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SquigglyEmpire, do games w Xbox is still committed to making consoles, says boss Phil Spencer

It’s never a good sign when you have to say something like that…

Shadywack,
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“Any man who must say ‘I am the King’ is no true king.”

Kolanaki,
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Didn’t Aragorn have to tell those ghost dudes he was the king to get them to fulfill their oath? 🤔

Shadywack,
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Yeah, and it went something like “Hay, I am TEH KING” Ghost dudes be like “lolwut? Fuq, die bitch” Aragorn blocks attack with Anduril “Oh shit, lmao, sorry, we gotchu bruh”

THEN he was teh kang.

Defaced, do games w Xbox is still committed to making consoles, says boss Phil Spencer

The only reason they want their games on multiple platforms is so they can prove they’re not trying to buy up studios for exclusivity. This is the main objective here folks. They don’t care about being on more than one platform, they just don’t want to fight the FTC again when they try to buy up sega, square enix, take2, embracer or whoever the fuck they want to buy next. Remember, this is the same arrogant bullshit company that wanted to buy Nintendo and got laughed out of the conference room.

rimjob_rainer, do games w From Software is "working hard on Elden Ring DLC" but still doesn't have a release date "at this time"

I just finished it the first time and hoped to play the DLC soon, because I usually don’t come back to a game for DLC. Quite disappointing.

PopMyCop,

Something makes me think this is not going to be your typical DLC. I wish they would have given the entire industry the middle finger and said something like, “This will be an expansion pack, in contrast to all the half-hour extras that piss producers push as DLC.”

Because honestly, this long of a development time for anything less than an expansion, like the old days where you get 50-100% more game, seems crazy.

t3rmit3, (edited ) do gaming w Reuters claims Nintendo Switch 2 is expected later this year

My Switch 2 (bottom) next to my Switch Lite, running Pokemon Dreams. It’s available now!

De_Narm, do games w From Software is "working hard on Elden Ring DLC" but still doesn't have a release date "at this time"

They probably need some more time to make the new swamp extra swamp-y.

But in all seriousness, Miyazaki hasn’t disappointed me yet. He can take all the time he wants to, I’ll be there to get it once it drops. Be that tomorrow or in several years.

Kolanaki, do games w From Software is "working hard on Elden Ring DLC" but still doesn't have a release date "at this time"
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I kinda figured those rumors were bullshit. They may be secretive, but Fromsoft still wouldn’t just quietly release a major dlc for one of the biggest titles they’ve ever made.

Shit must be massive for it to take this long, though, without much news other than a title, and two updates that they are still working on it.

Krudler, do games w From Software is "working hard on Elden Ring DLC" but still doesn't have a release date "at this time"

I played ER 3x no-wiki… I am fine with a decent break, it will hopefully make the new content that much more savoury

Suavevillain, do games w From Software is "working hard on Elden Ring DLC" but still doesn't have a release date "at this time"
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Take your time. There is no rush.

Sanctus, do games w From Software is "working hard on Elden Ring DLC" but still doesn't have a release date "at this time"
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Thats okay FromSoft, you go when you feel like it. I will instantly pick ER back up.

Potatos_are_not_friends, do games w From Software is "working hard on Elden Ring DLC" but still doesn't have a release date "at this time"

I’m currently playing Elden Ring and it’s so freaking massive. It’s incredible what From soft choice to include. There’s whole areas that are completely gated for a hard-to-find side quest, that you’ll only discover if you happen to follow a guide.

Any other company would have chopped the content and put it in a DLC.

And here they’re like, “We got more just wait.”

dinckelman, do games w From Software is "working hard on Elden Ring DLC" but still doesn't have a release date "at this time"

A delayed game/dlc is always better than a rushed one

jroid8,

A delayed game/dlc is always better than crunch time (sacrificing your humanity and working 18h a day)

dinckelman,

That’s a whole separate can of worms. I don’t have any respect for studios, that actually force people to work hours like this, just to hit some arbitrary deadline, that they imposed on themselves

sunbunman,

Larian really knocked it out of the park having 3 studios around the globe so they can still have a 24hr workflow without pushing everyone to do overtime. I really want to know what their handover procedures are.

_sideffect, do games w From Software is "working hard on Elden Ring DLC" but still doesn't have a release date "at this time"

Sounds like it’ll be pretty big and worthwhile

comrade19, do games w Xbox is still committed to making consoles, says boss Phil Spencer

I wish they would let you install windows on them, but then i guess id be buying games on steam not Microsoft store / gamepass

kadu, do games w Xbox is still committed to making consoles, says boss Phil Spencer
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  • Redacted,
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    Having been predominantly a PC gamer for 30 years… PCs more hassle to update and maintain. When I finish work I want to sit on my sofa and play with as little inconvenience as possible.

    Consoles fit nicely in a living room and are better for local multiplayer. This generation they were also cheaper than buying the equivalent PC hardware at launch.

    woelkchen,
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    PCs more hassle to update and maintain.

    That’s Windows, not PCs in general. Steam Deck is an example of a PC system done right where the OS just works and tinkering is optional.

    Redacted,
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    I mean desktop, wouldn’t really class the Deck as a PC.

    Been tempted to get one but I use the Switch or cloud gaming on the go so have most bases covered already.

    woelkchen,
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    And I meant that the majority of “PC maintenance” originates from Windows. Tasks like dust removal from cooling vents isn’t a daily thing (and applies to consoles just the same).

    Redacted,
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    True, but if I’m spending thousands on a machine, I tend to want to be able to do other things on it so unfortunately Windows usually enters the equation.

    Will consider a dedicated SteamOS box when I next refresh.

    woelkchen,
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    True, but if I’m spending thousands on a machine, I tend to want to be able to do other things on it so unfortunately Windows usually enters the equation.

    Then it’s still Windows maintenance, not PC maintenance. For Intel and AMD GPUs, any regular convenience Linux distribution (like Fedora) works with negligible maintenance. It’s only those NVidia users or people who feel the urge to tweak everything steer themselves into maintenance hell.

    Redacted,
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    Surely you still have to update drivers and OS?!

    I dual boot Linux on my PC and run it on Raspberry Pis. Let’s not pretend it requires zero maintenance.

    woelkchen,
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    Surely you still have to update drivers and OS?!

    Drivers are part of the OS and OS updates happen everywhere. Game consoles or Steam Deck are no exceptions.

    Zozano,
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    The Steam Deck IS a PC though. You can install SteamOS on your computer if you wanted to.

    For the purpose of the argument the other user was making, it is functionally similar enough to consoles that it doesn’t feel like a PC, unless you want it to. So really, it suits everyone.

    OswaldBuzzbald,

    Not to mention that it is literally a PC. It even has a full desktop environment mode running KDE.

    Redacted, (edited )
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    You are correct by the technical definition, I apologise for suggesting the Steam Deck is not a PC lol.

    What sort of things do you run on yours? I’d have thought it being a handheld it wouldn’t be that useful for anything I’d want to run on it as it wouldn’t be always on or connected.

    My preference is a dedicated desktop box I can upgrade and potentially run some services like DNS, PiHole and some automated scripts on. I’d rather spend the money on that and keep using the Switch or cloud gaming when I’m on the go.

    OswaldBuzzbald,

    No need to apologize friend. I just always want to inform everyone that the Steam Deck is capable of being used as a PC on the go if you have some peripherals. I have some third party launchers, and emulation stuff on my desktop side. I also have KeePass and a Google Drive for my passwords. I personally don’t use it for any other desktop activities because I have my laptop and my desktop for that, but it could handle those tasks (word processing and office tasks, general web browsing, etc) just like my other computers do. I even bought a nice little keyboard and have a wireless mouse for my Steam Deck, as well as a portable screen.

    As far as homelab and server applications like Pihole, yeah I would probably not run those on the Steam Deck either, but I also wouldn’t put them on a laptop or my desktop. I put those on my homelab server running Proxmox because I turn my desktop off when it’s not in use.

    Redacted, (edited )
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    Yes hence why I corrected to desktop. Sorry, just always used to using PC and desktop as interchangeable terms but see why you’d want to differentiate these days.

    My point is I don’t want a handheld that I have to plug in. If I’m going the PC route I’d prefer a desktop box I can upgrade so although the Deck is great, it doesn’t suit literally all use cases.

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  • datavoid,

    How is the latency in moonlight? Thinking about trying it

    Redacted,
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    Ok but most of my games use Quick Resume so I am playing in under 15 seconds. To be honest the Switch has taken the crown for picking up where you left off since 2017.

    I’ve used Moonlight but prefer not to stream really. Would be interested in how the latency is these days.

    In the past I’d have said PC all the way but these days I’m glad both options exist. Biggest draw to the PC for me is mods. Would be tempted to make a dedicated SteamOS box next gen.

    woelkchen,
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    I would be a thousand times happier in a world without consoles. Games are published everywhere, and “consoles” are just prepackaged PCs from Microsoft or Sony for people who do not want to build a PC themselves

    What do you think current PS and Xbox consoles are? They are all just PC hardware with each a custom OS as differentiating feature. A world in which everything has to run Windows is definitively much worse than the current state.

    B0NK3RS,
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    That’s a odd stance to take. How would you be a thousand times happier if consoles didn’t exist?

    Consoles still have their place in gaming and to think otherwise is somewhere ignorant. Just live the best of both worlds like the rest of us and don’t get so wound up!

    kadu,
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  • 0ops,

    Then don’t buy a console? How does your neighbor Bob playing on his Xbox series s affect you at all?

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  • 0ops,

    I mean duh, I can make up any strawman I want and say “there’s a difference”.

    No one said that you wanted to commit console genocide, just that your neighbors Xbox is none of your business and you really ought to take a chill pill and game how you please.

    B0NK3RS,
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    I’m about to blow your mind…

    You get to decide.

    You decide where to (or not to) buy and play the games you want. Like I said there is no requirement to stick to 1 platform and you honestly sound so wound up by this opinion I’m astounded.

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  • B0NK3RS,
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    We’re talking video games here. Nothing else.

    echodot,

    That is the most ridiculous straw man argument I’ve never heard

    You live in a country you are invested in a country which is why leaving it is so difficult. You’re talking about just not buying a console, it’s the difference between altering a way of life that is being fine up until now versus not getting engaged in one in the first place.

    It’s completely different.

    Eggyhead,
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    Yeah I probably would never have even gotten into gaming if it weren’t for consoles. PC games are fun, but gaming on a PC is not for everybody.

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  • Eggyhead, (edited )
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    I’d say that’s because PCs have become more console-like. I’m personally gaming a lot on a deck now, although I still have zero desire to hunker down behind a desk and fiddle around with a mouse and keyboard, tinkering with settings and whatnot. Deck is a nice middle ground, and having access to a lot of older PC classics is fantastic.

    lazycouchpotato,
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    I’d rather see consoles open up to being general purpose PCs, than not see consoles at all.

    Valve got it right with the Steam Deck. I enjoy accessing my game library from SteamOS and using the Desktop Mode when I need to be productive.

    If the Xbox had an option to boot into Windows, they’d be selling the Xbox like hot cakes. It would keep users invested in Windows as a platform rather than them moving to Linux or macOS. It’s such a waste of potential.

    They’re far too stupid to realize that.

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  • Redacted,
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    As always, it’s a trade-off between convenience and ability to tweak.

    When it comes to gaming, the convenience slightly edges it for me at the mo. Enjoying Game Pass, play anywhere, Quick Resume and have made all the money back I spent on the Series X through Microsoft Rewards twice over.

    Next upgrade will be a tough call though.

    echo64, do games w Xbox is still committed to making consoles, says boss Phil Spencer

    The writing is on the wall here, and it’s plain to see. Also, you really can’t trust anything that comes out of Phil Spencer’s mouth.

    If the goal is indeed for Xbox games to be on all platforms, then the Xbox platform is the only place they don’t make money. Super low third-party sales, zero first-party sales. Only gamepass subscription money, which can’t pay for all of their company buyouts, never mind paying off the 65 billion actiblizz purchase.

    If gamepass is everywhere, then Xbox has no value to Microsoft, it only harms them.

    It also exists to weaken any argument they might have to get governments to forcibly allow Microsoft stores on other platforms like the eu apple ruling.

    esc27,

    Windows is everywhere but the Microsoft Surface products still have value to Microsoft. Or for that matter, Steam is everywhere but Valve still made the steam deck. There seems to be some value to software companies making hardware if only to help set the tone and introduce features or ideas they hope other companies who use their software will follow.

    That said, I wonder if we won’t see the Xbox brand transition to software only with a line of gamer targeted Microsoft surfaces advertised as Xbox ready.

    Omegamanthethird,
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    Those are the standards and those products have value. Buying an Xbox when Playstation has all games for both consoles makes no sense unless you just have to have Gamepass, specifically.

    ripley,

    It doesn’t even matter if Gamepass or Xbox is currently profitable or not. It’s about whether it can be more profitable. They originally thought the path to that was through exclusivity - now they don’t (just as Sony changed course in regards to putting stuff on PC). Anyone who thinks that corporate decision-making is ever based on anything else is being naive.

    The practical concern here for me is at what point does MS find it most profitable to stop supporting my ability to use my accumulated physical and digital xbox software. Another reason walled gardens suck.

    BorgDrone,

    It’s almost as if Microsoft is a software company at heart and just wants to sell as many copies of their software as possible.

    dumpsterlid, (edited )

    Microsoft with gamepass (and other large game companies) are trying to do the gaming industry what Spotify did to the music industry. Blow the bottom out of it, get consumers used to subscriptions where money goes to massive companies not the artists actually doing the work, and let it all collapse into a heap so execs can do whatever they want because workers in the game industry have zero leverage left to dictate a higher quality of life since the path to profit has been carpet bombed by the finance industry (you don’t want to work for Microsoft or Sony? Oh sorry yeah nobody else can make money in video games so tough luck finding a job somewhere else).

    Why now? Well unlike the movie industry, video game nerds have a stunted awareness of the value of unions and worker organization so in plain daylight the rich can drive the entire industry off a cliff, fire a huge percentage of the workers and try to replace them with AI… and worst comes to worst those companies will be in a great position to demand whatever they want from the remaining human labor after the dust settles even if the AI crap doesn’t work.

    Good old Disaster Capitalism.

    Shadywack,
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    Also, you really can’t trust anything that comes out of Phil Spencer’s mouth.

    That’s really not a Phil Spencer thing, and more of a “You can tell any executive is lying, because their lips are moving” thing.

    echo64,

    When a nintendo executive I generally trust that theirs truth somewhere past the branding. With Phil Spencer talks I’m just assuming the opposite of everything he says. It’s a different thing, he really goes for the lies, to you, to the ftc, everyone

    Shadywack,
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    Satoru Iwata said they don’t do layoffs, he even took pay cuts to attempt to balance their budgets and keep people on…then he died in 2015. Now Nintendo’s credibility is in the toilet with the rest. The mistake you’re making is trusting a company with shareholders, you really need to learn how this works…executives of publicly traded companies=fucking liars.

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