SchmidtGenetics

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SchmidtGenetics,

Pc, where games are locked to launchers…? And OS…?

They have their own flaws, so that’s not even a good counterpoint. They are FAR from inclusive, and far more exclusive in a lot of cases. HL3 would likely be a Steam exclusive, to think otherwise is just ignoring reality.

SchmidtGenetics,

Having to buy from a certain store and being able to run anywhere on hardware of your choice is hardly more exclusive than being forced to buy from one vendor and only run on one system.

But you can’t…? It’s locked to OS, and it doesn’t run on ALL hardware. There’s minimum specs, and you can’t play modern games on windows 95.

Why do people ignore the glaring flaws while preaching the few okay ones? And the obvious lies too. The pros that people use, all fall flat when you follow them. You say all hardware, but it’s not, and never has been has it…?

SchmidtGenetics,

A yes, a very insightful and polite response.

Should have known trying to have a civil discussion about anything related to Nintendo would lead to trolls coming and brigading and insulting.

SchmidtGenetics, (edited )

able to run anywhere on hardware of your choice i

So if this statement is true, an OS wouldn’t be a limitation.

Of course tech is better, that’s why you can’t play on it anymore with anything modern. Do you seriously need this pointed out?

And lots of old windows 95 programs don’t run on modern hardware, so if you bought something back then, you’re SOL with modern hardware. Limitations everywhere.

SchmidtGenetics, (edited )

Right, but it’s not freedom, when it doesn’t run on everything. You need to keep your system updated to play modern games.

With a switch, any game released, you know will play.

So yes it’s MORE exclusive in some situations.

Nobody is claiming that you should run Black Myth Wukong on an old IBM Aptiva except you.

Where? Don’t put words in peoples mouth if you want to have a civil discourse, but of course with this being your post, we know your bias already.

The thing you are arguing for, literally has a list of games it CANT run… and it includes a lot of modern games as well as older, so it can’t even run them… nice non-exclusion eh? It limits on BOTH sides.

SchmidtGenetics, (edited )

You said PC gaming is flawed because you can’t play modern games on a Windows 95 PC. Which is insane.

I never claimed that. I said it was a limitation. Which it is. It limits its capability. Limitations are flaws, but that doesn’t make it flawed, it still works. Funny how words can have multiple definitions and you can choose which one to fit your narrative. Having to get a specific system to play the games you want, is cumbersome, it isn’t always easy, or even doable in some situations now.

Quite putting words in peoples mouth, and again with the insulting when someone has a dissenting opinion. You don’t agree with me, that doesn’t mean I’m a sock puppet. Just shows you don’t want to have a civil discourse and go to fallacies.

So yes it’s MORE exclusive in some situations.

In almost all situations.

… you agree the Pc is more limited in almost all situations now? That’s not my claim. I said some.

SchmidtGenetics,

Any non modern Nintendo console is capable of playing homebrew games, so this isn’t even true.

People have released NES and gameboy games in the last few years. Even on carts.

SchmidtGenetics,

The games released on carts arent official games, but they’re playable on an unmodified console/system. Where do the goalposts get moved to now? Games are released on something you said wasn’t possible, so which is it?

SchmidtGenetics,

How so? How can it be a walled garden if anyone can develop and release a game cartridge for it?

SchmidtGenetics,

Anyone can release a cartridge though? This part you’re ignoring.

Why move the goalposts? You’re also now suggesting we gatekeep devs? Why is releasing something on pc fine, but wouldn’t be fine if it was “homebrew”? Because it doesn’t fit your bias?

A game release is a game release, or do these limitations only apply to one side unevenly?

Pc is FULL of shovelware, so that shouldn’t be the metric we use? Yeah?

SchmidtGenetics,

That’s literally what I’m trying to point out? They all have their own quirks. And yet people bicker it’s funny.

I point out there’s limitations on PC, and get insulted. The circlejerking against Nintendo and for Steam is just wild on this community.

SchmidtGenetics,

I never said it was easy?

Why do you keep insisting I’m moving the goal post?

You said it was a walled garden, so it sounded like you weren’t aware that homebrew and modern cartridge releases exist. And are now arguing why those aren’t applicable to your “walled garden” comment.

SchmidtGenetics,

Funny how month long idle accounts come out as well on those same votes, what does any of it imply?

SchmidtGenetics,

I insulted sir Gaben, steam and gaben are sacred on Lemmy. I spoke ill and got brigaded, happens to any comments like that. Could do without the blatant insults, surprised the mods allow it, or maybe they just haven’t gotten to it yet.

SchmidtGenetics,

First paragraph dude…

Earlier this month, the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement added Microsoft to its list of priority targets due to the company’s intense entanglement with the Israeli military via Azure cloud and AI services.

SchmidtGenetics, (edited )

Uhh… clearly you didn’t even read the article mate.

According to the judge, the 2020 settlement between Mitchell and Smith never involved any money. Smith was told to remove any YouTube videos and social media posts he made relating to Mitchell. He was also required to hand over copyright of those removed videos to Mitchell, and to stop publishing content about Mitchell or face a $25,000 fine for each incident.

Jobst had originally claimed that Smith was ordered to pay Mitchell $1 million. Jobst edited the video several times while it was online, once after Mitchell suggested he intended to sue, and again after Smith’s brother confirmed no money had been exchanged in the settlement between Mitchell and Smith.

Guy claimed Mitchel caused the dudes suicide because of debt, there was zero money involved in the lawsuit, then the guy tried to hide it. Guy defamed mitchel, got caught, tried hiding it.

And you want to claim what here? Maybe just read the article mate.

SchmidtGenetics,

Jeez dude. Again, further down.

The judge also referred to an interview in which Jobst said, “Billy Mitchell needs to be destroyed in court […] I am the last chance for the public to punish Billy.”

There’s no “Reddit attitude” here, if anything, the stupidness of people commenting without reading an article in it’s entirety is what’s boiling over from that cesspool. I think someone protests too much……

SchmidtGenetics,

They did decide because of the defamation. Anything about the decision being about anything else is purely in your head.

And fuck the judge for showing some character and insulting them I guess? They’re potentially wasting your tax money and wasting courts precious time and you want to allow this apparently? Shit take dude.

You just want some stooge to parrot corp speak? Jesus Christ, what the hell does that have to do with the article?

If you read it, than you’re just a troll bloviating.

SchmidtGenetics,

Gacha

Gacha is the prime example to use for loot boxes.

SchmidtGenetics,

That’s only if you download the game and store it in a way that won’t degrade, when their servers are offline, you can’t download it anymore…

This is such a red herring reason, and I don’t know why people hold onto this like it matters, at all.

SchmidtGenetics,

That’s my point… it literally doesn’t matter that they can revoke you license or not, when the servers are down, you’re fucked regardless.

Hence why it’s a pointless argument to bring up…

What else do you think I meant here?

SchmidtGenetics,

I didn’t know IKEA made video games?

And why does that matter? When they go out of business you can’t download even if you do or don’t have a license.

That’s why it matters.

Because you now have a game that you don’t need a license that you still won’t be able to access or play? So how does that make a single fucking difference lmfao.

SchmidtGenetics,

And how does that work when they close down and servers that host the games can no longer be accessed to download your license free game?

Wheter you have a revokabke license or not, you still won’t ever be able to access the game…… how do people need this explained to them? And yet use this single reason like it matters lmfao.

SchmidtGenetics,

That’s literally the point, it’s a useless argument since it doesn’t fucking matter lmfao.

SchmidtGenetics,

How can the installers access a file that no longer exists since the servers are shut down and the files can no longer be accessed…?

My phrasing is confusing since the point literally is fucking pointless, it’s moot, doesn’t matter since it can’t be accessed licensed or not.

SchmidtGenetics,

You are just ignoring that the installers can be downloaded and saved. Or even just the game directory can continue to work.

Dude, no I am not, my very first comment in this chain talked about the needing to download and store it in a non-degrading way…. Fucking hell dude lmfao.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/931af9e6-d9e5-485c-a786-35cafacd0867.png

What point are you trying to make here then if I already covered this at the very start?

SchmidtGenetics,

I covered this in my original comment, thanks though I guess.

SchmidtGenetics,

The story/lore is from reading all the item descriptions and talking to everyone, gotta find it yourself unlike most games.

SchmidtGenetics,

I agree, those are those play for the gameplay games, I don’t want to sit in a menu for 20 hours reading lore and still don’t know that I’m missing the necklace that explains why the jesters head was cut off or some stupid shit.

These games are made for some passionate fan to explain the lore in a way for others to grasp and that’s not always a bad thing. Still friggen stupid though.

SchmidtGenetics,

People already seem to forget this isn’t the first time, the release of Witcher 3 was horrendous as well.

SchmidtGenetics,

It being released in a essentially a beta state with a terrible UI? half the loot being a bitch to access because you always cast igni? Game breaking bugs and glitch’s? Hard crashes?

I don’t think they have released one game that was actually release ready yet.

CP2077 was far worse, but that doesn’t mean the Witcher 3 was okay, it was still absolutely botched.

SchmidtGenetics,

I had the quest glitch where you could no longer progress the story. It was also in the later 25% of the game, so 80ish hours in.

SchmidtGenetics,

Sounds more like downplaying the severity of one.

SchmidtGenetics,

It’s more like both are tornados and one is an F3 and the other being an F5. You’re being disingenuous in defending CDPR for continually inexcusable work.

An industry standard bad? What’s that even mean? At that point in time games were shipping complete still and not in a beta state.

Its always hilarious the excuses people come up with, neither are excusable, yet here you are justifying one… yeesh, give your head a shake.

SchmidtGenetics,

I didn’t know a a progress breaking bug at 80 hours in is annoying…? That falls in the latter, non-functional. What about not being able to pick up loot? That’s non-functional…. You’re excusing shitty devs lmfao, this isn’t about good or bad, this is all shades of shit, or like I said previously tornadoes.

Sounds like you just aren’t educated on what the issues actually were, rose coloured glasses or something…. So not only disingenuous now.

SchmidtGenetics,

Every single one of those reviews missed multiple warnings about the required account linking.

They are false reviews by definition, the store had the requirements listed, and there was a splash screen you had to accept when loading the game.

Every single one of those reviews is someone who made an uneducated purchase, they shouldn’t be defended for their willful ignorance.

SchmidtGenetics,

I wonder if it’s more damage control, why are they allowing games to be sold in markets where the mandatory linking wasn’t possible?

Steam should know this limitations, the devs knew about the requirements from Sony, it was listed on the store page since it was listed.

SchmidtGenetics,

Communicate better? Not sell the game in markets where it wouldn’t work. The limitation was something from the get go.

SchmidtGenetics, (edited )

You’re absolutely correct, how many of those reviews are pointing the blame correctly? I haven’t seen a single one yelling at Steam or arrowhead for selling the game in these markets that wouldn’t be able to play the game.

SchmidtGenetics, (edited )

Arrowhead also knowingly sold a game in markets where it wouldn’t be possible to play the game, even at launch with the restrictions in place you could buy the game in these markets. Steam also allowed these games to be sold in markets where they knew the restrictions wouldn’t allow them to play the game.

They fucked up and are now trying to deflect blame from themselves, yeah Sony is shitty, but arrowhead and steam both saw dollar bills and tried taking them.

Edit, if anything, Sony can turn this around that Arrowhead and Steam strong armed their way out of the contract requirements. Steam and arrowhead should take the fall and costs in this one if that’s the case.

SchmidtGenetics,

Steam just limited the purchase to right markets today, so yes they are.

SchmidtGenetics,

That arrowhead and steam sold a game in markets that the game was restricted? Just go to the steam page I guess.

Steam also just today restricted the sales to the correct markets, they always had the capability it seems.

SchmidtGenetics,

Steam and arrowhead both allowed the sale of the game in non-compatible markets.

Everyone is to blame in, it all depends on how you want to swing it.

I’m not defending any single entity, I literally blamed them all lmfao.

But of course someone is a shill when they go against your bias and narrative…. Give your head a fucking shake.

Sony ripped you off here, so did Steam and so did arrowhead. Arrowhead is kind of being the worst here throwing everyone else under the bus instead of owning up to their mistake and sever lack of communication though. They are trying a strong arm tactic now that they got caught with their own hand in the jar.

SchmidtGenetics,

Arrowhead didn’t know that only certain regions of the world can make PSN accounts

Ignorance? Really?

It would go without saying that they would be informed of returns, so after the first return of the game in one of those markets that defense would no longer be valid.

Arrowhead has no excuse for not educating themselves before agreeing to a contract, and for continuing to sell it after obviously knowing about the issue for months.

SchmidtGenetics,

Why would they knowingly sell a game in 20 countries that would just refund it 10 minutes after first launching it?

Because the refunds stopped after the first day as you said, why would they stop a cash flow coming in knowing it would now no longer be refunded anymore?

And yes of course steam passes that information along, why would you claim they don’t?

SchmidtGenetics,

Steam article May answer that question

SchmidtGenetics,

Why are you blaming Sony for Arrowheads greed here? Sony sucks, but it’s arrowhead and steam in this case.

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