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moakley, do games w Dragon Age veteran says scrapped Anthem Next "could have been" up there with No Man's Sky's legendary turnaround

Honestly Anthem was so fucking good. It’s a victim of the internet hate machine.

My hobby is video games, but some people’s hobby is hating things, and those people decided that Anthem was the next thing to hate. The hate was insanely disproportionate to the actual problems that Anthem had.

The endgame grind needed some work, but that’s always the case with a live service game. Comparing it to Destiny, which had been out for five years at that point, there wasn’t a lot of content. Comparing it to video games in general, it was fine. Easily worth the cost of a new game.

Graphics-wise? Top notch, triple-A.

And as far as gameplay, the actual most important part of a game? Anthem was a fucking masterpiece. The combat was fun and varied. Classes were distinct.

And the traversal was the best I’ve ever played. Soaring through the air like Iron Man and dipping into a waterfall so my suit doesn’t overheat is one of the video game highlights of my life.

But the internet ruined it. The same outrage machine that was built to respond to things like “a sense of pride and accomplishment” was turned on Anthem, not because it was that bad, but because there wasn’t anything else particularly hate-worthy that week.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

It’s got a 61 on OpenCritic, and Brad Shoemaker of NextLander said he thought long and hard about giving it 1/5 stars at the time (ultimately giving it a 2/5) because the game didn’t even really work when it launched. That wouldn’t really indicate it was just something the internet wanted to hate that week.

bytesonbike,

I don’t think we played the game because Anthem was boring. I enjoyed being Iron Man but after an hour. But after that, it was kinda same ol’ for the next few hours.

I had more fun with Suicide Squad, because the city was awesome and the story was at least passable.

I did like the first hour - no question. But I think Anthem needed to cook some more. A lot more.

collapse_already,

I think the worst thing BioWare did was ban people for loot exploiting when all they were doing was flying around in a loop collecting chests as they spawned. The players weren’t doing anything the game didn’t allow and banning them really created vitriol in the community. When added to the lack of end game, the player base just never got any growth momentum. It was really sad, because I was a huge BW fan and that game plus the loss of the Doctors really wrecked them (thanks EA /s). You could see the potential in Anthem, but it felt like a a great game engine waiting for the game to be written for it (honestly similar to pre-Forsaken Destiny 2, but even that had more content).

Davel23, do games w Dragon Age veteran says scrapped Anthem Next "could have been" up there with No Man's Sky's legendary turnaround

Sure, Jan.

BurgerBaron,
@BurgerBaron@piefed.social avatar

Sure are a lot of articles about a shit confused failure of a game getting shut down.

SpacePirate, do games w Dragon Age veteran says scrapped Anthem Next "could have been" up there with No Man's Sky's legendary turnaround

And I “could have been” a millionaire if I bought cryptocurrency in 2010.

Hindsight’s 20/20.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

I almost caught the biggest fish of my life yesterday.

DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w Dragon Age veteran says scrapped Anthem Next "could have been" up there with No Man's Sky's legendary turnaround

It could have been the next Destiny.

EA fucked up

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

After the litany of fuck ups Bungie did, nobody should want to be the next Destiny.

rafoix,

You make a good point. I’m glad it died because mindless grind with RNG loot is boring as shit.

otacon239, do games w Dragon Age veteran says scrapped Anthem Next "could have been" up there with No Man's Sky's legendary turnaround

I’ve watched a few videos on the game and with this claim, I think they would have needed the ten years that NMS had, but there just isn’t as much of a unique idea underneath. Unless I was missing something Anthem was just a really pretty looter shooter with a cool suit.

It’s a pretty game, I’ll give it that, but they would have had to strip and rebuild the gameplay loop pretty much from scratch to make it that much of a success story.

bytesonbike,

Agreed!

NMS kept listening to feedback for years before it turned around, slowly building up good faith with each free release.

But let’s say Anthem Next magically turned it around. All that good faith will be gone when EA will try to shoehorn more looter shooter microtransaction BS and fuck everything up over and over again.

wirelesswire, do games w Dragon Age veteran says scrapped Anthem Next "could have been" up there with No Man's Sky's legendary turnaround

“Anthem actually had the code for local servers running in a dev environment right up until a few months before launch,” Darrah continued. “I don’t know that they still work, but the code is there to be salvaged and recovered. The reason you do this, it pulls away the costs of maintaining this game. So rather than having dedicated servers that are required for the game to run, you let the server run on one of the machines that’s playing the game.” This, he added, could have worked alongside an additional move to add AI party members to the game, allowing people to play it like a single-player game.

Ok, this is even more heartbreaking now. I loved the concept of Anthem and had a fair bit of fun with the game in its current (prior to shutdown) state and was hopeful that the “Next” project would overhaul it into something great. I still don’t blame EA for their decisions in this case; Bioware fucked around for way too long during development and the overhaul project was most likely seen as too little, too late… or too expensive.

ampersandrew, do games w Dragon Age veteran says scrapped Anthem Next "could have been" up there with No Man's Sky's legendary turnaround
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

“Anthem actually had the code for local servers running in a dev environment right up until a few months before launch,” Darrah continued. “I don’t know that they still work, but the code is there to be salvaged and recovered. The reason you do this, it pulls away the costs of maintaining this game. So rather than having dedicated servers that are required for the game to run, you let the server run on one of the machines that’s playing the game.” This, he added, could have worked alongside an additional move to add AI party members to the game, allowing people to play it like a single-player game.

Fuck, man…all the reasons to do so are spelled out right there.

cybervseas, do games w With OD and Physint in the works, Hideo Kojima says Kojima Productions is heading towards its "Third Phase," with the creator to focus on "staying grounded and laying solid foundations" in 2026

“Staying grounded” implies Kojima is currently grounded.

Coelacanth, do games w With OD and Physint in the works, Hideo Kojima says Kojima Productions is heading towards its "Third Phase," with the creator to focus on "staying grounded and laying solid foundations" in 2026
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

While it win the Indie Award, I wonder?

SolarPunker,

Still indie from Konami

UnderpantsWeevil, do games w With OD and Physint in the works, Hideo Kojima says Kojima Productions is heading towards its "Third Phase," with the creator to focus on "staying grounded and laying solid foundations" in 2026
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar
Comrade_Squid, do games w We'll probably never see a Grand Theft Auto set in a futuristic city like GTA 2 because the team "hated it": "People didn’t connect with the game or its city"
@Comrade_Squid@lemmy.ml avatar

I played the hell out of GTA 2, had a 3 disk box containing 1 2 and London. And only now I’m bring told it was set in the future!

justaman123,

Yeah I thought it was just a mismatch of all different kinds. Like the 20s and 30s gangster cars and then random car styles from other eras

funksoulkitchen,

The London one was awesome!

EarMaster, do games w We'll probably never see a Grand Theft Auto set in a futuristic city like GTA 2 because the team "hated it": "People didn’t connect with the game or its city"
@EarMaster@lemmy.world avatar

Am I the only one who never realized it was supposed to be a futuristic city? To be honest my English wasn’t that good at the time I played it, but that information never clicked with me.

Agent_Karyo, do games w We'll probably never see a Grand Theft Auto set in a futuristic city like GTA 2 because the team "hated it": "People didn’t connect with the game or its city"

I am honestly surprised that so many people thought GTA2 was the best.

I understand that a significant portion of the Threadi demographic probably grew up on the first two games, but even wit that factor I wouldn’t have thought it was that popular.

saimen, do games w We'll probably never see a Grand Theft Auto set in a futuristic city like GTA 2 because the team "hated it": "People didn’t connect with the game or its city"

It’s some 20 years ago I played it but I don’t remember it as being futuristic at all? Seemed like a normal city to me or what am I missing?

njm1314,

Apparently it had some weird weapons, which we’ve never seen in other Grand Theft Auto surely…

TimeNaan,

It was more like retro-futurism of the 1970s

Kolanaki, do games w We'll probably never see a Grand Theft Auto set in a futuristic city like GTA 2 because the team "hated it": "People didn’t connect with the game or its city"
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

We probably won’t see a GTA doing it anyway because Watch Dogs, Crackdown and Cyberpunk are already basically that.

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