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Computerchairgeneral, do games w Disco Elysium standalone expansion reportedly cancelled and quarter of staff facing redundancy at ZA/UM

It's a shame that people are being laid off, especially when it seems like it's retaliation for complaining about working conditions. Still, I don't think I'd ever be able to buy anything from ZA/UM after they kicked most of the creators out of the company and took control of the IP.

Nacktmull, do games w Disco Elysium standalone expansion reportedly cancelled and quarter of staff facing redundancy at ZA/UM
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldn’t want to buy an expansion from the people who stole Disco Elysium anyway.

How Disco Elysium Was Stolen From Its Creators

About the Disco Elysium Investigation (It’s bad.)

Glitchington,
@Glitchington@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, this seems like the business equivalent of a slap in the face to the original devs.

BarrierWithAshes,
@BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social avatar

The whole thing is such a clusterfuck. I've never played it but I can sympathize with how the fans have been jerked around.

Nacktmull,
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

I you are into adventure games and/or like the idea of a story heavy rpg without combat I wholeheartedly recommend you trying it.

BarrierWithAshes,
@BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social avatar

I've tried several games like it. Arcanum being one of the most similar but I just can't get into that style, no matter how many times I've tried lol. Same reason I won't play Planescape: Torment. Just not for me. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Aqarius,

It’s not very much like Arcanum, though. Arcanum and Planescape are moer or less straight RPGs, Disco Elysium is practically a variant of a point and click adventure.

yuriy,

It’s a point and click puzzle game with rpg elements, that’s how I’ve been explaining it

dumpsterlid,

I really wanted to get into planescape torment because I have heard amazing things about the writing and I have played decently far into the beginning (escaping from the body morgue complex into city) but the whole damn game is just grey and beige and I couldn’t take it after awhile lol.

BarrierWithAshes,
@BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social avatar

I'm sure its got an incredible story and I'd love it if I actually sat down but im in the same boat. Just not interested.

papabobolious,

I sympathise with them, but played it without any insight into any drama. It’s one of the best games I’ve played.

100_percent_a_bot,

If anything the employees getting fired and the project being shitcanned adds another layer of social commentary

BustinJiber,

Still do not understand how this wasn’t hostile takeover.

EdibleFriend, do gaming w Payday 3 is finally getting an offline mode
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

I honestly forgot all about this. How is it now?

AlexisFR, do gaming w Disco Elysium standalone expansion reportedly cancelled and quarter of staff facing redundancy at ZA/UM
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This studio must have pissed off someone very powerful to be targeted and dismantled like this.

Did the old guys even got to start a new studio and a spiritual successor?

LoamImprovement,

I don’t think they would want to deal with this shit again, and I wouldn’t blame them. I’m just going to be content with the fact we got one good game.

Coelacanth, do gaming w Disco Elysium standalone expansion reportedly cancelled and quarter of staff facing redundancy at ZA/UM
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As much as I’d love for more actual, true DE content, I’m actually happy this expansion is cancelled. Doing a content release without Kurvitz, Hindpere and Rostov would just be wrong, and would create an awkward situation for new players in the future. If we can’t have more real DE content, I’m happy the existing game at least gets to remain as an intact monolith rather than be diluted by additions outside the original writers’ vision and without the inimitable art of Rostov.

e8d79, do gaming w Disco Elysium standalone expansion reportedly cancelled and quarter of staff facing redundancy at ZA/UM
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I can only hope that the Disco Elysium IP somehow gets back into the hands of the original writers.

rwhitisissle,

The odds of that are so incredibly low. DE is a fantastic standalone game. Arguably one of the most artistically complex and rich games ever made, and it stands alone perfectly well. It raised the bar for gaming in a way that others have aspired to but not ever really reached. The best we can hope for is that the makers of the game can make a new game in the future. One whose IP they know how to protect, this time.

LoamImprovement, do gaming w Disco Elysium standalone expansion reportedly cancelled and quarter of staff facing redundancy at ZA/UM

Nothing of value was lost. Any content worth having couldn’t have existed without Kurvitz’ writing.

TheOneCurly, do gaming w Disco Elysium standalone expansion reportedly cancelled and quarter of staff facing redundancy at ZA/UM

Apparently they weren’t redundant if you needed them to make the expansion…

andrewrgross,

This is exactly my thought.

It’s like, ‘I have terrible news: we didn’t have enough work to keep paying the mechanics, so now we have no one to fix all the broken delivery trucks!’

dangblingus, do gaming w Disco Elysium standalone expansion reportedly cancelled and quarter of staff facing redundancy at ZA/UM

Disco Elysium has been dead in the water for years now. I won’t support the publisher anymore. The only reason why I didn’t pirate the game to begin with, even at the request of the OG dev, is because I don’t trust repacks or random .exe’s.

millie,

I feel like Fitgirl is more trustworthy than any corporation of any size.

hsr,
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If you’re worried about random exes and repacs, I’ll let you know that there is a DRM-free GOG version of Disco Elysium. Of course you still need to make sure you’re downloading it from a reputable source, but it’s basically as good as it gets from safety standpoint.

Goopadrew, do gaming w Disco Elysium standalone expansion reportedly cancelled and quarter of staff facing redundancy at ZA/UM

How to destroy your up-and-coming indie studio in three simple steps!

  1. Publicly fuck over the two people most responsible for your massively successful IP, ensuring they’ll never work with you again
  2. Cancel any follow-up to your massively successful IP and continue with projects nobody cares about
  3. Fire the rest of the staff responsible for your only successful IP
thejml,

I’ve been at two startups in my career. Both venture capital financed. Even though they are completely different industries, this is the exact playbook they used.

Kichae,

The VCs were in the same industry both times, though: Making money by selling property.

They’re not interested in selling do-dads, or softwhizzles. They want to sell the company, and that’s making the same play in the same game every time.

thejml,

While I agree, their decision dissolved one of them. They picked the up and coming product over the one activity making money, burned through the capital and the new product never made it to market.

millie,

So keep control of your own indie and don’t do shared ownership. Check.

DdCno1,

Easier said than done if you are not independently wealthy and can bring your own capital with you.

p03locke,
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It’s also a shame People Make Games lost the plot on telling that story, too. The worst thing you can do is push this false equivalency on what is obviously a rich-people-fuck-over-the-poors story.

Thassodar,

Hey it worked for Konami right? RIGHT??

RampantParanoia2365, do games w PlayStation won't launch any "major" games in existing franchises this year

Well, I’m about to start Alan Wake 2, then I’ll start Death Stranding, and then Baldur’s Gate. Plus I could probably go through Spider-Man and Cyberpunk again. So personally I should be eating well for a while.

Z3k3, do gaming w PlayStation won't launch any "major" games in existing franchises this year

Does that include remakes and remasters

Please say yes.

Lath,

No. It means more PC ports! More BAD PC ports! Ha hah!

Pratai, do games w PlayStation won't launch any "major" games in existing franchises this year

Hope this means fresh new IP. I’m so sick of remasters and sequels. We need new stuff.

Empricorn,

But. Think of the shareholders!

Squizzy,

I’d play a new god of war every year if they kept up form

Jackthelad, do games w PlayStation won't launch any "major" games in existing franchises this year

Not even another Naughty Dog remaster?!

garretble, do games w PlayStation won't launch any "major" games in existing franchises this year
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On a personal level, I’m actually kind of fine with this.

So far this year we have already had some very long games launched that I’m interested in, and I feel like they could keep me busy for basically most of the year. I’m also finally playing Cyberpunk (and it’s now fun and only mildly buggy!).

But Persona 3, Like a Dragon, and soon FF7 are big, fat games that could take months to finish. And I haven’t even had a chance to play Baldur’s Gate yet.

So, for me, I’m not hurting for content at all. But I know that’s just me.

aniki,

Is the FF7 re-telling even finished? Are they going to finish it? I am so lost on what chapters are what and when and why.

garretble,
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

The second game of the FF7 remake series comes out in a couple of weeks.

My understanding is that there will be three games.

FunkyMonk,

There is a prequil 'Crisis Core' and I expect more spinoffs again but they keep saying it will be 3 core games for the 'retelling'/remake project.

garretble,
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

Oh yeah, I forgot about Crisis Core.

aniki,

Are they going to make more Crisis Core games? The PSP game got remade, right? I’ve been playing the pixel remasters of FF1-6 and was thinking about getting CC.

JowlesMcGee,
@JowlesMcGee@kbin.social avatar

Correct, the PSP game got a remake that's been out for a bit.

Grass,

The first one gave me the impression of a sort of sequel that requires alternate timeline and some characters seemed to be at least somewhat aware of it, but I could also just be overanalyzing incorrectly. Second part soon ish on PS so I expect part 3 on PC by the time I’m 90 if I’m still alive then.

FunkyMonk,

yeah there is a big 'fate' sort of narrative about other possible events and shifting death flags

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