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windowsphoneguy, do gaming w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99

Have they forgotten about the PlayStation TV?

HalJor,
@HalJor@beehaw.org avatar

I haven’t. I had one. Too much lag. Maybe this will be better but I’m skeptical.

HeyLow, do gaming w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99

With the price being $200 you might as well spend 120 more to get a refurbished steam deck, install ps remote play on that then you have a handheld that can play ps, Xbox, and pc games on the go without an internet connection.

Moonrise2473, do gaming w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99

Wait so it costs like a PSP but it can’t do anything without WiFi and another ps5 active on the network?

Seems insanely expensive for what this is

PSP and PS Vita allowed remote play but also could work standalone

tamlyn, (edited )
@tamlyn@lemmy.zip avatar

Yes it has about the same components as a PSP, so of course it cost the same. It’s such a big insult to a PSP having the same name.

Jaccident,

But it doesn’t have the same name…

tamlyn,
@tamlyn@lemmy.zip avatar

I’m able to read that remote Player, but the first part is the same.

HalJor,
@HalJor@beehaw.org avatar

Portal != Portable

tamlyn,
@tamlyn@lemmy.zip avatar

my bad. Seem i’m indeed bad at reading.

Blackmist,

It sounds mental, and I suspect there’s a key piece of the puzzle missing for now which is cloud play.

I mean, that has to be the plan, right? They can’t possibly be releasing a £200 remote play solution just for people who want to play in bed or on the toilet… The market for IBS sufferers with a PS5 can’t be that big.

Omegamanthethird,

I’m a dad. This is pretty much perfect for when my kids are watching TV. But $200 is a bit steep.

Moonrise2473,

the article not only says

games that are streamed through PlayStation Plus Premium’s cloud streaming, are not supported

but also says

Games that must be streamed on PS5 using a PS Plus Premium membership are not compatible

hopefully it can be hacked and reconfigured to be used with a PC, so i can get it for $50 when they will do the fire sale (i still regret not having bought the ps tv when they got rid for all the stock at 20 euro)

Blackmist,

Yes, that’s what it says.

But PS5 streaming is in beta, PS3 and 4 streaming have been a thing for ages, and I can’t think for a minute that Sony are dumb enough to release a streaming only handheld that they don’t plan to connect to their cloud streaming services in the future.

Especially since the PS5 is unlikely to come down in price any time soon. Could be a decent way to get poor/casual gamers paying for a gaming subscription they’ll barely use.

SenorBolsa,
@SenorBolsa@beehaw.org avatar

“let’s see, we’ve sold one to a Mr. Griffin McElroy”

“Anyone else?”

“No”

jordanlund, do gaming w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99
!deleted7836 avatar

Better than the original thinking of $299 which would have been a non-starter for a device that doesn’t even have it’s own games…

But still, $200 for a device that does what I can already do on my phone/tablet/Steam Deck is too high. It’s like they don’t know who their customers are.

Bundle this + the ear buds for $200 and then you have something.

iforgotmyinstance, do games w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99

No cloud service is strange. Makes this seem like an entirely outdated project.

ArugulaZ, do gaming w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

Is this that silly Q thing I heard about earlier? (Fun fact: the Vita provides similar functionality with actual portability!)

ABCDE, do games w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99

It’s… Okay. Some may find a use but it’s still extraneous to most people. If it had something unique I could understand it.

storksforlegs, do gaming w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99
@storksforlegs@beehaw.org avatar

So its as capable as a WiiU screen?

TwilightVulpine,

When faced with the success of the Switch they decided to make a Wii U. Who can understand what's going on in their heads...

Helvedeshunden,

Oh, no. The Wii U connection was far, far more responsive.

hogart, (edited ) do gaming w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99
@hogart@feddit.nu avatar

Quite the jump from 199 but add another 140 dollars and you get a machine that handles Ps5 remote play, emulation, playing games locally and streaming from your PC. Sure the screen is worse but a Steam Deck is so much more value for money. This seems like a small return for quite a lot of money.

Edit: I forgot about Game Pass. Beep.

llii,

It’s really ridiculous. It costs $273 (without VAT) in Germany. And for what? You can’t even play Playstation games from their cloud service.

hogart,
@hogart@feddit.nu avatar

273!? Oh crap. I didn’t even realise pricing will be off for us in europe. I’d be surprised if they sold more than 1000 units to Sweden.

PonyOfWar,

It costs $273 (without VAT) in Germany

The European price is VAT-included.

Not that that makes it a good price by any means.

llii,

Yeah, that’s why I removed the VAT. It’s 300€ inclusive VAT, that’s 325 USD.

PonyOfWar,

Nope, not sure where you got that from but it’s incorrect. It’s 220€ VAT-included.

llii,

They’ve changed the price in the blog post. There ist still the old price in my feed reader.

https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/28369127-5d1a-4659-8861-d3b7295cc30e.jpeg

https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/37df6c24-c8ab-408c-8157-2eab2c575a6c.jpeg

220 € is more reasonable.

eric5949, do games w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99

“Let’s charge full on handheld console money for a device that can’t function away from a PS5!”

This should be doa but it’s a PlayStation, it’ll probably sell 30 million.

MentalEdge,
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I suspect they may have chosen just the right price. People have paid more than this for controllers that don’t come with a screen attached.

SeatBeeSate,

That’s more for enthusiast hardware. People pay $1000 for keyboards, but that doesn’t mean they’ll drop $200 for a remote streaming device.

MentalEdge, (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

It’s literally the same price as the dualsense edge. You overestimating the capacity for reason among “console enthusiasts”.

SeatBeeSate,

Like I said, I’d consider that enthusiast level hardware. People who game “professionally” or love real flashy things. You can also spend $1000s to make coffee, or get a $10 French press.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

So what’s your point? That people who will pay this price do exist, or that they don’t?

Because now I feel like you’re trying to claim the former, to argue the latter.

SeatBeeSate,

A streaming device is not enthusiast hardware.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Again, I’m confused, are you saying there are people who will buy this, or not?

And that’s a subjective and arbitrary claim. It has no logical merit in arguing for or against whether people will consider this thing worth the price.

SeatBeeSate,

Not, but I think the point has been lost at this point so let’s just move on.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Ok. I was confused because then your argument essentially becomes “there are people who will spend a lot of money on their hobbies and professions due to intense emotional investment, but not on this”.

I agree that the device, based on what we know, is dumb as hell, but I am also pretty sure, that a lot of playstation players will buy, and even enjoy, this thing.

I mean, I use my SteamDeck ten meters from my PC, just so I can play on the sofa instead of an office chair for a bit.

lazycouchpotato, (edited ) do games w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99
@lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t doubt there’s a market for this, I just wish for $200 it had more use cases than just “PS5 controller with a screen”. I have a Steam Deck with Chiaki4deck installed for this and while it does cost 2x, it’s a proper gaming machine and a computer.

I wonder what the internals are, and if it’s moddable.

games that are streamed through PlayStation Plus Premium’s cloud streaming, are not supported.

Would have been cool if they figured out a way to stream those games directly to the Portal.

EDIT: Looks like it runs Android, with Google’s services removed. androiddev.social/…/110939834517107216. Wasn’t aware that there were leaks that confirmed this.

Schaedelbach,

I am pretty sure they know how to get proper cloud streaming going. Even the Vita has it. But why would they? So some people who don’t own a PS5 get this thing and then don’t buy more games and just stream their PS plus games? I can’t imagine they would make much money that way!

Corkyskog,

Isn’t every company making most of their money off their subscription services anyway? Why do they care if I buy a PS5 or not, they literally lose over $50 every time they sell a console. Maybe I am just weird, but I have a PS subscription and have only bought two games… COD for my wife and GTA.

If anything, the smartest play would to require an extra subscription for the device to stream.

Durandal, do games w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99
@Durandal@kbin.social avatar

Yes... I too have heard of the Wii-U

theOneTrueSpoon, do gaming w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99

They really missed the mark not supporting cloud streaming. I was considering getting one if it could do that, as it would be pretty handy while away from home. But £200 for a remote play device is way too much. Playstation just can’t seem to do portables very well

UrLogicFails,

Cloud streaming would be a nice feature, especially since you can get it using the unofficial PSPlay app; but it would probably require a mobile data connection (and I’m not sure how much data it would use, honestly).

So I see why they wouldn’t include the cloud streaming feature, but as you said, it feels pretty feature light without it.

JillyB,

Am I reading it right that it has to be on the same wifi network as a PS5? So it isn’t even portable beyond your house?

impiri, do games w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99

I am absolutely gonna spend $200 and countless hours of frustration to get this thing to run Yoshi’s Island at ~20 fps

NotSteve_, do gaming w PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99

Man the US price is so much cheaper than everywhere else. And even at the US price it seems way too expensive.

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