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OneRedFox, do gaming w Palworld Has Huge Weekend, Sells 5 Million and Overtakes Cyberpunk 2077 in Steam’s Most-Played Games List - IGN
@OneRedFox@beehaw.org avatar

Finally, pokemon taken to its logical conclusion.

TwilightVulpine,

Right? I see people saying "oh but the violence! the slavery!" as if it wasn't a collective act of childhood goodwill that prevented such associations being made to Pokémon. They talk a lot about friendship, but it's a friendship built on beating up creatures in the wild, which then obey and fight for you unquestioningly. Even some which are human-like and stated to be as intelligent as humans.

I consider myself a Pokémon fan and I defended them often, but it's a concept that gets a little iffy if you think about it for more than a minute.

ormr,

Sounds like any RPG to me. Except that your party consists of the same creatures that you’re fighting. In that sense it’s maybe more egalitarian than RPGs featuring classical enemy races like orcs or goblins.

In Pokémon the concept of evil comes in the Form of Team Rocket and other shady exploitative organisations. Interestingly Palworld also has a counterpart organisation called Syndicates. But I still don’t know what their crime really is since you’re really doing the same thing of fighting and catching Pals. Nevertheless you have to treat the creatures in your party right, if you want to make progress in the game.

TwilightVulpine,

Like any RPG? Nah. C'mon, in most RPGs the characters are brought together by the story. Even the occasional antagonist who is fought and then allied with has a whole discussion where they are convinced of the merits of the protagonists. I could grant that in the Pokémon anime fairly often the creatures are convinced or decide to come along willingly, but in the games that hardly ever happens.

How do you reconcile the idea that the creatures want to come along with the active resistence of fighting them and having them break your pokéballs repeatedly?

Of course if you take the story by its word they'll say that trainers are good and friendly and only these criminal teams really are evil. And for fun I indulge that fantasy while I'm playing it, that these are martial artists pets that just love fighting so much and that pokéballs must be super comfy inside. But if you take a moment to compare what is happening you'll see that it isn't that different from what Palworld is doing.

ormr,

Okay not like any RPG. It’s a special kind of RPG. And as a game it has many elements that make video game RPGs so addictive.

I agree with you on the ethics. Maybe Palworld in that sense is more honest than Pokémon. In the Pokémon anime however I always had the impression that they try to depict Pokémon as having humanlike character tendencies, e.g. some liking to get into fights and others just working as nurses in the Pokémon center…

t3rmit3,

There’s actually multiple different hostile organizations, but you won’t run into the others until you’re higher level.

Vodulas,

I see people saying “oh but the violence! the slavery!” as if it wasn’t a collective act of childhood goodwill that prevented such associations being made to Pokémon.

I think the issue with the slavery (at least for me) is that there is human slavery that has exactly zero consequence. It doesn’t have much to do with the Pals themselves

TwilightVulpine,

I heard the game warns you against it and there are police forces that chase you if you commit crimes against humans. Though I don't know if that happens if you capture a human specifically.

Still, distasteful but I wouldn't see it much differently than, say, killing innocent bystanders in Hitman. The game allows you to do it but it doesn't encourage you to do it. It just doesn't block it either. It's not something I do or I'd approve of, but considering it's a more edgy version of the genre I can understand the game not making humans immune to the device that traps and essentially brainwashes living beings. Because, why would they be?

Vodulas,

From what I have read about, the only thing that happens when you capture a human is that it tells you it is inhumane and frowned upon. I have not seen anything mentioning actual consequences beyond that, but it may be that people have not encountered them. If that is the case, the consequences might as well not be there.

Riccosuave, (edited ) do games w Bungie Devs Say Atmosphere Is ‘Soul-Crushing’ Amid Layoffs, Cuts, and Fear of Total Sony Takeover
@Riccosuave@lemmy.world avatar

Imagine buying your freedom from Microsoft only to get acquired by Sony a decade later. I think hindsight being 20/20 they may have just been better off continuing on with Microsoft.

Edit: I’d like to revise my previous position. This is why all devs and studio employees should follow the trend and UNIONIZE IMMEDIATELY.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Under Phil I think they’d be allowed a level of creative freedom but I can’t blame them for wanting to leave under Mattrick; he would have kept them on the Halo hamster wheel forever.

pixel_prophet,

Yea so they got their freedom and made a Halo clone MMO.

Riccosuave,
@Riccosuave@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I totally understand that. I suppose I am biased because I only played the first Destiny game, and to be honest it just always struck me as the Disney Star Wars version of Halo. It just lacked the compelling story elements and refinement of the early Halo games to me, so even back then I wondered if it was worth it for Bungie to separate from Microsoft.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out that’s for sure. This smells to me like an attempt to lock Destiny in as a Sony exclusive perhaps. So, the irony is that exactly what Bungie was trying to avoid in large part by splitting from Microsoft may end up happening anyway…

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Their fate is even sadder in my view, they’re now the live service aid studio. Hopefully Jim Ryan’s replacement can fix that because churning out live service games sounds like a horrible idea

Zoidsberg,
@Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca avatar

Instead of the Destiny hamster wheel? At least people liked Halo.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I loved Halo and thought Destiny was meh, but as they say, hindsight is 20/20

scrubbles, do games w Bungie Devs Say Atmosphere Is ‘Soul-Crushing’ Amid Layoffs, Cuts, and Fear of Total Sony Takeover
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Unfortunately this is just the norm when a company buys another. I give props to the employees thinking it is still Bungie, but it’s not. The second that deal was finalized they became sony employees, and even if on paper they were still Bungie they were always going to become Sony employees.

But business swallows little business. And big business doesn’t care about the jobs it leaves behind, or the people. Bungie as we knew it is dead

GoodEye8,

This isn’t a case of Sony just “swallowing” a little business. As the article states Bungie board of directors is 2 people from Sony and 3 people from Bungie, which means that while Sony technically owns Bungie the Bungie leadership still makes decisions about how to run the company. Supposedly there’s an obligation on Bungie’s part to meet certain financial goals. If Bungie meets those goals Sony can’t take over the company.

The problem is that Bungie isn’t doing well financially. The Sony takeover is an outcome of Bungie not being able to stay financially independent. That means if Bungie wasn’t under Sony then under the same conditions Bungie would most likely go bankrupt instead.

Bungie as we know it being dead has nothing to do with Sony. Bungie management has essentially killed Bungie.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Yes on paper that’s how it’s all laid out. However anyone who has been through a buyout knows that no parent company intends for the child company to act separately indefinitely. The shotgun clause in there saying they have to do well financially proves it to me. What company hasn’t gone through hard times before? Sony may be playing the long game but they’ll get control eventually, they always knew they would. It was inevitable that this would happen. Guarantee it was written this way probably with projections on when it would likely happen.

Which is why I say as soon as a buyout occurs the old company is gone. The cool culture you had, the lenient bosses, the small company style benefits? Gone. It may take a bit, but they’re going away. Papa business is here and he only cares about the profit margin, not the people, not even the product. They may say it’ll stay the same, but drip by drip the company will change, and a few years later you’ll realize you aren’t working for that cool smaller company anymore, you’re working for the big corpos conglomerate.

GoodEye8,

I get being pessimistic especially since we don’t know the details of Sony Bungie deal. But I think you’re not aware how bad it’s going at Bungie. Bungie has a huge burn rate according to Microsoft (they also tried to require Bungie and that was brought up as the biggest risk). Bungie missed their own revenue projections by 45%. When the layoffs happened some of the employees were told that the studio would be in great jeopardy if they were still independent.

Everything we know is pointing at Bungie possibly going bankrupt, if they were still independent. Sony swooping in is just Sony trying to save their 3,6 billion investment.

And I’m not sure why you’re trying to paint a small tight-knit company of Bungie? They have 1000+ employees even after the layoffs. The biggest criticism at Glassdoor is the horrible management. Bungie has been slipping into corporatism well before Sony.

TheMauveAvenger, do games w Waluigi Creator Reveals Scrapped Design for 'Walpeach' in Mario Power Tennis

Shouldn’t it be Wapeach? Or possibly just Weach?

feedum_sneedson,

beach

IanSomnia,

A witch!

Computerchairgeneral, do games w Nearly Half of CD Projekt Now Working on The Witcher 4

On the one hand I'm always excited for more Witcher. On the other hand Cyberpunk 2077. More seriously, I hope they make a great game and it that lives up to the expectations people are going to have for a new Witcher game, but I'm keeping my expectations in check until I see the finished product.

TheDubz87,

I’m hoping the initial backlash from cyberpunk actually registered with them. Other than that I’m also worried about what kind of story and characters they’ll use considering the way the last dlc for witcher 3 ended. Not sure I’ll be into Ciri based gameplay. That was my least favorite part of Witcher 3, and I don’t really want them to retcon the end of blood and wine either to continue with Geralt.

LeafOnTheWind,

I could see them doing interesting things with Ciri’s magic, but there is a good chance they use a different witcher. Or maybe significantly earlier than the existing witcher games? Young Geralt or maybe Vesimir?

Yearly1845,

Could easily pick up with Lambert and Keira

popekingjoe,
@popekingjoe@lemmy.world avatar

“Lambert, Lambert, what a prick.”

Yearly1845,

Not bad.

Tripp1976,

They need to go back in time to when all the witcher schools were still going and you can choose which school you’re a part of at the beginning, make your own witcher instead of one playable character.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

That sounds really bad on paper, tbh. The cool parts about the player character all stem from how it’s a defined person with an existing personality and place in the world. If it becomes Skyrim: Witcher Edition, we’d probably also inherit the shallow~inexistent storytelling of that.

Tywele,

What if it becomes Baldurs Gate 3: Witcher Edition? BG3 also has a player created character without an existing personality and the storytelling is certainly not shallow in that game.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah but one of the biggest pitfalls is seeing another company catch lightning in a bottle, then thinking that this can be freely recreated. Just that BG3 could do a user-created character with a good story does not at all imply that any other company can do it. Nevermind will. Or even that Larian can do it again.

Tripp1976,

While I do kinda agree with you, I think CDPR is a lot better at writing interesting quests and characters than Bethesda. Still not as good as larien but I don’t think it would be todd Howard bad.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure I’ll be into Ciri based gameplay.

I’d love that. Sure they’d have to really re-do her combat style since it was only a brief intermission before, but it feels natural to progress to her eventually. And honestly, it’s high time Geralt takes a bow after 3 games as big as they are, and as awesome as those were. Exit before they eventually ruin him. 😅

TheDubz87,

I agree. After the ending, I was happy my boy could get some rest too lol

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Cyberpunk’s patching has showed me that ~1-1,5 years after release is a really good time to jump in.

By which time, between patches and mods, the worst stuff is dealt with and the experience can be really nice, if a bit tepid due to bad design decisions that mods cannot fix. Still, enjoyable game after patches and at a discount.

And009,

Witcher already has the lore done well. They just need to get the experience right.

TIMMAY,

I believe I heard that some developers in CDPR were going on strike? Has anyone else heard about something like that?

h_a_r_u_k_i,
@h_a_r_u_k_i@programming.dev avatar

I learned the lesson: keep the hope low (so I don’t get disappointed), and never preorder.

sailingbythelee,

Witcher 3 is probably my favourite game of all time, largely because of the semi-parental storyline with Geralt, Yennefer, and Ciri. That said, I think the weakness with the Witcher 1-3 series as a whole is that the plot is too complex. Since most modern AAA RPGs have many, many side quests, I think the main plot of a long RPG should be relatively simple or else risk diluting its dramatic effect.

I feel like CD Projekt Red did a better job with that aspect of story-telling in Cyberpunk, even if the overall emotional arc is less intense than that of Witcher 3. There are lots of cool things to do and interesting side quests in Cyberpunk, but the main arc is pretty simple. You can go off on hours of side quests and still come back to the main plot without forgetting what’s going on.

Facebones, do gaming w IGN posts written review of Cyberpunk: Phantom Liberty, but withholds video review. CDPR is, once again, not letting reviewers use their own gameplay footage before release.

So, it’s still garbage lmao

Hyperreality,

The last time I played Cyberpunk, it was actually good fun. Game was a bit empty, and it was pretty obvious they'd been forced to cut a lot of stuff, but I played it for several hundred hours without too many bugs. Pretty and ran well on my budget pc too.

As always, patience is a virtue.

Facebones,

I picked it up on a whim, scoffed at it after a couple of hours and never touched it again. I’ll give it a go once this update drops though.

madkins,

That was how I started. I played less than a couple hours and got pulled away by another game. I picked it up months later, made it through the prologue, get invested in the characters, and ended up really loving it.

Delphia,

The intro/prologue is a bit slow and dense. I had to convince a friend who got bored and gave up to slog through it and get to the open game.

He loved it by the time he finished it.

Facebones,

Anyone know when the update goes live?

kautau,

Sept 21 for 2.0 update. Sept 26 for DLC release

Delphia,

Yeah I played it earlier this year and no complaints, it was a great game.

NuPNuA,

Yep, it’s been solid, at least on Series X for a few years now since the patch that brought it to a solid 60fps.

Dragonmind, do games w Ubisoft's XDefiant Delayed After Being Rejected by PlayStation and Xbox - IGN

Either both platforms restricted Passes to harder validation after Cyberpunk 2077 or XDefiant is BUGGIER than Cyberpunk 2077

kaitco,

Like, seriously? How bad does a game have to be to fail from such a major Publisher?

otter,

Yea I’d expect something like that from an indie developer that’s not familiar with the approval process

Why would they submit if they weren’t sure if was going to pass lol

GreenMario,

Ubisoft is a big company. I can see it as the devs saying “it’s not ready” and some exec, high on his if you believe hard enough it’s true bullshit and said either submit it or find another job.

Maybe they thought their checks cleared?

Or, it’s a security violation. Maybe the game accidentally opens a door to allow unsigned software to run.

GhostMatter,

Best comment here. Either exec (with overconfidence or deadlines), or security violation seem most likely. Surprising that it’s for both platforms though…

VioletRing,

I've never played Cyberpunk, but watched my husband play for a lot of hours. I played Xdefiant's beta for a day in June. I'm puzzled by why it didn't pass. Beta was not buggy, had maybe one minor issue with it. My guess is security violation.

Son_of_dad,

I can’t even play Borderlands 3 on my ps4, it crashes repeatedly and is completely unplayable. Somehow this garbage made it past the quality control

GunnarRunnar,

More likely is that Cyberpunk was that big of game that neither platform wasn't willing to risk losing sales for not being out day 1.

MurrayL,

Or neither. Platform cert doesn’t directly correlate to how many bugs a game has, it’s a set of very specific test cases that software has to pass to be approved for release: show the correct button prompts for the platform, have correctly-implemented achievements/trophies, show correct error messages, etc.

Some of the tests do include things like ‘don’t crash during normal operation’, but the failures could be almost anything. (Source: am a developer)

ReverseModule, do gaming w Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN
@ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I agree 1000000000% with them. One console called PC. :)

DanNZN,

Even PC is broken down into Windows, Linux and Mac.

Borat,
@Borat@lemmynsfw.com avatar

So, everyone on Linux then.

Neon,

Linux was so unable to handle my 3 Monitors (granted, all with different Resolution and refresh-rate, but still) that i had to switch back to Windows today.

gnome-shell started crashing, Firefox and Gnome-Web started crashing for whatever reason. it was a Mess.

but otherwise i still love NixOS

communist,
@communist@beehaw.org avatar

This is not a normal experience. I use 3 monitors and Linux runs better than windows significantly.

sandriver,

Some of that is on GNOME. I had to swap back to KDE after a couple years on GNOME due to lack of VR compatibility. GNOME is good for newbies and productivity, but completely unusable for gaming.

flakusha,

Gnome and productivity laughs in sway

No offence, gnome is great, but there are many inconsistencies on the lover level, I wish it was figured out once and for all. It applies to big DEs like KDE and etc too.

Borat,
@Borat@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Never had that issue, your experience may vary based on your hardware and software. I use Arch, sway (wayland), AMDGPU, multiple monitors with mixed refresh rates, everything works great.

Neon,

NixOS with Gnome Wayland, a 4K 60hz TV, a 144hz WQHD and a 60Hz 1080p Monitor
it would often happen that one Screen would just freeze. my Web Browsers would just crash, especially if i was opening a Video.
and the Gnome-Shell itself would crash and put me into the Login Screen.
sometimes the whole Computer would crash and become unresponsive and not even alt+ctrl+n would help anymore

Borat,
@Borat@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Do you by any chance have an Nvidia GPU? I hear Wayland is still very buggy on Nvidia, I’d only recommend it on AMDGPU, otherwise use Xorg for now.

Neon,

yes, Nvidia.

i don't really like XOrg, it just always feels inferior to Wayland or even Windows.
which is why i am currently using windows until [the Problems get fixed | i upgrade my PC (to an AMD GPU)]

yukichigai, do games w Final Fantasy Maker Square Enix Will Aggressively Pursue a Multiplatform Strategy After Profits Tumble
@yukichigai@kbin.social avatar

Who would've thought that making your product more readily available would increase sales? That's so much more counterintuitive than "double down on NFTs and release schedules that require knowledge of calculus to figure out."

Mango,

Exclusivity idiots don’t understand surface area increases reaction.

Aielman15, do games w Final Fantasy Maker Square Enix Will Aggressively Pursue a Multiplatform Strategy After Profits Tumble
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

SE releases have been all over the place recently. Sometimes it’s PS exclusives, sometimes Nintendo exclusives, sometimes console exclusives, sometimes they release on PS and Nintendo but not Xbox…

I was an XOne user a few years back and it was exhausting. PC side it’s a bit better, except that their flagship series is locked on PS for who knows how long, and then locked on Epic Store for one more year.

As a potential customer, I didn’t feel exactly welcomed. I was interested in FFXVI, but didn’t have a PS5 (I still don’t). Now I don’t have the time to play long-ass games anymore, which means that by the time it will finally be released on PC, I won’t probably buy it.

I was someone who was willing to give them money, and they refused it time and time again. I’m sorry for their difficult situation, as Square has created some great games from my childhood that I will forever cherish (both as Square Soft and Square Enix), but let’s be honest, this is their fault.

I hope they follow through with this decision, though. I doubt I’ll be a customer, but maybe they’ll make some kids as happy as I was when I was their age and playing those old FF titles. People deserve to play those games without being told to buy two different consoles and/or wait an eternity and a half for exclusive deals to expire.

aStonedSanta,

This is very true. And it’s interesting in that generally Ubisoft has been fine across all platforms. And yet Japanese companies seem to CRAVE exclusivity. Have they not seen franchises like Assasins creed and Far cry and thought. Yeah I want that money too?

aniki,

I gave up years ago. It’s just better to wait.

TheSpermWhale, do games w Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection Launch Is a Disaster - IGN
@TheSpermWhale@lemmy.world avatar

Another game launch, another broken game. How hard is it to just release a game that works? This is a port as well - pretty much their entire job with this was fixing issues and optimisation

PrettyLights,

I want to blame the company but from their point of view this business model works so I understand why it keeps happening.

Steam refunds are great for situations like these but I doubt the average casual knows how easy it is. The other platforms are much stricter on refunds.

There’s also the culture shift of gamers defending broken releases with “at least they fixed it!” Or “they released a roadmap for future fixes” that encourages early releases.

beebarfbadger,

How hard is it to just release a game that works?

Harder than delivering shit and cashing in just as much. The grab&run simply is more profitable than actually putting in the work - especially since there seem to be no palpable negative consequences.

Theharpyeagle,

A game with a working version on the same platform and distribution program, no less!

eutsgueden, do games w You Can Capture Humans In Palword

It’s a game. Stop manufacturing issues.

jedibob5,

As far as the ethics of it, whatever, there are games where you can do worse. I just think it’s annoying that the devs went this far out of their way to cynically controversy-bait up attention for themselves. There was no need for this - it adds nothing to the gameplay beyond shock value.

wildginger,

Thats half of the games steam page. They definitely play up the ethical dilemma aspect of the gameplay

raptir, do games w Red Dead Redemption Update 1.03 Quietly Adds 60fps

I wish they would bring this to PC.

CaptainEffort,

It’s like they want people to emulate it. I really don’t understand the decision

Zorque,

They don't want to dig into the spaghetti code to make it work.

And considering the lukewarm response to the shitty San Andreas port, they probably don't want to risk more bad publicity by farming it out to the lowest bidder... again.

echo64,

They already had to. How do you think the new versions were made?

sugar_in_your_tea,

They have two options when it comes to a port:

  • do it right
  • pay someone to do it quickly

They have consistently done the second, which makes absolutely no sense to me since doing it right would mean they could bring great old games to a new audience. All they need to do is increase framerate caps (and fix bugs caused by that), increase render resolution, and improve texture quality. They should have all of the original files, so this shouldn’t require a ton of effort, even if the code is a mess.

GTA SA and friends was terrible because it didn’t look anything like the originals since it was a mobile port. Nobody asked for big changes, just a few QOO updates. The same is true for RDR, we just want to play it on PC with higher FPS and whatnot, we don’t expect anything groundbreaking. If it’s easier, they could port the campaign to RDR2 (they already have a lot of the models) and then not have to maintain the older codebase. Surely that’s an option too.

Davel23,

They want people to buy the console release now, then buy it again when they announce the PC version in a year.

ThunderingJerboa,
@ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, have no clue why people don't think they are just doing this. They literally did this with RDR 2. Like we aren't in the days of the 360 and PS3 where consoles were very weird architecturally. Things have been mostly smoothed out and porting while can be quite a task especially if you want to do it right (however Rockstar hasn't done great with doing it right) but its far more trivial compared to the past.

Davel23,

They did it with GTA 4 and 5 as well.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

The code was lost as far as I am aware.

Vash63, do games w Counter-Strike 2 Players Express Disappointment as Many of CS:GO's Key Features Disappear

I love it. I do wish they had opened up mods and community servers before launch but the core game plays and looks so good. Most of the missing modes were never core to the game, hopefully they add some of them back after reworking them later (DZ?). It runs even better than GO did on Linux too.

serratur,

It runs even better than GO did on Linux too.

So you dont have to start the game 15 times for it to work?

Vilian,

i never had to do it, it just slowd

ElectroLisa,
@ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Or fiddle around with launch parameters to hear anything in-game?

UrPartnerInCrime,

Sounds like steam pulled an epic

cawifre, do gaming w Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Addresses Studio Closures

That is a whole lot of talk about how much Xbox cares about its people and a whole lot of handwaving about why Xbox needed to decide to sacrifice its people in great swaths.

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