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Blizzard, do gaming w Fallout 4's most popular mods are now ones that remove Bethesda's disastrous 'next gen' update

The title and the article are overdramaric. On PS5 it’s working great. The issue looks to be messing with mods (which had been expected), not breaking the actual game.

I’m not sure what exactly is the point of installing this update on PC other than a questline and some cosmetics? As this update was mainly targeted for consoles to increase framerate and resolution - which it did better than I expected - and PC players could already do that without the update.

JohnBrownsBussy2,
@JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net avatar

A lot of people (myself included) had the update installed automatically by Steam with no option for rollback, so it caught people off guard.

Blizzard,

Ok, that ideed sucks.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Works fine for me on Xbox Series X with the exception of a couple of crashes over the course of 3-5 hours. The only issue I see is this should have been an optional upgrade to give the modders time to fix their stuff.

Blizzard,

I only experienced framerate drop in the prologue (in the house in 2077 and in the Vault) and 1 crash during it. Once I was out in the open world, tha game has been flawless.

The only thing I expected from this update was 60 FPS and - if it’s not too much to ask - higher resolution. They delivered that and more. Game runs smoothly and looks much better than I expected, more detailed (and much better than FO76). They also threw in some new content which I haven’t discovered yet so cannot vouch for it. The Enclave paint look great on everything though.

And remember, this is a free update. So I think people are going a bit too hard on Bethesda this time (I know it’s the trendy thing to do). They pissed me off when they delayed the update just to sync it with the show. But looking back from their perspective it was probably the right call since everyone is now more hyped to play the games.

EDIT: And exactly as you say - modders just need some time to update their mods. But you cannot expect Bethesda to have their update checked for compatibility with every mod out there.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve done some of the enclave mission, it’s not bad.

DebatableRaccoon, do gaming w Fallout 4's most popular mods are now ones that remove Bethesda's disastrous 'next gen' update

Bugthesda tried to patch something and fucked it up? Oh no, I am thoroughly shocked. Definitely didn’t see that coming.

TheMightyCanuck, do gaming w Fallout 4's most popular mods are now ones that remove Bethesda's disastrous 'next gen' update
@TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works avatar

It actually fixed a game breaking crash on Xbox so I’m not gonna complain.

I’m just happy to have the wasteland back

TrickDacy, do gaming w Tarkov studio claims it actually doesn't have the server capacity for everyone who bought the game for $150 to play its upcoming PvE mode, still wants players to pay extra
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Who the fuck is paying $150 for a fucking video game? Sounds like suckers who got scammed

GregorGizeh,

*for a new game mode in an existing game

thesmokingman,

The $150 isn’t for the new game mode. People that paid $150 were told they’d get all DLC. The devs are saying this isn’t DLC and these folks will get it for free once the game is out of early access. People that paid $250 can play this now. People that paid any more will have some level of discount to purchase access to this mode.

It’s all in the article.

SkyezOpen,

Star citizen taught them well.

verdigris,

There’s nothing remotely close to this in SC history. Also full access to SC is actually less than the cheapest Tarkov package.

SkyezOpen,

How much have you pledged?

verdigris,

I think $55 total? $35 for my initial package and I spent $20 a few years ago for a cooler starter ship because I was enjoying the game and wanted to support development. I think the $35 package is now $45 – I bought in on the original Kickstarter – but that price gets you full access to the game and all the ships/hangars/etc… you just don’t start with them, and instead have to earn in-game currency to buy (or rent) them. I wouldn’t want a super expensive starter ship anyway, it skips too much of the early game progression.

SmilingSolaris,

Actually the game mode is on a pack selling for 250$

People who already bought the 150$ price only get a 6 month free trial of the game mode.

Or they pay an extra 100 to upgrade

Kiosade,

$250?! What?! Why??

SmilingSolaris,

Why are you concerned? It still costs 250 but if you already spent 150 then you can get it for 50. All is well

(Kill me)

bastonia,

You did well pig, you did well.

rickyrigatoni,

Rubes.

digdilem,

It’s actually 250 euros for the top tier (267 $us)

I mean, seriously, what the actual fucking fuck?

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

My brother plays games with in app purchases and he claims to know people who have spent $100K on their profiles. I think building a fire using the cash would be less wasteful

mortemtyrannis,

I play hearthstone and spend more than that every 3 months to get a complete set of the expansion (well actually now that I think about it, it’s about $150 every three months or so).

I play a lot so my value to time ratio is pretty good but yeah…I don’t really buy any other games.

GeneralEmergency, do gaming w Fallout 4's most popular mods are now ones that remove Bethesda's disastrous 'next gen' update

It just works.

hexaflexagonbear, do gaming w Fallout 4's most popular mods are now ones that remove Bethesda's disastrous 'next gen' update
@hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net avatar

Bethesda games are just a jobs program for modders at this point

NegativeLookBehind, do gaming w Fallout 4's most popular mods are now ones that remove Bethesda's disastrous 'next gen' update
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

God dammit Todd

BaronVonBort, do gaming w Fallout 4's most popular mods are now ones that remove Bethesda's disastrous 'next gen' update
  • Tries to improve game
  • makes everything significantly worse

Yep, classic Bethesda.

CosmicCleric, (edited ) do gaming w Fallout 4's most popular mods are now ones that remove Bethesda's disastrous 'next gen' update
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

From the article…

The easiest fix is to own the game on GOG, which allows players to roll-back patches, but for Steam owners the process is a whole lot more convoluted.

… and …

A more straightforward perspective came from the team working on the enormous Fallout: London project, which was due to launch around now but has been delayed while the team works around Bethesda’s update. As the project lead says, “[the patch] has, for a lack of a better term, screwed us over.”

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

0xtero, do gaming w Fallout 4's most popular mods are now ones that remove Bethesda's disastrous 'next gen' update

Average Bethesda experience I guess

someguy3, do games w The Divinity: Original Sin board game took 6 years to make because Larian was determined to do right by the series

So, is it good?

woodytrombone,

I have it but I haven’t even taken it out of shrink-wrap because I’m a terrible boardgamer. I’ll let you know in five years once my frosthaven campaign wraps up

simple,

I’ll let you know in five years once my frosthaven campaign wraps up

Frosthaven?! Playing that would imply that I got around to finishing Gloomhaven with my friends.

avater, (edited ) do gaming w Tarkov studio claims it actually doesn't have the server capacity for everyone who bought the game for $150 to play its upcoming PvE mode, still wants players to pay extra
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

They are a Russian Developer with contacts to military units who support the war in Ukraine and also mocked Ukrainian with screenshots in their game…so why expect you no shitty behavior from them?

Stop supporting them and let their game fail.

Sources:

babel.ua/…/80120-escape-from-tarkov-and-war-thund…

ain.capital/…/escape-from-tarkovs-developers-show…

reddit.com/…/escape_from_tarkov_is_full_of_vatnik…

Phegan,

Source? I would love to confirm this. If it’s true I will stop playing instantly

ILikeBoobies,

From what I found they have made no comment other than “they will not leave any markets due to war”

As for being Russian

"We have a mix of talent, some veteran developers, some new to game development. But everyone loves guns and FPS games. One of the studio leads is actually a former Spetsnaz officer, the Russian equivalent of the U.S. Special Forces."

Phegan, (edited )

I am aware they are Russian, and I don’t expect them to actively condemn the invasion, as it would be dangerous for them. If there is proof they were actively supporting the war or mocking Ukraine, that’s a different story.

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

I am aware they aren’t Russian

they are a Russian developer, they moved their office to london but still maintain their office in St. Petersburg

Phegan,

Sorry typo.

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

They moved their office to London (wonder why…) but part of the team still works from their origin in Russian St. Petersburg. And here is what I’ve found:

babel.ua/…/80120-escape-from-tarkov-and-war-thund…

Phegan,

Thank you

avater, (edited )
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

And this happened more than once, so that is a long-term partnership. Buyanov recorded joint videos with Dmitry “Goblin” Puchkov, a Russian translator and blogger known for his anti-Ukrainian stance. And Puchkov himself was a guest at the Battlestate Games studio.

Nikita Buyanov and his company actively partnered with companies in the Russian military-industrial complex. This group actively funds and supplies separatists, they ask for donations to supply their members who are going to fight in Ukraine, they participate in podcasts from occupied cities and Tarkov’s developers prop up their platform by including them (in no small capacity) in their game.

One of the new traders they are planning to add into the game is named “Khokhol” which is an anti-Ukrainian ethnic slur used by russians. There is also a feature in the game where you can become a character called a “Scav” when you become one you are assigned a random russian name, sometimes they are memes like “garandthumb” or “robokop” but in their depravity, there is a chance that your character can be named “Hohol” which you see when you die, or other players see when you kill them.

The developers of Escape from Tarkov, the Russian studio Battlestate Games, have published several new screenshots of the game. As Artem Lys noticed, on one of them the character shows the middle finger to the player in pixel uniform and with yellow tape on his hand, which clearly symbolizes the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

babel.ua/…/80120-escape-from-tarkov-and-war-thund…

ain.capital/…/escape-from-tarkovs-developers-show…

reddit.com/…/escape_from_tarkov_is_full_of_vatnik…

Cowbee, do gaming w Escape From Tarkov dev finally caves, says people who paid $150 for the game will get access to its new mode 'in waves'
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

This is one of the dumbest moves I have ever seen a dev make.

bastonia, do gaming w Tarkov studio claims it actually doesn't have the server capacity for everyone who bought the game for $150 to play its upcoming PvE mode, still wants players to pay extra

Not one of the stupid people whod pay for that. So whats the problem?

Cethin,

The previous most expensive option ($150 I think) included all future DLC. Now they added this game mode and charge $250 for it, and the players who payed extra earlier don’t get it included.

Also, I’d totally return to the game for a while for this mode assuming there aren’t wipes ever. That’s my issue with the game. I don’t like losing all progress every few months. I don’t want to play the game enough at once to reach the end game in that period. I only payed for the standard edition though, and I sure as hell am not paying $250 for this.

DarylDutch,

Look into the SPtarkov mod. It is regretfully only single player but you can just relax and sometimes do a mission or 2. It also has mod support to remove the things about the game you find tiresome.

Every now and again I fire it up and play a map or 2. I have had the same character for over a year now.

kbin_space_program, do gaming w Escape From Tarkov dev finally caves, says people who paid $150 for the game will get access to its new mode 'in waves'

"I'm extra sorry that our lawyer got back to me and said the previous wording we did around the 'all future DLC inclusion' was legally binding and we'd get the pants sued off of us unless we changed course."

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