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nthavoc, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

I can make it happen during a Steam summer sale 4 years later. Borderlands 3 wasn’t that great when you compare it to 1 and 2. I can wait.

Vlyn, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

I don’t condone this, but we already had $60 games 10 years ago. If you simply add inflation you’d be at $81 today. That doesn’t even take into account that modern games also have larger budgets compared to back then.

Video games really are a cheap hobby comparatively speaking. I still wait for sales of course :)

dermanus,

Games have been surprisingly inflation resistant. I paid $70 for Playstation games in the 90s.

mnemonicmonkeys,

Games have also gotten massively cheaper due to distribute due to digital downloads being the most common, and they’re making way more sales due to gaming having a much larger audience.

The main reason these games have ridiculously inflated budgets are because execs are pushing for more management, which in turn push for oversized teams making design-by-committee out of fear of making something people don’t like. The gamin industry doesn’t get to make excuses anymore. Them being unable to reign in their development budgets aren’t our problem. They need to figure out how to offer games at a lower price, because they’re going to run out of customers willing to pay otherwise

Vlyn,

Actually around half the budget of an AAA game is just marketing cost. Which feels wasteful, but if you need to recoup hundreds of millions it might be necessary.

gamermanh,

That doesn’t even take into account that modern games also have larger budgets compared to back then.

It also doesn’t take into account how much more they make even at the lower price points

If game companies want more money for their games they can start by cutting the worthless CEOs, not raising prices

Vlyn,

Actually around half the budget of an AAA game is just marketing cost. Which feels wasteful, but if you need to recoup hundreds of millions it might be necessary.

ISolox, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

I’m a huge borderlands fan. I will not be buying this for $80 lol.

sturmblast, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Or we’ll boycott you shit ass companies

Exusia, (edited ) do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

Randy pitchford?

THAT Randy Pitchford? The Randy Pitchford that, because he loves magic tricks, downloaded himself some squirt porn (sfw youtube link to moistcritical) on the same thumb drive as company secrets, and then left it at a Medieval Times?The same Randy that grabbed the Claptrap VA by the junk because he was tired of voicing Claptrap for free and had the audacity to ask to be paid so Pitchford tried to intimidate him? The same Randy Pitchford that somehow “lost” millions dollars of Segas money causing Colonial marines to bomb so that they could fund Borderlands 2 and Duke Nukem Forever He’s also not above putting journalists who bad mouth him in his games as petty revenge.

Fuck that guy. Fuck anything he says.

brsrklf,

No, no, you don’t understand, the girl was doing a magic trick! He only consumed that just barely legal content with professional interest in mind.

Exusia, (edited )
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not gonna sit and tell a man he can’t have a kink preference in his own home on his own time.

But Jesus fuck on the company thumb drive? Bro is a ceo and cant afford a “personal folder” usb. Here $12 for a 128Gb one on Amazon is not uncommon And then to be so distracted he forgot it.

brsrklf,

You’ve missed the part where that was actually something he said. Who cares about what the idiot’s exact kink, he had to save his honour telling people it wasn’t “really” porn.

finitebanjo,

I hear he also collected child porn, citation needed.

CommanderCloon,

Holy shit, I knew about the “magic trick” girl and thought he was a quirky funny man, but assaulting an artist to force them to work for free? What a fucking asshole

Exusia, (edited )
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

If I recall the feud correctly, Eddings previously worked on Claptrap as a favor for free (or next to it). As far as the back and forth on Twitter indicates, when he said he wanted “Id like to be paid this time”, Pitchford initially pushed back, and then offered “2x union rates” (whether Pitchford actually offered that or said it on twitter afterward to garner sympathy we may never know), but Eddings refused the offer since gearbox was (at the time) about to make its 3rd lootershooter in a monsterously successful chain and he was one of the most prominent side characters. Thats what triggered Pitchford to attempt to intimidate him in front of a hotel elevator.

Bro is a blight on Gearbox. And no one is sure how or why the board hasn’t gotten rid of him.

Goretantath, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

I can make it happen? Okeydokey! 🏴‍☠️

leavemealone, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Too much games to play on the market to justify the urgency to buy it at release for 80 bucks. they now compete with free to play, gamepass, Indy games, piracy, and tons of past games with lower cost.

The fomo of newly released games is low when most games are released in shitty state and need 1/2 months of patches/fixes and that’s not even taking in consideration that the best experience is when all the dlcs are released and make the game finally complete.

The AAA industry is fucked. In a world where quality games are released each weeks they are often but even the best way to have fun with our limited time, like tepid Ubisoft games…

WarlordSdocy,

Yeah I’m really starting to feel like we’re gonna see a lot of these companies shift from doing big AAA games to instead publishing small indie games. Almost all of these big companies have indie publishing arms now and as they start to see good profits from those without having to take on the cost of paying devs themselves I wouldn’t be surprised if they start cutting back on their own dev teams and shifting to that.

leavemealone,

Honestly I am all for if it means that we get original games again from big studios, I can’t get hyped anymore for yet another sequel or remaster.

Cethin,

Honestly, in my opinion, there’s too many games to justify buying it at all. I enjoyed one and two when I was a kid, and there wasn’t competition for the genre. Three I think was free on Epic or something, so I played and it was fine, but not great. I don’t expect much from four, and there’s companies I’d actually like to support instead.

leavemealone,

I can’t tell you exactly why, but as much as I played and replayed borderlands 1&2, the third one didn’t interest me at all, I can see that the recipe used the same ingredients but it just didn’t taste the same to contribute the metaphor. It just bored me and my wife during our coop campaign, and we didn’t have any desire to continue our playthrough. I hope they get it back with four but I don’t trust them enough anymore to buy it blindly anyway.

Cethin,

I don’t know if there’s even anything to get back. Is it that 3 was bad or is it just that Borderlands doesn’t interest us anymore? I honestly don’t know, but I think it’s at least partially the latter for me. I’ve played much better games since, and I don’t really find that formula appealing anymore. Almost everything it created has been used to make better products since, so is there even a reason to care about them anymore?

newthrowaway20, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Lol Randy actively taking the winds out of his own sails.

I hope he rots in piss.

TheHobbyist, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

The video game landscape is already filled to the brims with more games than I need to play for the rest of my life and you want me to hurry up to pay for a game as it comes out, to ditch out the full price when my computer would suffer for the lack of latest gen hardware when I could easily find a large amount of fantastic games for less than 10 bucks and comfortably max out their settings?

Like, the witcher 3 with all its DLC, a fantastic game which is 10 years old but got a free graphics upgrade and with all its DLC, worth hundreds of hours of gameplay and a memorable experience is less than 10 bucks, as we speak, both on steam and gog.

Most people already have more games than they have time to play. Patient gamer has never been more rewarding. We fall too often for the fear of missing out the experience and hype of a new launch…

I finished GTA 4 and 5 like a year ago, on my steam deck. I couldn’t care less if these games came out like 10 years ago. It gives me the flexibility to play them how I want to.

Robust_Mirror,

100% agree. I no joke own about 900 games I haven’t played between steam (most bought when I was young and naive, probably bought like 10 games in the last 10 years now I know better), epic free games, and playstation plus monthly “free” games (not even counting the catalogue you now get access to), yes they’re technically not entirely free but I’d be paying for plus regardless so they kinda are.

Now as a lot of these games weren’t chosen by me, by no means do I want to play them all, and some are duplicates across platforms. But if even 10% interest me, that’s still 90 games. I probably play games at a rate slower than 1 per month. That’s years of games to me. And more will be stacking up in that time. I haven’t bought a game in like 3 years and it’s entirely possible I’ll never buy a game again at this rate.

Gerudo, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Looks like fitgirl will be getting my business instead

modifier,
@modifier@lemmy.ca avatar

Found a way!

Kazumara, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

If Randy Pitchford was a real CEO he would find a way to make $60 games

newthrowaway20,

He’s too busy collecting child porn to bother with running his business.

Kbobabob,

Uh, source? It seems like if this were true he’d be in cuffs.

yeather,

Per Wikipedia: In 2018, former Gearbox lawyer Wade Callender filed a lawsuit against Pitchford,[42] that alleged that Pitchford had left a USB drive containing sensitive Gearbox information and “child pornography” at a Medieval Times in 2014. Pitchford clarified that the pornographic film on the USB drive was not child pornography and stated that he had saved the pornography for the purposes of studying a sexual act performed by the female actress that he claimed to be similar to a “magic trick”. Gearbox said they would file a grievance with the State Bar of Texas against Callender for “filing a lawsuit that includes accusations that he knows to be untrue”. An August 2019 filing further alleged Pitchford and his employers of contempt. In October 2019, both sides announced that the lawsuit had been dropped, and a joint statement by the parties called the issue a misunderstanding, and further stated that Pitchford had been exonerated.

CommanderCloon,

What?

yeather,

Per Wikipedia: In 2018, former Gearbox lawyer Wade Callender filed a lawsuit against Pitchford,[42] that alleged that Pitchford had left a USB drive containing sensitive Gearbox information and “child pornography” at a Medieval Times in 2014. Pitchford clarified that the pornographic film on the USB drive was not child pornography and stated that he had saved the pornography for the purposes of studying a sexual act performed by the female actress that he claimed to be similar to a “magic trick”. Gearbox said they would file a grievance with the State Bar of Texas against Callender for “filing a lawsuit that includes accusations that he knows to be untrue”. An August 2019 filing further alleged Pitchford and his employers of contempt. In October 2019, both sides announced that the lawsuit had been dropped, and a joint statement by the parties called the issue a misunderstanding, and further stated that Pitchford had been exonerated.

IzzyJ, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
@IzzyJ@lemmy.world avatar

I will never buy the game out of spite

Vipsu, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
@Vipsu@lemmy.world avatar

My game backlog has reached mars so I am in no hurry. Still havent even started tiny tina’s wonderlands.

Hermit_Lailoken, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
@Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world avatar

That’s what he thinks.

acosmichippo, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

mm yes gatekeeping and money shaming, that’ll convince them.

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