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terminhell, do gaming w Avowed plays like a funny Obsidian role-player where you buddy up with the voice of Mass Effect's Garrus [Eurogamer]

Been waiting years for this. The original games are super underrated.

Faydaikin,
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

Pillars of Eternity? Are they considered underrated?

The first one did pretty well as far as I remember.

My only personal complaint was that the game was too lineary.

terminhell,

Overall yes they did well, but it seems like they fell off. Poe1 has the better narrative imo. 2 had better mechanics.

Faydaikin,
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

So they aren’t underrated. Just low replayability value.

And if Avowed is part of the series, I’d say the IP’s doing fine. Three installments is pretty good.

terminhell,

If it came across as talking bad about the game/franchise thats not the intent. It’s just rarely mentioned in the crpg mainstream articles I’ve seen over time. Usually Divinity and others are brought up more often.

Faydaikin,
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

No no, I just see “Underrated” used a lot about things that really aren’t underrated. It’s become a bit of a pet peeve for me. (Like when someone calls REM an underrated band. Like, they are world renowned. They’re just old and broken up.)

And I’m also pointing out a likely reason for them not being talked about as much as other titles in the same genre. Aside from going through the game with different roles, the first game just doesn’t have a lot of replay value. Not a lot of ‘Choice & Consequence’ or things to discover. There’s your Char and what God you choose to side with in the end. That’s kinda it.

Good games, but not exactly riveting.

strongarm, do gaming w Avowed plays like a funny Obsidian role-player where you buddy up with the voice of Mass Effect's Garrus [Eurogamer]

Sounds great!

RandomGuy79, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

So we’ve moved on from no minorities to whatever we can find?

throbbing_banjo, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage
@throbbing_banjo@lemmy.world avatar

Pirate the fuck out of this game, got it

Lianodel, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

Somewhat off topic, but the names of both the publisher and the developer are also used by unrelated tabletop game companies. Hero Games makes the Hero System tabletop RPG, and GameScience (no space, so there’s a difference) make dice. It threw me for a loop.

Murvel, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

Fucking pathetic

RunawayFixer, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

I was wondering what “feminist propaganda” was and apparently it’s talking about misogyny.

Another forbidden topic seemed to be targeted at criticism of misogyny at Game Science. The company has come under fire for lewd and sexist comments attributed in media reports to its founders as well as recruiting materials from 2015 replete with sexual innuendos. Those original job postings and comments were deleted, and the company has not commented.nytimes.com/…/chinese-videogame-wukong-censorship…

But this anti feminism attitude is not limited to this 1 gaming company, but government policy under Xi Jinping’s authoritarian rule: www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/…/100165360

hornedfiend,

Thanks for sharing this. I wasn’t going to buy this game,but now I’m convinced I won’t. Will wait for empress to turn denuvo intro their bitch.

echodot,

Oh yeah but then there will be another unhinged controversy.

PeriodicallyPedantic, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

I guess they’ve never heard of the Streisand effect in China.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

It’s probably easier to control that effect over there, not so much on western countries.

Maggoty, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

So a video of the game overlaid by a feminist manifesto?

yamanii, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

IGN’s hitpiece was very iffy in the first place, with mistranslated “tweets” from one of the devs weibo and all, but by doing these guidelines they gave ammunition to these people, I’m glad the game is doing well at least so hopefully china keeps making good, AAA games that aren’t also gacha for once.

neo,
@neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space avatar

Naturally, you’re getting downvoted into oblivion for recognizing a hit-piece when you see one.

Etterra, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

Well now I wish I was an influencer so that I could get paid for giving China the middle finger.

FeelzGoodMan420, (edited ) do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

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  • StoneyDcrew,

    Edit: downvoted for not wanting to pay attention to stupid controversy about video games? Weird…

    It’s one thing to live peacefully in ignorance. I get it. it is exhausting keeping track of every shitty thing a company does when it’s so much easier at the end of an exhausting 9-5 shift to avoid news and play your games guilt free without thinking about who it’s hurting.

    It’s a completely separate thing to brag that your ignorance somehow makes your way of life superior.

    People caring about these issues, and sometimes leading to actions being taken because of that, all makes the gaming industry, or to be hyberbolic; the world a better place.

    It’s fine to avoid news on controversy and just blindly enjoy games, but don’t lie to yourself (and others) by pretending that it is a good thing.

    AmidFuror, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

    Are analogies using A.A. Milne characters OK for describing the game?

    Rentlar,

    Oh bother…

    NocturnalMorning, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

    I was excited to play this game until I saw this. Now I kinda don’t want to play it.

    TimLovesTech, (edited ) do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

    For anyone not clicking thru:

    In full, the don’ts are:

    • Do NOT insult other influencers or players.
    • Do NOT use any offensive language/humour.
    • Do NOT include politics, violence, nudity, feminist propaganda, fetishisation, and other content that instigates negative discourse.
    • Do NOT use trigger words such as ‘quarantine’ or ‘isolation’ or ‘Covid-19’.
    • Do NOT discuss content related to China’s game industry policies, opinions, news, etc.

    I see this as them wanting influencers to focus on their game, instead of using the game as a platform to wade into these other topics that focus on the country they happen to live in. And this being an election year in the US ,and the Right having spread wild conspiracy theories about China for years now, them not wanting any of that stuff to overshadow their art doesn’t seem all that crazy of a take. Basically they are saying they want influencers to talk about the game and to leave politics to /c/politics.

    Oh and this is of course only sent to influencers, so just people they are giving the game to for free. The rest of the world (including influencers that buy their own copy) are of course free to do whatever they are legally allowed to in their jurisdiction.

    Edit - I just want to add an edit after reading the IGN article someone linked above, that I am not siding with or defending any of the gross things coming from people working at this studio. And I guess this would come down to if people can separate the art from the artist, which I personally struggle with in many instances.

    Jaderick,

    The use of “feminist propaganda” over “misogyny” seems very deliberate.

    tja,
    @tja@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Yes, because it seems the studio doesn’t have any problem with misogyny

    TimLovesTech,

    Oh for sure. I do wonder what part the Chinese government takes in shaping the wording of “exports” like this too.

    yamanii,
    @yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

    None, Azur Lane chinese is completely different and censored from Azur Lane’s JP and global versions.

    kazaika,

    I might give them the benefit of the doubt and say its a translation issue

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