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ClockworkOtter, do games w Assassin's Creed is a "forever brand" because Ubisoft supported huge risks with it, ex director says: "Whereas, say, EA, you get these awful execs and they never made games and they came from toothpaste companies"

Controversial opinion: I like comfort games these days.

The first AC came out when I was in high school, and my one of my favourite bands for a good few years released their first album around then as well. I may not have as much time or love for either now, but I still get a nice buzz when I engage with a new release - especially when it does something a bit different (even if not revolutionary) compared to previous ones.

XeroxCool,

Life’s too short to avoid something you actually enjoy just because other people told you it’s not good enough.

rustydrd, do games w Assassin's Creed is a "forever brand" because Ubisoft supported huge risks with it, ex director says: "Whereas, say, EA, you get these awful execs and they never made games and they came from toothpaste companies"
@rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

The Assassin’s Creed franchise nowadays seems more like one of those slushy machines at the mall that perpetually move the same ingredients around in a neverending cycle of despair and stagnation.

1.ceramics926,

Poetic and miserable, I may not be able to bear looking at a slushy machine the same way.

yunglucifer, do games w Assassin's Creed is a "forever brand" because Ubisoft supported huge risks with it, ex director says: "Whereas, say, EA, you get these awful execs and they never made games and they came from toothpaste companies"

Weird, Assassin’s Creed died with 2 when they fired the creator.

Blaiz0r,

Is that why the third one never concluded the series as it was originally intended?

MaggiWuerze,
@MaggiWuerze@feddit.org avatar

Probably more to do with boatloads of money to be made

RightHandOfIkaros,

Okay but Black Flag slapped. Maybe not as an AC game per se, but Black Flag was still a greater game.

Senseless,

Agreed. Black Flag was awesome. Never finished the story though. Just sailing, singing shanties.

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

And Rogue. I rarely hear Rogue mentioned but it’s my favourite. I find the story the most appealing, and it comes with so much moral ambiguity.

eRac,

Being released at the same time as the significantly more modern (and unpopular) Unity didn’t do Rogue any favors.

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

Gameplay-wise, Rogue is even better than Black Flag. Narratively, Rogue is a disaster fueled by Shay being painfully stupid.

halcyoncmdr,
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

Black Flag was a mediocre Assassin’s Creed game, at best. It was a phenomenal pirate game

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Sad because 2 is where it hit its stride

nullpotential, do games w Assassin's Creed is a "forever brand" because Ubisoft supported huge risks with it, ex director says: "Whereas, say, EA, you get these awful execs and they never made games and they came from toothpaste companies"

Toothpas?

afaix,

Like gamepass, but tooth

mohab, do games w Assassin's Creed is a "forever brand" because Ubisoft supported huge risks with it, ex director says: "Whereas, say, EA, you get these awful execs and they never made games and they came from toothpaste companies"

🎶 Assassin’s Creed is a good franchise 🎶

SCmSTR, do games w Assassin's Creed is a "forever brand" because Ubisoft supported huge risks with it, ex director says: "Whereas, say, EA, you get these awful execs and they never made games and they came from toothpaste companies"

You know how in tv shows or movies in the 90s, there were always a pair of villains or goons that worked for the main villain and were comic relief? Like the Jessie & James pair in Pokemon or the two guys in power rangers or whatever I’m thinking of.

Remember how occasionally, like if it were two guys, they’d fight between the two of them, on-screen?

I don’t know why this memory popped up. Curious…

ObamaBinLaden, do games w Assassin's Creed is a "forever brand" because Ubisoft supported huge risks with it, ex director says: "Whereas, say, EA, you get these awful execs and they never made games and they came from toothpaste companies"

Assassin’s Creed’s shift to open-world RPGs would never have happened at many companies, Alex Hutchinson says

Literally everyone and their mother could have expected this change. It’s literally the one single way AAA studios have been padding gameplay and time for a decade and a half now.

Cybersteel,
@Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

Even From and Zelda went open world.

brendansimms,

Zelda is classically open world though - since the og nintendo

dukemirage,

Ubisoft codified a certain style of open world design that many other AAA releases were using as a template. He’s right, you can’t deny the impact the franchise had.

prole,

Oh yeah, climbing a tower to unlock a part of the map is so innovative, especially after the 15th fucking time they used it.

dukemirage,

Ii didn’t use the word innovative, mind you

Katana314,

I’ve always felt the tower thing was unfair.

It WAS a good idea when first used. And, when imported across to Far Cry, they also tried to come up with new forms of climbing and even puzzles to get you up. Then, simply because the internet made memes about it through repeat emphasis (repeating an old mechanic alone isn’t necessarily a bad thing) they responded, took the system out, and even lampshaded it in Far Cry 5 - WHILE other devs as far as Nintendo/Zelda were copying it.

Theres a lot to condemn Ubisoft for, but the towers thing always irked me. Call open worlds as a whole boring, but it suggests it’s not the sort of game to keep your interest anyway.

Kaldo,

You say that and I can kinda agree with it, and I can see them agreeing with it... but I recently got FC5 on a discount and despite it all - it still felt like the exact same game as every previous one. So artificially gamey and forced in some interactions, so predictable in its plot and map exploration structure...

I don't think it ends up feeling that different at all. Maybe you zipline up the towers today and they just discover POIs instead of removing map fog, but it's still the same crap, just served differently

TronBronson,

Bro we were climbing towers in Zelda for the thing in 1997.

TronBronson,

I feel like Nintendo 64 was the real OG adapter of open world RPGs. The success of Mario 64 and legend of Zelda had already proven the genre wildly profitable

zipzoopaboop,

And the series is worse for it

itkovian, do games w Assassin's Creed is a "forever brand" because Ubisoft supported huge risks with it, ex director says: "Whereas, say, EA, you get these awful execs and they never made games and they came from toothpaste companies"

Assassin’s Creed is about equivalent to Colgate, I guess.

lukalix98,

I’m clueless, what happened to Colgate?

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Some scandal. A Colgategate, if you will.

brsrklf, do games w Assassin's Creed is a "forever brand" because Ubisoft supported huge risks with it, ex director says: "Whereas, say, EA, you get these awful execs and they never made games and they came from toothpaste companies"

Oh yeah, these terrible execs from other companies who veto female protagonists on principle, insist on implementing the same list of a thousand terrible features in all games regardless of genre, and harass their employees while being protected by HR and the CEO.

Wait, no, those are not the bad ones. You know the bad ones because they’ve worked for toothpaste companies.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Assassin's Creed is a "forever brand" because Ubisoft supported huge risks with it, ex director says: "Whereas, say, EA, you get these awful execs and they never made games and they came from toothpaste companies"

Most self-aware Ubisoft employee quoted in post title

NoForwardslashS, do games w Assassin's Creed is a "forever brand" because Ubisoft supported huge risks with it, ex director says: "Whereas, say, EA, you get these awful execs and they never made games and they came from toothpaste companies"

“Forever brand” really has “forever chemicals” vibes.

makyo,

That and the risktaking bit give the headline two rofl’s

ZoteTheMighty,

“This franchise will never have a meaningful conclusion, but I hope you gave up on that nonsense by the end of Black Flag”

echodot, do games w Ex-PlayStation boss says the games industry is "littered" with Fortnite clones and "people trying to do Overwatch with different skins," but keep dreaming if you're just trying to get "big sacks of money"

Surely he knows that Fortnite is itself the clone. He has to know that they didn’t start the battle royale genre they just cutesy it up and monetize the hell out of it.

It was actually a good game when it was in beta and the building mechanics actually had some sort of point. Then they pivoted and went in the battle of royale genre and it became a microtransaction lootbox nightmare.

logan_hero,

Why tf fortnite keeps getting called “lootbox nightmare” around here despite

  1. There never were lootboxes in br
  2. Lootboxes being gone for like 6 years already
  3. Already slapped for using lootboxes when they were active
RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Ex-PlayStation boss says the games industry is "littered" with Fortnite clones and "people trying to do Overwatch with different skins," but keep dreaming if you're just trying to get "big sacks of money"

This isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes people want the same kind of game with a different flavor. Maybe they don’t like the PUBG art style and would rather play Fortnite instead, or perhaps they don’t like Overwatch because of Blizzard and are okay with Marvel Rivals from NetEase instead.

I don’t believe that games should exist with no real competitors. That’s how you end up with games like Dead by Daylight, where community sentiment plummets but the developers have no real reason to do anything about it because where are the players going to go?

vane, do games w Ex-PlayStation boss says the games industry is "littered" with Fortnite clones and "people trying to do Overwatch with different skins," but keep dreaming if you're just trying to get "big sacks of money"

Gamers Literally Only Want One Thing And It’s Fucking Disgusting. Pew Pew Pew.

obinice, do games w Ex-PlayStation boss says the games industry is "littered" with Fortnite clones and "people trying to do Overwatch with different skins," but keep dreaming if you're just trying to get "big sacks of money"
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

I want them big sacks of mo!

Agent_Karyo,

If you Piefed, you'll get big sacks of money instead.

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