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intensely_human, do games w Tekken 8 players divided as devs add “Tekken Shop” with microtransactions

I mean let’s be real here. Tekken was originally based on 50¢ microtransactions

Chozo, do games w Tekken 8 players divided as devs add “Tekken Shop” with microtransactions

I don't get it, it's just gonna be skins, right? Pretty much every fighting game has paid skins these days, that's what funds continued development for balancing and new content.

Unless there's something really egregious being offered for sale, I don't see the issue. Cosmetics are one of the few MTX I'm okay with, for the most part.

Minotaur,

Yes but don’t you get it, the nerds want constant influxes of free new content - they’re being “literally robbed” by paying $70 for 200+ hours of entertainment as it is!!

harry_balzac,

It’s that they added it after release without previous notice.

Chozo,

I'm not seeing why that's a problem, if it's still just cosmetics.

Also, anybody who expected a AAA fighting game to not have cosmetic MTX in 2024 probably isn't that keen on the fighting game scene to begin with. That's just how the genre works these days; the players want continuous balance patches as new tech and exploits are discovered, and that comes at a cost. If you think $70 is enough for potentially years of continued support and updates, then you haven't been keeping up with the economy's effects on the gaming industry.

Juigi,

Fuck me publishers love consumers like you.

Chozo,

I'm not sure why any of this is a hot take. I get the feeling that most of the people in this thread aren't even Tekken players, or fighting game players at all.

These games only work with continued funding. If that's not for you, then that's totally fine and understandable. But these games require labor, and labor requires payment. And the community is willing and eager to pay.

You wouldn't work for free would you? Why should anybody expect software developers to?

Dewded,

You’re totally on point. Lemmy has a lot of people stuck in the past. It’s a significant bias.

The store will garner good sales and the Tekken devs will eat well. This will be enabled by people who see value in their work and happily pay for it.

It really doesn’t matter what a vocal minority thinks, when the valuable non-vocal minority is out there paying big bucks for Kazuya in a fundoshi.

In order to reach new heights as a game service, Tekken needs all the money it can get.

People also seem to forget that Tekken started off in arcades. These arcade releases were far more aggressive in their monetization, especially in Korea and Japan. You would have people paying 5-10$ for a couple of hours. Players would also have to pay for their online player IDs.

Tekken 7 still had this business model. The game released for arcade in 2015. 2017 for all platforms.

The game was thoroughly milked before it was more accessible.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Because the game isn’t free but the microtransactions are exceptionally high still are new characters going to be free since they are selling cosmetics? No, they aren’t so really, who’s winning here? I’m glad Project L is going to dethrone every single one of these games.

Chozo,

I’m glad Project L is going to dethrone every single one of these games.

Yeah, Riot would never add MTX to their games, right?

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

The game is free, they can do that.

verysoft, do games w Tekken 8 players divided as devs add “Tekken Shop” with microtransactions

Just another lesson to wait months after a games release before even considering it.

Vampiric_Luma,
@Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca avatar

Early access paranoia can finally be shared by all~ Yippeeeeeeee

SomethingBurger,

I don’t buy games until the publisher announces it will be delisted.

yamanii, do games w Tekken 8 players divided as devs add “Tekken Shop” with microtransactions
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

It already was, activision and capcom both did that, and no, cheat DLCs aren’t accessibility, cheats should be free like they were back in the ps2 days and earlier.

Cossty, do games w Tekken 8 players divided as devs add “Tekken Shop” with microtransactions

What do you mean “new shitty norm”? Companies have been doing that for years already. First time I saw it around 2017 I think. I not sure about the game, but I think it was Call of Duty.

frunch,

From what i gather, they waited until after the reviews were in. They got a good score, which i guess would have been impacted by the inclusion of microtransactions, and released them after the reviews were in. Sounds like they were trying to avoid the bad press they would have gotten for including them (or perhaps purchases even, from people starkly against the practice)

hatsa122, do games w Tekken 8 players divided as devs add “Tekken Shop” with microtransactions

Divided? One must be pretty naive if they can’t see the move they are trying to pull here.

Can’t wait for f2p Project L to break into the genre and become the biggest and most popular fighting game.

inclementimmigrant, (edited )

I mean you’ve got people who are defending Bilzzard’s newest horse armor bullshit so yeah.

ETA: Yup, got quite a few Hardcore Gamers^TM in the thread defending this BS already with ‘it’s just cosmetics’, all fighting games do it, or won’t someone think of the devs, like like they think the developers are getting a cut off the money.

Just sad frogs sitting in the boiling water.

caut_R,

Yeah, you can find vocal people who will play the apologist for just about anything, it‘s baffling to the degree that I wonder if there‘s paid actors on social media in this sense

Minotaur,

I’m a real, human, unpaid “apologist” for DLC like this presented in Tekken 8 - AMA

harry_balzac,

Definitely paid actors. These companies all have social media teams. It’s not improbable that they create fake personal accounts to post apologist bs.

They also can buy sock puppet accounts and use those.

Chozo,

Yeah, I'm sure Blizzard's really dumping a lot of resources into "shitposting on a Reddit clone with under 30k MAUs".

FooBarrington,

Feeling called out?

Chozo,

I wish. I'll bet Blizzard pays good.

Zonetrooper,
@Zonetrooper@lemmy.world avatar

Gaming “journalism” can’t afford outright say “company deliberately tries to hide enshittification of their game” aloud. Might lose that access to selective early copies for review!

Brunbrun6766,
@Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

Can’t wait for F2P game from the company probably MOST known for in game shops??

cyberpunk007,

Bait and switch. That’s the move.

PapstJL4U,
@PapstJL4U@lemmy.world avatar

Project L will not use LoL but Valorant as base.

Riot is a fan of fomo and high pricess.

Wrench, do games w Tekken 8 players divided as devs add “Tekken Shop” with microtransactions

Same argument every time. I don’t give a shit, nor will I ever give a shit, if the only micro transactions are skins. It does not affect gameplay, it only adds a little way to customize for the enthusiasts. That’s fine, and has been a regular Tekken feature since PS3. Why people care so much is beyond me.

Juigi,

Full priced game adding microtransactions cosmetic or not will always be total bullshit.

caseofthematts,

“As long as it’s only cosmetics” has moved the goalposts from where we used to be on the matter. I completely agree it’s bullshit.

The Tales Of series has been bullshit. Used to be fun collecting new costumes from hidden events and side quests. Now half of the interesting costumes are either DLC or different edition bonuses which you can later purchase as DLC.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t give a shit, nor will I ever give a shit

Yes, you do. If you truly didn’t care, you would have no incentive to even comment at all.

Why people care so much is beyond me.

Namco cares. That’s why they had hidden the feature from the launch version.

Shade, do games w Tekken 8 players divided as devs add “Tekken Shop” with microtransactions
@Shade@lemmy.world avatar

Sickening.

littlebluespark, do games w Tekken 8 players divided as devs add “Tekken Shop” with microtransactions
@littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

Called it.

JoeKrogan, do games w Tekken 8 players divided as devs add “Tekken Shop” with microtransactions
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

Review Bomb it on steam

Poggervania, do games w Tekken 8 players divided as devs add “Tekken Shop” with microtransactions
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

Bamco knows bikini skins of their characters are gonna sell like hotcakes.

That being said, I’ll forgive them if they only release a Kazuya bikini skin with jiggle physics for his pecs.

garretble, do games w New Nintendo patent suggests Switch 2 may solve joycon drift
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

I had to replace my original sticks this year because they finally started to drift after five years or so.

I now have some Hall Effect sticks in each side, and I haven’t had any problems in the last six months with them. I really hope they go this route for the switch 2. It makes a lot of sense for them to, as well. They wouldn’t have to deal with fixing as many, and consumers would get a better product. Could be a rare win for both parties when I’m sure there’s some bean counters going “but if the controllers break more often we can sell more controllers!”

mp3,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

Could be a rare win for both parties when I’m sure there’s some bean counters going “but if the controllers break more often we can sell more controllers!”

Hopefully a class-action wipes off all profits gained from that way of thinking.

Viking_Hippie,

Unfortunately not. Planned obsolescence fuckery is the norm now, not the exception.

mp3,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

At least one class-action going ahead so far.

…citynews.ca/…/nintendo-joy-con-controller-lawsui…

Viking_Hippie,

Yeah, but that’s in Canada. Unlike the US, they don’t let companies get away with LITERALLY everything yet. Good on them for staying sane on top of the asylum though…

morphballganon,

What is Hall Effect?

sleep_deprived,

It’s a way to detect which way the stick is pointing using magnets. It’s way more accurate and incredibly reliable.

9point6,

Also because the moving parts don’t actually make contact with the sensors, the wear issues that affect joycons basically don’t exist

Engywuck, (edited )

HI! My son just received a Nintendo Switch for Xmas. Would you mint telling me more about those Hall Effect stick i.e., brand/model? It’d be interesting to know hot to get them “just in case”. Thanks a lot in advance!

garretble,
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

Hello! I just remembered your message.

Here’s an article about the ones I bought (though I bought them through another site besides Amazon because I’m not an Amazon fan.

Anyway, the process is pretty easy, though there are some smallish cables to be careful about.

polygon.com/…/nintendo-switch-joy-con-drift-gulik…

Engywuck,

Hey, thanks a lot. I’m not an Amazon fan as well, so I’d buy them elsewhere when/if needed.

Dick_Justice, do games w New Nintendo patent suggests Switch 2 may solve joycon drift
@Dick_Justice@lemmy.world avatar

I lost four sets of Joycon to drift. I even sent two in to be “repaired”. Talking to support was worthless - I’m convinced that the people I spoke to had never seen or used a Switch before. I don’t think they did anything other than calibrate them and send them back. I ended up buying a 20 pair of knockoff Joycon that have worked perfectly ever since.

deft,

what brand?

Dick_Justice,
@Dick_Justice@lemmy.world avatar

My old Amazon order says Vivefox, but they don’t seem to be for sale anymore. I’m pretty sure at the time there were a bunch of companies offering the same ones, like a Chinese dropship kind of thing.

Sniper,

repairing joycon drift is super easy. ifixit.com and the joystick modules are 5 bucks on amazon. People need to lose this fear over opening and repairing their own electronics.

rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

Why, though? Let them fix it, if they’re selling broken. Especially here in Europe they have to fix it within a mandatory 2-year warranty.

Sniper,

Cause i’m never gonna let them fix it themselves after they lost one of my ($40) joycons then threw their hands up and said it was my fault. Plus it takes them 3 weeks to do it anyway which is a long time without the games console I paid for

Engywuck,

It’s 3 year in Spain, since Jan 2022 (just adding info).

tal,
@tal@kbin.social avatar

A bunch of controllers have extremely obnoxious security bits required. I had to get two separate bit sets to open a bunch of controllers.

hazle, do gaming w CoD players roast $60 Modern Warfare 3 skin that acts as an endless flashbang - Dexerto

Watching Activision burn is great. What a shit company with shit ideas. No wonder another dumpster company like Microsoft wanted it. Shit sticks together brothers in arms 3 unlimited money and medals.

ampersandrew, do gaming w Smash Ultimate reveals 5th anniversary event & confirms new content in 2024
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

5 years is a long time. When Smash Ultimate came out, it was one of my favorite games ever. Now I hate Nintendo.

ted,

I did not see the last sentence of your comment coming. Caught me by surprise.

steal_your_face,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

For people that hate Nintendo but like Nintendo games there’s always pirating if you have a good enough computer (or so I’ve heard)

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Nah, I'd rather not give them my time or my money. If I'm playing Tears of the Kingdom, even pirated, it means that's time I'm not spending on games from companies that have more respect for their customers. If I pirated it, it also means I'd have thoughts on the game that I'd share with friends or forum users, and that would encourage more people to also buy the game. So no, they don't even get my illicit download.

fracture,

based

also i’m sorry, having done a similar journey

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