Dark Souls since it doesn‘t stop you in your tracks much. I dislike tutorials that stop you and make you read walls of text or force you to input/click exactly what it wants you to.
I was coming here to mention Dark Souls. It's an excellent example of how to make a tutorial not feel like a tutorial. Either you take the time to understand what the game is telling you or not, up to you. Don't care about going through the entire tutorial area? Just beat the boss and start the real adventure.
Force them to jump in the tutorial, and solve the main boss thing through normal storytelling, whichever way makes sense for your game. If the only time you need to know something is late game and there’s nothing to remind you mid-game, that’s poor design.
Dark Souls has a good tutorial because it lets you skip it? That’s your bar for a good tutorial?
Souls games are terrible at even explaining what the buttons do. Every blind lets play I’ve seen it is like 30 minutes before the player even discovers they have estus or what it is for.
Yes, I prefer a game that lets me figure things out on my own through gameplay instead of popups. You are (arguably) forced to engage with the game‘s mechanics to beat the level, it has parries, environmental hazards, ambushes all in it without huge punishment in case of failure. I take the aha moment of using estus over „press square to heal.“ I‘m aware that others might need more guidance, but I didn’t and hence it‘s a great tutorial for me.
I wouldn‘t mind replaying the tutorial even now after having done it dozens of times already. It doesn‘t feel like one, I’m already playing the game and having fun, immersed in its world. So my bar is: The best tutorials don‘t feel like tutorials at all.
If I don’t want to play the tutorial and I get absolutely blasted, then I gotta walk my sorry self back to the tutorial like the idiot I chose to be. I like to press all the buttons and figure stuff out on my own, its part of the exploration process.
I don’t hate when certain gameplay elements are forced, but when I am given that impression I expect the whole game to be like that. The tutorial in Dark Souls promised me the game wasn’t going to hold my hand the whole time by letting me completely skip the tutorial, and then it kept that promise. It didn’t hold my hand. And I think that was great. Meanwhile Call of Duty tutorials hold your hand the whole time, and then your hand keeps getting held for the whole game. Also good.
The tutorials I think are bad are ones that fail to properly communicate important features of the game. If I choose to skip that part it is no fault of the game.
For example, Helldivers 2, which I enjoy greatly, has a tutorial that fails to teach the player what the Galactic War means, anything about the various mission types, or especially how to deal with supply lines and reinforcement routes. What happens in the players spend a lot of time and effort doing the wrong thing expecting the right result, a result they can never achieve because the game never actually told them how to do it. There isn’t a bestiary where players can read about various enemies and their weak spots, you just have to trial and error figure it out, or have someone else that did that already tell you.
Yup, this was me. I picked up Stellaris probably not even a year ago at this point. While not entirely friendly, I at least made peace with my neighbors during my first play through. And then for my second play through I pirated all the DLC because holy fucking shit that’s expensive. I ended up becoming the crisis, blew up some stars, and eventually the whole universe. Good times.
I have categories too, I have trash category for uninteresting games from humble bundles and random keys purchases, I have the played category for games I played, and I have the uber trash shit game category for sacred 3 and two worlds
Sadly, I am too caught up in the idea of it being a Pinnochio souls-like to ever take that game seriously. All power to the people that like it, however
I get that - it was the same thing for me. It’s barely noticeable, though, unless you’re very familiar with the novel and the Disney adaptation. It’s a very tasteful homage to the novel by Carlo Collodi, but you don’t need to have read the novel to appreciate the game for what it is. It’s essentially Bloodborne 2 for what it’s worth. Truly amazing game.
Might just be a tad biased :D But if you keep an open mind about it and that’s all that’s keeping you from giving it a try, I promise you - you won’t regret trying it. There should still be a demo for the game if you’re up for it. :)
spoilerIt is much more than just Pinocchio’s story. Dorothy makes an appearance and there are hints of Red Riding Hood, Sleeping Beauty, Beauty & the Beast and a few others are alluded to throughout the game if you pay close attention.
The story also takes after the older rendition of the tale that is much more mature in its representation of themes. Think of it like a “Brothers Grimm” version instead of the watered down Disney edition.
Came here to say this, their implementation for his extreme measures modifier is ideal. Every other boss has all sorts of cool new moves, but the final boss is doing absolutely nothing new through the first two phases, then takes a knee like always. You might start to wonder if it’s malfunctioning for a moment, then that guitar tells you loud and clear that you’re about to get fucked hard.
They write a great deal, show how the game feels, express how they’ve enjoyed the games and if they’d recommend them. I consider these posts one of the more valuable we have here in this community. It’s not just a link and a one-liner, they’re writing and sharing their experiences and creativity. Formatted and so well made.
Its insane to me that you’d think this is shit. What would you prefer be posted here?
The screenshots frustrated me too, because I’ve seen that done before where it’s a daily screenshot and nothing else, feels low-effort and annoying and somehow spammy even if it’s still on topic. Although my approach was to just scroll on, especially since it was just another spam post and not outrage-inducing. If it got truly bothersome I could always click the user and block.
Then I actually clicked one and saw the thoughts. They belong here. Wish there was a simple way for the poster to communicate to people like me, who got tired of seeing low-effort “screenshot a day” stuff and will make assumptions, that their posts are more than those and have actual words and effort with them.
@MyNameIsAtticus needs to change the title to “Daily thoughts: game X, game Y, game Z.” Continually saying “screenshot” each time is misleading and does legitimately sound spammy and annoying. A simple title change would be so much better.
I have actually thought about this! I’ve changed the name a couple times before. Usually I have people asking about it the name change though. I’m considering doing it after I reach a year, I might do it sooner though after seeing someone else now after seeing someone else say the same thing.
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