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snek, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

As a bi person, I never face these issues. Everybody is sexy.

theangryseal,

Hey hey. :p

ParsnipWitch, do gaming w God I feel so bad for y'all

I used a voice modulator before I found my clan.

Der_Gallier, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

What game is he talking about?

Kolanaki, do gaming w I'm the fifth one. The One Who Stares.
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The only time I rage these days is when I am playing a souls-like and I tap the dodge button while my stamina is full and nothing happens. And then I just yell at the game. “Oh you stupid fucking bastard! Dodge! I’m hitting the button when his arm is still a mile away, just fucking move!

It’s the same frustration playing Mario and for some reason the fat plumber asshole doesn’t jump when you hit B so you end up running off a cliff.

bitwaba,

You just described my weekend

RGB3x3,

Fucking finally someone also says this.

I’ve always felt like the game is intentionally punishing in the most frustrating way, which is that there’s input lag.

I can handle a difficult boss. What I can’t handle is a control system that feels completely unfair and laggy.

Kolanaki,
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In the actual souls games, the dodge happens on release of the button because holding it is how you run. It can feel like input lag at times. Though there are times where there actually is lag, usually accompanied by a slight dip in FPS that results in you hitting the input, taking a hit, and then dodging.

I’ve been playing Fallen Order, though, and like I’ll hit the combo to heal, my dude says his voice line and I even lose a heal vial, but the animation of the robot actually tossing me the thing never occurs and I don’t actually get healed. It also has a habit of not putting the droid on ziplines when you jump to them so you just fall into pits.

kuberoot,

Funnily, there’s something like this in hollow knight too - you tap the button to use a spell, hold to focus. In HK though, there’s an extra bind you can assign to cast a spell instantly.

Anticorp, do gaming w I'm the fifth one. The One Who Stares.

The shut the game off and go get laid.

Kolanaki,
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Who wants to fuck a loser? /s

someguy7734206, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

In a large portion of games I’ve played, there is no mention of the main character’s sexuality at all.

frunch,

But think about how much differently you’d play the game if you had that info readily available!

NotJustForMe, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

How about just playing the story as intended. Not everything has to be individualized.

CaptnNMorgan,

But this meme is specifically talking about ONE game where the main character is gay, most games aren’t individualized but some are and they’re usually straight while this one is potentially the only gay one and people that complain probably just shouldn’t play it

Kolanaki, do gaming w God I feel so bad for y'all
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Shit, my steam name was The Cool Side of the Pillow for over a decade and I didn’t even have to talk for people to assume I was a girl, for some reason.

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

Idgaf about the orientation typically. But if it’s gonna be explicitly called out, then it better be significant to the character’s identity, otherwise it’s just meaningless attempts for the developer to ingratiate themselves with the LGBTQ without so much as providing a representative character of substance. I can’t think of any examples of these off the top of my head, but there were some games and/or shows where I lost interest because every character was whatever different flavor of sexual and I was just like “this contributes nothing at all to the story, who tf cares about that shit?”

kofe,

Recommend looking into “mirrors, windows, and sliding glass doors” by Dr. Rudine Sims Bishop for academic discussion on it. TL;DR it’s good for kids.

maynarkh,

then it better be significant to the character’s identity

I was saying the same thing a few years back, but now I don’t even think it’s the case. I think it’s more like “if it’s significant to the character’s identity or the game’s world, make it make sense”.

For example, Cyberpunk’s Judy was a great character. You could have several full playthroughs, and wouldn’t know she was into girls if you didn’t try to jump her bones that one time. You could maybe infer she was more than just good friends with that other character. And that’s how it should be. I mean in normal conversation it comes up very rarely who are you into sexually.

All I’m saying, it’s not natural in real life to know who everyone would do in real life, and it’s not natural in a video game.

Katana314,

I have a story plan I’m tossing around, and trying to decide something around this. It’s nothing so complex - basically, there’s a nation that has historically been extremely homophobic, and as a result, a mid-sized cabal of defectors that the book follows are gay. One of those situations where an observer (in or out of universe) could tiredly claim it doesn’t matter to them, except that it apparently does matter to this fictional nation.

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer,

That’s the perfect counterexample, because their sexual identity is directly tied to their motive in the story’s conflict. That is the kind of writing that deserves respect.

Honytawk,

Eh, I’ve seen plenty of attempts of character having a heterosexual tendencies while there is no need for them. Like tons of Disney movies.

If people don’t get bothered by those, then they shouldn’t be bothered by LGBTQ+ characters having their sexuality shoehorned in.

In the end, a character is a character. And there are people acting extremely flamboyant in the real world, so why wouldn’t they be allowed to exist in media?

Allero, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

The industry has long invented a near-perfect solution:

MAKE IT TWO LESBIAN GIRLS

  • They are gay
  • They are loved by straights
  • Straight girls who see it invariably turn bi
  • Yay!

The only side still uncovered is gay men, that’s all.

NegativeInf,

Yea… fuck me I guess?

yamanii,
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They did try to bring fear effect back, but they still pale compared to the originals.

jimbo, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

Who has the time to give a shit about this one way or the other?

soggy_kitty,

Yeah don’t lump me in with either of those two groups.

I don’t give a fuck

Aceticon,

I don’t give a fuck

Loved the asexual pun!

mightyfoolish, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

This picture fits the comment so well. A calm person in a red flamboyant suit with makeup right next to an emotional but overall average person going on a rant. Well done.

Mongostein, do gaming w I'm the fifth one. The One Who Stares.

I put the controller down, drink some water, come back.

therealjcdenton, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

I don’t see an issue, if 99% of the people are straight, and the goal of your character is to put the players in their shoes, then making them straight (if sexuality is in the game for whatever reason) is the right choice. Btw I’m not straight

Floey,

Better not make any characters elven. Who could relate?

NotJustForMe,

I’ve just played doom and liked it. Now I’m in an identity crisis.

It never really matters in any case. What gives.

Honytawk,

Just go out there and buy yourself a bunny

therealjcdenton,

I hate elves

rustydrd,
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Your numbers are off. The proportion of straight people is closer to 90% in western countries, and this is likely an overestimate as other sexual orientations are still stigmatized in most countries (source).

therealjcdenton,

My numbers are in reference to the post

maynarkh,

As a straight guy, I think I can relate better to a gay woman in an RPG than a straight woman. Romancing men is something that knocks me out of the thing still, more than anything else about playing a woman.

That said, about most games IDGAF. It’s not like straight men would not play Tomb Raider because the main protagonist is a woman. And even some RPGs, if the female voice actor is better, or the story makes better sense with a female lead, then that’s that.

erin,

God forbid any game doesn’t cater exclusively to the greatest size group. Why not have representation in games proportional to the real life people that play them? If all you care about is plurality, then every character should be straight, Han Chinese men. We should cater to the maximum amount of people, right?

NotJustForMe,

I would disagree.

Make that maximum amount of buyers.

It’s not party catering. Or art. It’s a money business that has to create games that sell, so that the developer can get paid. That is the main goal. If there is room for a message, without alienating buyers, that’s also an option.

Anyhow, we have robots, those sell. We have aliens, they sell. We have unidentified that sells. There’s elves and orcs, which sell. Bunnies and hedgehogs. Various made-up things. Tons more. They all sell copies. Find a way to make it profitable, and it will happen. It’s not about representation. And it never will be. Unless it makes enough money to make more after that.

It’s clearly not about diversity. Capitalism isn’t about demographics and equal representations.

That lies in demand. Create actual demand, and game developers will follow. They always do.

therealjcdenton,

Yea pretty much, unless the point is to highlight an aspect of culture like setting your game is Egypt and including Egyptian mythology and history, don’t alienate the majority of your audience, introduce them to something new

therealjcdenton, do gaming w God I feel so bad for y'all

Girl in my competitive TF2 lobby? Vote kick (for scamming)

uis,
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Intruder alert, girl in the lobby playing Pyro.

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