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kandoh, do games w Day 16 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

The survivalist’s journals were the best part.

WraithGear, do gaming w Simpler times
@WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

Whats surprising is that a lot of those old games…. ran at 60 FPS.

daddy32,

Did they? I remember being told something like “25FPS is enough for everyone”.

RecluseRamble,

People said that but I always thought it’s bullshit since you could clearly see a difference between 30 and 60 fps.

WraithGear,
@WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

You are thinking about “cinematic“. And i would argue that being forced for movies is not because it’s better, but because it’s extended use in films gives the low fps an expected quality for movie watchers. The hobbit suffered from success over this.

Back in the day the fps for games was tied to the, i think it’s hrtz off the power lines, it alternates in 60hz in America. Slightly less in the UK.

datelmd5sum,

Most of the World runs 50Hz. North America and some island nations run 60Hz, some 3rd world countries and Japan use an abominable mix of both.

WraithGear, (edited )
@WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

Yep. I would say that the old games were ahead of their time, but it’s more accurate to say that we have regressed since.

Wile preferences can be subjective… i am still going to demand that (stable)frame rate > graphical fidelity, and that 60 is only the bare minimum.

gamermanh,

Old ratchet and clank games were 60fps on the PS2, pretty sure many PS1 games as well

Can’t be assed to think back further than that

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

Atari 2600 games couldn’t run at anything other than 60fps since the system didn’t have any way to retain frames so they could be displayed multiple times. The program had to be constantly outputting graphics data to keep up with the TV’s refresh rate.

yamanii,
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Bloody Roar 2 running at 60 was big deal back then, it wasn’t common for a 3D game to run that well on PS1.

Klear, do gaming w What are your thoughts on crouch jumping?

I always saw it as a quirk of the way the game is programmed (they didn’t bother disabling crouching while mid-air) that they just ended up somewhat legitimising by teaching it in the tutorial. AFAIK you only have to use this once or twice in the entire game, and don’t recall it ever being useful when not forced (maybe except for climbing where you shouldn’t to sequence break).

It’s not part of the core gameplay. You learn in in the tutorial, forget about it, get stuck in the middle of the game, remember this is a thing, use it once and then forget about it again.

At least that’s how I remember it. It’s been a while since I played HL1.

Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

HL1 had the long-jump upgrade where you had to do a crouch jump to use it.

Klear,

That’s not the kind of crouch-jump that’s being discussed here. In source games you can crouch while you’re in the air and it allows you to reach slightly higher ledges. It’s got nothing to do with the long jump upgrade.

Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, you use the long jump to reach some crouch-jump spots. It’s a type of crouch-jump.

conciselyverbose,

That sounds like bad design to me. It’s not realistic at all.

In real life you’d do some kind of mantle. Box jumps are a good workout that no one ever uses for anything else.

mkwt,

The long jump sequence is crouch, then jump. Close enough together that it registers and turns into a single long jump move.

The crouch jump sequence is jump, then crouch. And it’s really just a regular crouch in mid air.

Zombiepirate,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

But my point is that the long jump reduces the hotbox. They’re both crouch-jumps, just different forms.

You had to long-jump into little spaces that would be too big to fit in normally.

camr_on, do games w Day 16 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots
@camr_on@lemmy.world avatar

That’s the ending I usually choose. I like doing HH early in any playthrough to get A Light Shining In Darkness asap

mrfriki, (edited ) do gaming w What are your thoughts on crouch jumping?

It’s something I’m glad it is not longer being used anymore and run+jump or long press jump or double jump are used instead. It was a pain to pull the move on a keyboard, at least for me.

SynopsisTantilize, do games w Day 15 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

Great. Now where’s my halo 3 ss?

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I have to beat Halo 2 on Legendary first before I do 3. It’s been hell

SynopsisTantilize,

Lmao okay, so I’ll see that H3 screen shot next year.

JadenSmith, do gaming w What are your thoughts on crouch jumping?

When I was much younger and CoD4 was the latest, I thought I was rather good and so entered a competition.

Everyone was crouch jumping (we called it “bunny hops”), and I couldn’t hit them at all. Left absolutely defeated lol!
I don’t have an issue now, however every time someone does it today it’s like I have flashbacks to that horrible defeat 😂

It’s all a bit of fun though. If the mechanic exists in a game I can’t be angry or hurt at someone taking advantage of it.

tiredofsametab, do gaming w What are your thoughts on crouch jumping?

I don't think it adds anything and the extra button press probably reduces accessibility.

thejevans, do gaming w What are your thoughts on crouch jumping?
@thejevans@lemmy.ml avatar

Like all game mechanics, it can be implemented in a clumsy way, or as part of a rewarding movement system.

I think that skeuomorphism in games is a decent accessibility feature for people just getting into games, but also video games have been a cultural staple for decades, so it’s not really that necessary that games mimic real movement anymore.

I don’t have a good crouch-jump example, but games like Quake have taken jump movement tech to a crazy level, originally intended or not.

redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=XhzK5fL1mj0

abbotsbury,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

Quake movement raises the ceiling for sure, I saw a graph once showing the optimal angles for bunnyhopping and it seems crazy precise.

Accessibility is always a concern, which is why I’m glad Black Mesa introduced an auto-crouchjump option for those that want or need it, but generally I think it is a good thing when the range of things a player can do is expanded.

Electric_Druid, do games w Day 15 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

Just finished a full playthrough of this game. Love seeing these, beautiful environments.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I’m finishing up side quests now and then I’m going to finish the story of Honest Hearts

Electric_Druid,

I did the same, finished up in the Mojave and did HH and the other DLCs as a victory lap.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I still need to do the main story. I’m trying to do them in some sort of Chronological order. I think the only one I for sure will do after the main game is Lonesome road. It just feels right

linkinkampf19, do games w Day 15 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots
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Not sure how or if it’s mess up current saves or not, but if you’ve not considered it yet, is would recommend trying it A Tale Of Two Wastelands. Merges FO3’s Capital Wasteland with FNV’s Mojave via train ride. Keeps all the mechanics as well.

sir_pronoun,

But I doubt they will be able to romance a woman without arms in that game

ltxrtquq,

Can I use an existing save?

Short answer: No.

You cannot use an existing Fallout: New Vegas save to play TTW. Even though a save might load, there are too many changes for it to work correctly. No support is provided if you do this anyway.

Saves made with previous versions of TTW will not work with 3.x. Too many changes were made to allow saves to be compatible.

linkinkampf19,
@linkinkampf19@lemmy.world avatar

I figured that was the case, but what’s the fun of modding without some screwed up textures, some futzing around with the 254 esp limit, and a couple of annoying CTDs?

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I did consider mods for FNV, especially ones that expand the world and lets you keep DLC companions. But I’m playing on Steam Deck, but Skyrim already was a headache for me to do, so I decided against it

mhague, do gaming w Simpler times

I wouldn’t even care if a game ran at a consistent sub 30 fps. I just refresh the way I feel about what I’m doing. Like when you switch to black and white television, or music written in a different tonal system, or an Adam Sandler movie. Just relax, turn off the analysis, let your ocular systems rewire some stuff, and suddenly you don’t even notice anything weird.

But when the fps is all over the place I can’t hang anymore.

wizardbeard,

I’ve found personally that even with changing refresh rates, variable refresh rate screens eliminate screen tearing and I’m a lot less likely to notice it.

Cagi, do gaming w Simpler times

2000 gamer: Yes, I can get this game to run in 1024x768

2024 Gamer: At what FPS?

2000 gamer: No it’s an RTS.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I think I played Dawn of war at like 20fps on my old potato of a desktop back in the day

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

But honestly, going from software rendering to 3D acceleration with a 3dfx Voodoo 2 accelerator with a whopping 8 MB RAM made me appreciate FPS. I spent several minutes just switching weapons in Jedi Knight and marveling at how quickly that suddenly went.

Cagi,

That’s so funny you say that, Jedi Knight is where I first got to appreciate 3D acceleration, too. I must have racked up hundreds of hours in that game once upon a time.

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Funny thing is that the game is actually worse 3D accelerated because the trilinear filtering made textures blurry and thus removed special colors that made specific colors glow in the dark.

Evil_Shrubbery,

Haha, muh two SLI Voodoos 2 both had 12MB each!!

/sarcastic bragging for comedic effect

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I was genuinely upset that my parents didn’t get me the 12 MB version which locked me at 800x600. But I didn’t really get the distinction between system RAM and graphics RAM so I couldn’t formulate my frustration.

nilloc,

I bought my voodoo 2 12mb on eBay in college. It was my first eBay purchase fall 1998 I think, but I never saved up for a second card to do SPI.

Dagnet,

I played warcraft 3 with literally less than 1fps during combat. Out of combat it was like 20fps during which I would prepare then attack move and go take a break

Jakeroxs,

This plus dial up lmao, always asking PLEASE DON’T DROP ME, I’M HERE!

Dagnet,

oh, I only played SP back then, with the pc I had I would get booted before even loading any maps in MP

Jakeroxs,

Yeah, I played through roc and tft many times before finally getting into MP, the trick was usually to try and find the maps on epic war first and dl them ahead of time, or find really nice people who’d let you stay to dl, most of the ones I played weren’t too large like kodo or ent tag, or any of the line tower/maul gsmes but the old RP maps took forever.

I gave back a bit and would host DL Only games while at school so peeps could come in and dl maps :p

Sabata11792, do gaming w Simpler times

Young me downloading a cool mouse icon and 6 browser search bars.

TropicalDingdong,
@TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world avatar

It’s my bonsai buddy. how else would I find good deals on the Internet?

Honytawk,

Tried doing that as well

Was confused why I couldn’t get it working and why my desktop didn’t have a <header> tag

VinnyDaCat,

And a bit of malware with it. I specifically remember one of those Runescape cursors had a search bar download with it and it was not secure. 10 year old me didn’t care though.

rollmagma, do gaming w No one could have anticipated this outcome

Actually not that bad, AK47s for arms mostly negates the praying mantis’ most dangerous feature which is it’s grip. Also, gorillas tend to use their hands while walking, so the AKs would get their barrels full of dirt.

Or maybe this is more mantis body and gorilla members? Which would be just a cricket with a funny butt.

TAYRN,

You’re giving the devs a lot of credit, here. It’s less “this particular chimera would be most adept to combat” and more:

“I drew a super-buff zombie alien man with a weird head. He can shoot lazers. Writers, make a backstory for him.”

lolrightythen,
TAYRN, (edited )

So basically:

Takano: I drew a hot big witchy gothy dommy mommy.

Fans (drooling): Step on me.

Takano: Writers, make it work.

FinalRemix,

And then they fired all the writers for the rest of the game.

lolrightythen,

Just procure more guns?! Yes, I live in the u.s…

FinalRemix,

Linear Launcher. The only gun you need.

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