One of my favorite games makes no mention of the main character’s gender, and the main character is always depicted in an outfit that is a sort of cross between a spacesuit and worker’s coveralls. And it doesn’t make one bit of difference in the game.
Incel = involuntary celibate. A person (usually a male) who acts in a way and believes in things which potential romantic partners (usually females) find repulsive. For example, alt-righties, tankies, wannabe rapists, etc.
Incel comes with a certain ideology. They normally believe they are some kind of sub-human, held in that position by women, beta males (men with female partners) and chads (very attractive men with female partners).
They put a huge emphasis on being sexless, kissless, handholdless, etc. and believe all their problems and behaviour issues stem from this problem. That women won’t be their romantic and sex partners.
From there they enter a spectrum of hatred for women. The majority of incels is probably just writing really really awful stuff about women online. But many boast how they “get back” at women in their day-to-day life. Spitting on their food as a waiter, ignoring their female classmates and talk over them in class are two examples I found online.
Some have plans on how to murder women and some already did.
OK thx for the clarification. Yeah with this definition I completely agree with the original comment. Lot of people are toxic against women especially in competitive fps
You added your view of the issue to the definition. In-cel only means involuntary celibate, and there can be many more reasons why someone is, than appearing repulsive to potential romantic partners.
The porn on Lemmy is mostly weird furry stuff and still images of nude women. Most women don’t regularly look at the kind of porn that is prevalent on Lemmy.
The solution is for everyone else to act like school kids and treat the guy like he has a crush and make fun of him. No one likes to be told they’re sitting in a tree.
The left one looks great. Usually we don't think of computer peripherals as gaining a patina, but it kind of works here. Good call on buying a spare, though!
Somewhere around here I have the HP optical mouse that used to come with their desktops. It finally quit working and I had to replace it, and I had to do the math for how long I had been using it.
First one as well. Ellie is gay. Confirmed in the dlc for the first game, the last of us 2 has Ellie in a relationship with a bi woman and there’s also a trans character in it.
I was thinking the same thing, I imagine there’s an indie game or two out there but the dude bros probably aren’t playing those. Celeste came to mind but that’s not a gay protagonist so much as a trans one.
Celeste is also one of those games where the story has nothing to do with the character’s sexuality, and you wouldn’t know if you didn’t look it up.
In Hades on the other hand, Zagreus is as bi as… an ancient Greek demigod, I suppose. You can romance a female Fury who loves strappy leather and whips, or the literal God of Death. Or both at the same time, even.
However I feel like those who could have judged it may have given it a free pass because, well, it is ancient Greece.
I have to admit I saw it through with Dusa partly because he’s the only person who’s nice to her at all, and partly because I was really hoping for a gratuitous pun about him “wanting to get some head” preferably delivered by Meg, lol
I honestly find it more awkward when you play a woman who has to have sex with a man. It seems to be the default that female protagonist are lesbian or just never fuck at all.
Assassin’s Creed Odyssey was especially jarring. Cutscene, suddenly you’ve had a kid. What?
TL;DR you aren’t being targeted because you’re a woman. It’s because you game
I explained this to another person before: many gamers are too competitive for their own good. That means they want to win at nigh any cost. A simple “tactic” is make the other team make mistakes by influencing them. The best way to do so at a distance is by breaking their spirit. So you act like any attacker: you find weaknesses, attack vectors, ways to inflict psychological pain.
Most of the time there are very few things you know about the enemy besides their pseudonym. So you attack them with bog standard things, generic things, because they are generic. However, every tiny thing you find out about them increases the attack surface. Their location, their voice, typing speed, character choice, character set (colors, theme, items, …), etc. Perceived gender is just on other thing to add to the list.
Of course, if the gamer is losing, they are never the problem. Fault lies in others. Hence, even team mates become the enemy and the same rules apply. “If only everyone were like perfect like me, we would win”.
It doesn’t help that online gaming is just another digital activity. People behave worse when they can dehumanize the other party and that’s what the internet does. It makes it easier to act worse. Additionally, gamers who spend a lot of time online, are not good at socializing, hence the chance of them having a partner is lower than average. To make matters worse, spending so much time in such toxic communities only propagates the behavior.
Even if the sex split were 50/50, each gender were represented equally, or the gaming space were dominated by non-males: they are just as human and I bet the problem of toxicity would persist. Humans are nasty, disgusting, and evil. We are mostly egoistic, self-centered beings that socialize because it helped us survive for millennia. However, that need to socialize is dwindling quickly.
If we want to tackle toxicity in gaming, there are many, many things outside of gaming that play a role which make it impossible to conceive a gaming only solution.
I think your point of view is interesting but flawed. It’s very obvious you’re not a woman, frankly. I’ve been playing video games since I was a child, and the absolute truth is, women absolutely face more harassment than male counterparts. That’s a blog, but it links multiple studies, and you’re welcome to review them yourself.
I’ve often found the argument that you’re making is usually the Call of Duty defense (“it’s not that gamers are racist, it’s just that once we know your race, that’s what we attack”) and it’s often used by the privileged to try and claim that everyone is a target, everyone is a victim, if you can’t handle it then stop playing.
Oh no, there are definitely racist and misogynist gamers out there, no doubt. It’s just that women are easily identifiable by their voice (or being confused for 10 year old kids), which stands out. It’s the same as having another skin color, get-up, car, that the majority of your area - it stands out.
The article you posted doesn’t mention (nor link to a study) about how harassment changed with voice changers, which I would be interested in. My guess would be that it becomes comparable to that experienced by male or male sounding gamers - which the article doesn’t mention either.
It’s very obvious you’re not a woman, frankly.
I actually quit playing online games with people who aren’t friends and when I did, the mic was mostly off + other players were muted very often. Do you still think I’m not a woman?
This is a massive problem and isn’t somehow equally terrible to the idea that harassment will happen towards anyone based on what others can discern when they hear you. Women’s voices are targeted in a way other statistical data is not.
As for voice changer information, I found some with a cursory google search, but I realized that wasn’t the point I was making, it was information you’re interested in, and you’re welcome to find that. It’s equally damning to what I’ve said.
ETA; I don’t think you are. If you’re a woman, you should probably disclose in your post challenging people to use a voice modulator to sound like a woman. Because it reads like a man posting it as an interesting challenge, and not a woman challenging men.
Some male pro Valorant players did an experiment with voice changers. They basically came to the conclusion that the came is almost unplayable as a woman.
I can’t speak for the CS:Go version. Haven’t seen it. But I will say, part of one Valorant player’s complaints wasn’t just the things others call you, it’s also the fact that they aren’t willing to play with you at all. Your teammates are actively hostile with you and aren’t willing to even try to cooperate in a team based game.
I play video games for over 30 years now. To believe there is no targeted harassment against women in gaming is frankly ridiculous.
LANs back then were a nightmare. I got a voice modulator a few years in after starting playing online, just to make it stop. I got death and rape threads and multiple stalkers, one who followed me throughout Steam and one who even tried to dox me. I had to change Realm on WoW because of a stalker from my previous guild.
And that’s only the obviously bad stuff. Microaggrssions and sexist behaviour is rampant in many communities. You really have to search for a community with people who make an effort to not engage in that behaviour. Lots of women in those.
I’ve seen this harassment all the time in non-competitive games though. Even on the PS3 playing GTAIV, when my character was a woman, people would follow me, two different times people added me, no one had when I was a male character. One of them messaged me asking if I was actually a woman lol. Obviously this is just anecdotal, but there are plenty of stats about this sort of thing.
If your view is that most people are self-centered and nasty I think you maybe need to socialize with different people. Like you said the anonymity of the internet dehumanizes people and encourages more toxic behavior, I don’t believe most people really are so toxic though.
If your view is that most people are self-centered and nasty I think you maybe need to socialize with different people. Like you said the anonymity of the internet dehumanizes people and encourages more toxic behavior, I don’t believe most people really are so toxic though.
It comes from real life experience. Growing up where I did was eye-opening to human misery and cruelty. Sadly, other people had it even worse than I did. I’ll stop there before I get too negative.
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic had a lesbian character, with a fully developed romance with the player. Devs were forced to nix it, still there but requires a lot of work to unlock. First gay character in Star Wars canon, although I guess Disney owns our imaginations and that doesn’t count anymore.
Jade Empire is another BioWare title that you can be gay in - if you play as a man, there is a male romance option which basically requires a guide to do right. He won’t give you a hint there’s an option until you actively piss off every female romance option.
That was gay gaming until the 2010s. We couldn’t get married until the Sims 3.
Yeah, Hollywood pandering is annoying and most of the time hollow. “The henchman from Beauty and the Beast is gay now!” But being able to make my Skyrim dude marry another Skyrim dude is great. I was early in transition when the Dragon Age with a trans guy came out - in a world where I was this alien in-between thing people didn’t understand, having this world where I could be normal was wonderful. Heck, Old School RuneScape upgraded their quests so you didn’t have to change your character to female for a quest and could be gay - I cried like a silly idiot.
Video games are escapism and queer people deserve escape too. There are enough stories for everyone.
Yeah, and Fox News went on for weeks about how horrifying the sex was. Mass Effect letting you be queer was a Big Deal at the time - even more so than the het soft core porn that was in God of War.
The only time I rage these days is when I am playing a souls-like and I tap the dodge button while my stamina is full and nothing happens. And then I just yell at the game. “Oh you stupid fucking bastard! Dodge! I’m hitting the button when his arm is still a mile away, just fucking move!”
It’s the same frustration playing Mario and for some reason the fat plumber asshole doesn’t jump when you hit B so you end up running off a cliff.
In the actual souls games, the dodge happens on release of the button because holding it is how you run. It can feel like input lag at times. Though there are times where there actually is lag, usually accompanied by a slight dip in FPS that results in you hitting the input, taking a hit, and then dodging.
I’ve been playing Fallen Order, though, and like I’ll hit the combo to heal, my dude says his voice line and I even lose a heal vial, but the animation of the robot actually tossing me the thing never occurs and I don’t actually get healed. It also has a habit of not putting the droid on ziplines when you jump to them so you just fall into pits.
Funnily, there’s something like this in hollow knight too - you tap the button to use a spell, hold to focus. In HK though, there’s an extra bind you can assign to cast a spell instantly.
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