, always wait for reviews!) and it just seemed so… mid. Definitely happy I dropped out of that franchise when I did.

CheeseNoodle,

I found 1 and 2 were games I could both replay at least once. With 2 the only bad bit to replay is bricks area where the devs just spammed a ton of very spongy enemies in a big map. 3 had more fun vault hunters mechanically but even during the first playthrough so much of it feels like filler content (like literally ALL of Hammerlocks area) and the final boss is somehow even more dissapointing than BL1, trying to play through a second time is at least 2/3 “Oh god not this bit again”.

WorldsDumbestMan,

It was out free, but had some spyware or something, so I refused it for free…

zecg, do games w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'
@zecg@lemmy.world avatar

The big problem is how to make it fun for those who are not space nerds. They are making a game for hundreds of thousands of players with a budget of a game for tens of millions. They are getting funded for a feline-shaped bag, once it’s out chances are it’ll be so aggressive, mangy and moody no one will want to play with it. Aiming at a reticle projecting where the enemy will be when the shots land for 30 hours with occassional explanations by hollywood b-listers is not everyone’s cup of space tea.

PieMePlenty,

Yeah… all I wanted was Freelancer 2.
Then I realized, Microsoft had to step in, get rid of Roberts so Freelancer could see the light of day. And it dawned on me, we’re not seeing Freelancer 2 from this guy.

kilgore_trout,

No Man’s Sky is the modern closest to that Star Citizen wants to be.

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