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itsralC, do games w What's your favorite game through the ears of Original Soundtrack?

I’m surprised no one has said Undertale yet, so I will.

farcaller, do games w What's your favorite game through the ears of Original Soundtrack?

Unreal Tournament and Deus Ex both come to mind. Alexander Brandon was involved in both and his work is absolutely amazing.

If we talk specific singles, though, it’s Morrowind (Nerevar Rising), Control (Take Control), and, recently, Baldur’s Gate 3 (Raphael’s Final Act). Morrowind’s tune is so ingrained in my mind that it’s my to-go whenever I get my hands on a keyboard.

tuckerm,

Great choices there! the Unreal Tournament and Morrowind soundtracks have been stuck in my head for a long time now. UT in particular -- I listen to the full album about once a week while I'm working.

I never played Deus Ex when it came out, so I don't have the nostalgic attachment for that one, but I just discovered this a few days ago: https://alexanderbrandon.bandcamp.com/album/conspiravision-deus-ex-remixed. I bought it and am giving it a full listen today. Highly recommended; probably that much better if you're a fan of the game.

shiveyarbles, do gaming w What is something (feature, modes, settings...) you would like to see become a standard in video games?

I’d like to see leaning around corners for strategic shooters. I think rainbow six used to have this, I know the original system shock had it.

bipmi,

This is a thing thats (slowly) becoming mainstream I think. Rainbow 6 siege has it (or it did when I last played at least) and Battlebit Remastered has it. In Battlebit you can actually lean left / right all the time, no matter if youre against a corner or not. You can even do it in open fields

tal, do gaming w What is something (feature, modes, settings...) you would like to see become a standard in video games?
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I’d rather not have loading screens at all, but if you need them, I’d kind of like a progress bar, rather then just watching some animated doohicky telling me that hopefully the game hasn’t frozen.

I would imagine that it’s probably possible to, if the game emits checkpoints (“loading terrain”, “loading textures”), etc, to record the timestamps for each of those and then, when it emits the same checkpoints next time through, to be able to estimate how far it is through the process.

ampersandrew,
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Estimating loading progress is one of the most hilariously difficult problems to solve in coding video games, to this day, unfortunately.

tal,
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I provided one technical approach above.

ampersandrew,
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It's always more complicated than that. Perhaps each load is very distinct from the last, which wouldn't be uncommon in open world games, and it means you're always doing that load "the first time"; perhaps it's dependent on something like a random seed or network connectivity, which are both extremely variable; perhaps you add new content or DLC regularly that throws off this calculation. All that for a return on development time invested that's probably not worth the effort. It is worth it to show progress to confirm that the system hasn't locked up, and consoles often have certain thresholds to meet for this sort of thing in certification, but beyond that, it's just an extremely difficult thing to do, even for Microsoft.

tal,
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and it means you’re always doing that load “the first time”

So keep the checkpoint list for each world.

perhaps you add new content or DLC regularly that throws off this calculation

If it uses the last checkpoint times, then it should adapt to that.

All that for a return on development time invested that’s probably not worth the effort. It is worth it to show progress to confirm that the system hasn’t locked up

I think that we’re going to have to disagree. I would like to have a progress bar.

ampersandrew,
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A lot of games don't even have checkpoints, and there are a lot of things that could affect load times very differently. I get that you want this to work well, because we all do, but if it was as easy as your high-level explanation, we'd probably have perfect progress bars in things by now. People far more educated than you or I have tried.

tal,
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A lot of games don’t even have checkpoints

The checkpoint I’ve described has nothing to do with “game checkpoints”, where the game saves. This is going to be a checkpoint in the loading process.

People far more educated than you or I have tried.

Let’s pretend for a moment that you aren’t just making an unfounded assertion. Give me a list of names.

ampersandrew,
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I have coded a load screen progress bar before, in the one commercially-released game I worked on (I will not be disclosing), using my own defined checkpoints, like you mentioned. There's still a ton of variability even there, so some percentages seem to take longer than others on different computers. I did research before starting on the task and found the same thing echoed over all the place. Here's an example.

tal,
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Which is why my above suggestion is adaptive to individual computers.

I got exasperated when I ripped out a “fake” progress bar in a commercial product – not a game – that another dev had previously added that I was working on and put in a real one. I don’t agree that this is some insumountable problem.

vrighter,

quick, how fast can you load 1GiB of data?

on an ssd, on an hdd

as one big file or as 1000 tiny files (defragmented and packed vs all over the place, for hdds)

on a freshly booted up system? Loading for a 2nd time on a pc with a fuckton of ram, so all data is still in the fs cache.

Someone who actually loads all data into a memdisk?

It’s just not possible to accurately predict. There are way too many factors.

gk99, do gaming w What is something (feature, modes, settings...) you would like to see become a standard in video games?
  • LET ME TURN OFF THE CLAUSTROPHOBIC VIGNETTE, PLEEEAAASSEEEE. Even games like Cyberpunk 2077 that have gained countless features over the years and have individual HUD on/off switches still ignore this.
  • UGC as a whole. I grew up on Half-Life mods, custom Counter-Strike: Source maps, and LittleBigPlanet. The fact that we’ve pretty much abandoned that outside of Halo, Counter-Strike (just barely, mind you), and more recently Fortnite with proper Unreal Engine support is a terrible thing. It makes more sense than ever in an era of live service where you want players to never stop playing.
ConstableJelly,

What’s a claustrophobic vignette?

conciselyverbose, (edited )

Vignetting is the darkening in a circle pattern at the edge of a photograph/movie caused by the fact that the lens is round and the film/sensor are square.

My guess is that he's referring to games using a similar effect (some do it with blur, too) extremely heavily on a large portion of the edge of the screen to create a tunnel vision effect in some contexts. I couldn't name which games do it, but I've seen it on sprint, stamina depletion, and low health in different games.

ConstableJelly,

I know exactly what you’re referring to, thanks for the examples!

tal,
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I always thought that it was intended to either simulate an old television or to make a scene look scarier, but looking at the wiki page I’ve linked to, it looks like there are a number of stylistic uses.

tal,
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The parent is just saying that he finds it to be claustrophobic.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vignetting

It’s a visual effect where the center of the screen is slightly-lighter than the edges.

I very often see an option to toggle them in video game graphic settings, so I expect that some people don’t like it.

ConstableJelly,

Ah thanks. I looked at vignette on Wikipedia; looks like “vignetting” is a separate entry 🤷.

saigot,

I think companies are more hesitant about ugc these days because of all the extra moderation required.

For instance someone made a sexual assault simulator as a custom overwatch map, and it made headlines, which is extra harmful for a company that is trying to recover from all the SA accusations.

pirrrrrrrr, do games w Super Mario Bros. Wonder - Review Thread - (92/100 OpenCritic)

I played the demo at PAX Aus.

It was terribly bland. It’s pretty, and immaculately coded from a character control point of view as always. Difficulty is much much lower than I expected, and failure did not feel possible at any point.

It’s fun and not a bad game, just gets boring fast, like a Kirby game where you can’t really run out of lives.

Platforming segments are solid as always in their design.

6.5/10

wccrawford,

I’ve played it for a bit, and I enjoy it in short bursts, and then I get tired of it. Maybe 2-3 levels, max, at a time. But I do keep going back and enjoying it again, so…

JadenSmith,

This has been how the latest Mario games have felt to me, even that New Super Mario thing they were doing.

They’ve stripped everything out of Mario that made it fun, gameplay wise, for something that just looks ‘pretty’. These games feel more like tech demos than how I felt growing up with Mario games, and I truly and honestly feel that way. This trailer just looks like the same deal, and you’ve confirmed it for me thanks. Such a shame tbh.

GiovaMC,

Had the same feeling with this final release.

Dyskolos, do games w Tom Clancy Ghosh Recon Wildlands vs Breakpoint

Wildlands. Breakpoint isn’t crap, but Wildlands is just superior. It got more soul at least. BP seemed like a rushed “it worked, let’s do it again!”. From a mostly single-player PoV

pikasaurX4, do games w Super Mario Bros. Wonder - Review Thread - (92/100 OpenCritic)

I’ve been pretty psyched for this as someone who consumes a lot of 2D Mario content including Mario Maker and SMW ROM hacks. Glad to see basically everyone saying it feels solid

However, this quote from Digital Spy,

Instead, Wonder’s strongest moments are when it takes a breather, taking the time to set the scene while letting the platforming do the talking.

Is something I was kinda worried about as well. The wonder effects that were shown seem cool, but I really want the platforming to take the lead role. SMW ROM hacks show us that pure platforming can still be creative as hell. I wonder how SMBW will stack up to the likes of, say, GPW3

LethargyTheGhost,

Or more mainstream, Mario Maker also shows that

rhythmisaprancer, do games w What game did you find in a bargain bin that turned out to be awesome? For me it was Z by Bitmap Brothers which I got at Zellers for $0.47
@rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social avatar

I don't remember the price, and Mom almost certainly paid for it, but Faxanadu. First game I ever beat, got an emulator and sought it out on a rom when those came out, and most recently played it at an arcade that had a bunch of older games loaded onto a "TV" with real controllers. Hadn't used that kind of controller for a long time.

VinesNFluff, do gaming w Do you prefer playing with Keyboard or controller more, and for what type of games?
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Depends on how much shooting is involved.

Mouse aim trumps controller aim after all. But for games that aren’t shooting-focussed I favour controllers because I can flop back.

SomeGuyNamedPaul, do gaming w Do you prefer playing with Keyboard or controller more, and for what type of games?

Controller: Witcher, Cyberpunk, Senua’s Sacrifice, Shadow of War/Mordor

Mouse and Keyboard: Diablo, things that end in “Craft”

HOSAS: Flying things

rockerface, do games w You teleport into the last game world you played. What happens next?

I die of heart attack, bleeding, poison and disease simultaneously near the entrance to the Darkest Dungeon

DrSleepless, do games w You teleport into the last game world you played. What happens next?

I continue my attempts to Slay the Spire

iamtrashman1312,

Stay slayin, friendo

DrSleepless,

503 hours in

nicky7, do games w You teleport into the last game world you played. What happens next?

I have died of dysentery.

Feathercrown, do games w You teleport into the last game world you played. What happens next?

Does D&D count? I could probably have a decent time finding some magic item and then just using it in daily life.

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