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SCB, do games w Madden should not be 70$

people should be paid more for their work!

things shouldn’t cost slightly more money!

Gotta pick one chief.

Vordus,

EA chose neither.

SCB,

Do you have a source on that? Because EA pays in the top 20-25% for their market.

www.comparably.com/companies/…/salaries

Vordus,

Part of me wants to argue that the games industry has a long-standing history of under-compensating workers, which makes being within the top 25% not particularly impressive, but instead I’m just going to admit that you caught me ragging on EA with an easy jab.

They did lay off a shed load of workers earlier this year mere days after announcing record profits though. Still, they’re not quite the miserable black hole that they were in the ‘EA Widows’ era when they were forcing unpaid overtime on a straight up illegal level.

orangeboats,

Cut the CEOs’ pay and you’ll be able to get both

SCB,

EAs CEO makes $20MM. They have 13k employees. That’s an $1100 raise, give or take, if you take every penny from the CEO. For the vast majority of their employees, that is less than a 1% raise.

So no, it won’t get you both, in any meaningful sense.

orangeboats,

I am pretty sure we don’t need to raise every employee’s wages. Some of the upper management who sit in their offices biting nails, for example.

The point is to reduce the wage inequality inside a company.

SCB,

So you want to raise the wages of the people making $140k per year but not $170k?

Why?

orangeboats,

Where did you pull those numbers from, then?

Edit: And yes, if you are not productive, you get paid less. That’s the whole point. If you are not 100x productive, you don’t deserve to get 100x the wages of a regular employee too.

SCB,

I googled median EA wages (gave me median, top 75%, etc), EA CEO pay and number of employees at EA and then did division

orangeboats,

If I follow your search terms, the first Google result is this. If the data were to be trusted, then most of the employees are absolutely paid much less than the “top positions”.

If you are taking the CEO’s income literally (without considering their assets), then you are hopeless.

SCB,

Yeah if you don’t work in CS you’re making at or near 100k and the math holds.

Compare the salary ranges with # of employees per role.

SCB,

People do not get paid based on production but based on value.

orangeboats,

And a guy sitting in their office biting nails all day is somehow much more valuable than the people developing the product. Sure, if you would believe in that.

SCB,

Who do you think is “biting their nails all day?” Like, which positions specifically.

Also game devs work in offices (or at home offices)

greavous, do games w Madden should not be 70$

I’d say that’s its because there’s only really 1 country that’s going to buy it in large numbers but the reality is it’s the standard ea tax. Stop buying it every year or stop complaining.

sucricdrawkcab, do games w Madden should not be 70$

I buy Madden on sale every 2 years. Last year was the first time I bought it new since Madden 25. Same game with betterish graphics

Jagget, do gaming w Madden should not be 70$

If it should not, then stop buying for this price. Easy.

NOOBMASTER, do games w Madden should not be 70$

Not my problem really.

dmm, do games w Madden should not be 70$

It’s a free market. Just don’t buy it

CorrodedCranium, do games w Madden should not be 70$
@CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

Just take your John Madden Football Sega Genesis ROM and use this tool to update the roster yourself. Who’d be able to tell the difference?

sturmblast,

those of us that actually play the game

CaptSoulBeard, do gaming w Madden should not be 70$

You should not buy it just because it’s a new release.

HuddaBudda,
@HuddaBudda@kbin.social avatar

What are you talking about? This is the same game as the previous edition. I am not even sure they changed the graphics this time.

scrubbles, do games w Madden should not be 70$
!deleted6348 avatar

Yeah I have a version of Madden from 2015 that works perfectly fine and seems to be more or less the same game, have been very happy with it. I refuse to pay $70 for a game that I know is riddled with microtransactions for really… nothing else changing

DetectiveKakuna,

I am curious as to why you say the game riddled with microtransactions? The only microtransactions I have ever seen is the card pack shit and that is incredibly easy to not pay for by just playing the other 95% of gameplay features they offer in the game that are completely free of microtransactions.

gerryflap, do games w Madden should not be 70$
@gerryflap@feddit.nl avatar

They know that people are going to pay for it. For exactly the same reason I haven’t bought a Formula 1 game in a few years. Every year it’s just not quite worth the 60-70 euro’s for me. I’m not even that mad about the 70 euro price tag if I get something nice for it in return, everything has gotten more expensive and games have been 60 euro since forever, but last year’s game with some small changes is not going to cut it for that price.

lemmyseizethemeans,

EA sucks. They suck, EA fucking sucks and can I say it again? Fuck EA. Price gouging for shitty products. What they did to battlefront 2? Lootbox pay to win bullshit. The AI in EAs F1 is so abysmal, 2022 was such a colossal disappointment and they are saying 80 bucks USD is a sale price for F1 2023. Naw fam fuck EA and their entire product line. I’ll only buy on steam sale at 70% discount on principal

lud,

Thankfully they backed down from Battlefront 2 and removed every single microtransaction. It’s a really fun game actually.

lemmyseizethemeans,

Oh totally. Over 2000 hours in it. I love it but it could have been so much better. Imagine balanced teams (like Nintendo does with Mario cart) instead of total domination by one side which is western philosophy encapsulated. Imagine showing server population so we can join what’s bumping instead of showing no data for fear of investment analysis hurting stock price. Imagine if they supported the community at fucking all.

I love BF2 but so much wasted potential it’s just depressing

mojo, (edited ) do games w Madden should not be 70$

then don’t buy it

people keep buying it, so why wouldn’t they raise the price?

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Typical moron gamer moment, though: Bitch about price, buy it anyway, leave a bad review at 500 hours played, and repeat next year.

BilboBargains,

They named this pathology The Maddening.

twistedtxb,
@twistedtxb@lemmy.ca avatar

Now that FIFA’s gone, EA needs another cash cow.

lud,

Fifa isn’t gone, only the FIFA in-game branding is gone. It’s just called FC24 instead of FIFA 24.

And most of the world that plays FIFA isn’t going to play an American football game. American football is completely different and not relatable to pretty much anyone except those from USA (or maybe Canada, dunno).

Devious_Thoughts, do games w Madden should not be 70$

What is the allure to a yearly new Madden game?

Jyek,

Statistics of players being updated and new character models being added. Nothing that couldn’t be done in an update. Honestly most sports games should literally just be games as a service already.

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

Updated stats and roster. Slight gameplay tweaks.

vox, do games w Madden should not be 70$
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

madden should not be

AndreyAsimow, do games w Madden should not be 70$
@AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world avatar

Sport games should be sold as game as service rather than yearly releases.

CorrodedCranium,
@CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

I wonder if they’d have a hard time selling a service that doesn’t include the micro-transactions.

AndreyAsimow,
@AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world avatar

Relying on only seasonal subscriptions is not enough. They have to sell something else és well to keep up.

magic_lobster_party,

Why? They’re probably making way more money this way anyways.

deweydecibel, do gaming w Madden should not be 70$

Counterpoint:

You, and everyone else, should be making enough money right now that a $70 price tag isn’t a problem.

Wage stagnation makes price increases seem worse than than they should be. Truth is we should all be making enough that a few bucks increase in the price of Netflix or YouTube shouldn’t be something we struggle with.

So by all means, pile it on at EA, but save some of it for your employer too

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I get your point. It’s absolutely crazy that people don’t srike en masse for better conditions but then you got people thinking fuck you I got mine.

But I also think that while this is true: EA still is pretty much the worst and needs to be disbanded for controlling large parts of the market and extortionist marketing techniques.

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