I havent played 16 either but i also see almost no appeal. Its clearly an action rpg at heart and that isnt what Final Fantasy was originally about.
The depth of story people expect in the modern era is as high as it was when ff7 ot ff10 released, the only issue is that expectations for production value have gone through the roof.
If anything is holding square enix back from creating the next ff masterpiece, its their commitment to high quality visuals with extremely diverse gameplay, and unfortunately that is what they have groomed their fans to expect. This is why the ff7 remake is being done over 3 games, to get that much story into the visual and gameplay depth people expect, it would probably dilute the experience to cram it into 1 5-year production. That and they make money off 3 games instead of 1 lol
What would salvage ff17 in the eyes of a classic ff fan would be to cut down production value and variations of gameplay. SE just needs to boil in good turn based combat, then focus on creating a beautifully unique setting with deep, engaging lore. That is what was so powerful about ff7 and ff10 imo. A couple minigame distractions would be good, but the amount of effort that went into the minigames in ff7 rebirth is just ridiculous.
It would be nice to see a spinoff series that focused on this at least… We can dream.
Story is mediocre. Dialog is tiresome, I started button spamming to get through a lot of the conversations that didn’t matter. Combat is nothing remarkable, no matter the weapon combos, and the enemies are just damage sponges with no real tactics necessary to defeat a given enemy. Magic is kind of cool but you have to really spec into mage to get there. The immersion is about as deep as a puddle on flat concrete.
It is one of the games of all time, a game you could not play and miss out on nothing.
Edit: Just beat it, terrible ending that feels like it was tacked on last minute to provide some sort of conclusion.
I’m liking it. I’m big on exploration, and I hate when games have difficult but reachable places, but when you get there, there’s nothing. That is not the case with Avowed. Just about every hard to reach place I’ve managed to BS my way to has had something. It’s usually just money and some mats, but occasionally I’ve found some unique equipment or accessories.
Combat is just a slightly better Skyrim combat but with a dodge. I will say the dodge has fucked me multiple times because it’s just the jump button, but if you press any direction other than forward when you press it, you dodge in that direction. So no jumping sideways or backwards. I’ve accidentally dashed to my death off a cliff more than a few times.
I personally don’t think the story and characters are as bad as everyone is saying, but I’m easy to please. It doesn’t seem any worse than Skyrim story-wise. I like that the companions actually have personalities and banter with each other. They feel more like Dragon Age or Mass Effect companions, granted not nearly as deep. But I’ve already laughed several times from their ambient camp banter, and I only have two companions and less than 15 hours of play time.
The beginning tutorial area is weak, and character creation wasn’t very good. I honestly expected to quit after my first short 2ish hour session, but when I finally got set loose in the first real area and started exploring and climbing around on rooftops and finding underwater caves, and finding loot left and right, I got hooked.
The Fallout London mod for Fallout 4 was incredible. It’s like a an entire new game for free. They really captured the spirit of the Fallout universe. Better than anything Bethesda put out in the past couple years
I tried so hard to get this one to work and it just… didn’t. The intro played, vanilla FO4 started. I patched it again, vanilla intro started, crash to desktop. Even tried versions from Steam & GoG. Manually patched it, failed. Downloaded the patcher from GoG, failed.
Outer worlds was received perhaps even better and was more popular than Avowed is currently. People’s memories are fuzzy I guess but Outer Worlds was a genuine GOTY contender.
Yeah that doesn’t track at all with what I remember people saying, and what I remember thinking myself.
I distinctly remember people citing the repetitive gameplay, short campaign, shallow choices, etc. I’m not sure why it was ever a GOTY contender, but there simply never was any way it would ever beat a game like Sekiro. It’s likely that “new Obsidian RPG” drove any hype surrounding the game.
Edit: Disco Elysium came out in 2019, that fact alone tells you that Outer Worlds being a contender was uhh… if not fraudulent, then certainly questionable.
I’m sorry but I genuinely don’t care what game journalists think. Their opinions are about as valuable as mud, and at least I can grow plants from mud.
Every single discussion I see searching up on Google ‘is Outer Worlds good’ are sponsored reviews from people who got the game for free, or B average reviews from people who got the game for dirt cheap. When I find what real people have to say about Outer Worlds, it’s almost unanimous that it was bad.
Don’t apologize for having an opinion. Just apologize for discounting the ones that don’t agree with yours. It’s listed as very positive on Steam and sold very well. Your hyperbole about everyone saying it was bad is provably wrong.
I think I'm a bit spoiled with my 144 Hz monitor; anything below maybe 120 FPS starts to bug me. Thankfully my PC is pretty powerful and I don't really play graphics-heavy games (mostly just Minecraft) so my framerate is usually quite stable.
yea dependencies seem like a real issue here, I don’t think Linux supports side-by-side versions like Windows does, Windows will just install every version of DirectX and libraries like that
I hate questions like this. How would anyone but you know if it’s fun? Fun is completely subjective. Some people didn’t have fun in Veilguard. I had a lot of fun in Veilguard. Was Veilguard A good game? Now that’s a bit different question.
Things can be both not good but also fun. Among Us isn’t going to win game awards for narrative, but it was fun as hell to play.
Only way to tell if it’s fun is to go and play it, and return it if you don’t like it. Stop letting other people tell you if you’re having fun or not. Just, go enjoy things
Yep. For what it’s worth. I played about six hours today and had an absolute blast. Definitely some UI weaknesses, but I’ve been focusing more on the big changes to the gameplay loop, and I like them so far.
Your disclaimer is what I really like tbh. We’re all just random people online with our own opinions, why would anyone take our word for if something is fun?
Yeah, I now have six hours in the game between last night and today. I actually finally just stopped after a few hour stretch.
I’m having fun! But I also have seen some bugs. I can get behind waiting if some smaller bugs are annoying, but I’m enjoying the game quite a bit.
I’m pretty happy that it runs alright on my Mac Mini M4. Starts up quick and gets going. It defaults to High settings but I turned the shadows down a bit just to keep things a little smoother.
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