Based on the author, the bi pride flag pie chart, and the community logo, I thought this was post was about gay dating and, while a little baffling, I cordially invite you all to share my misinterpretation and think about telling your partner “I can’t heal you through walls”
I’ve gotten easily $200 worth of value out of it, and if mine broke I’d buy another one. Sometimes niche things deserve the extra price. It’s more of a problem of the world draining everyone’s disposable income for niche things like these.
congratulations on starting your journey with adult games!
i’ve found my way to it via visual novels. my initial thought were like they’re almost the same as any “teenage-romance book” but with more interaction so what could go wrong, right?
totally agree with you that there’s a lot of stigma going on around sexuality that makes people miss out on good games.
If you’re open to a platformer, the only explicitly adult game I’ve tried is FlipWitch. The gimmick is that you can change your sex, with certain obstacles only able to be passed through by a specific sex. You also have clothing that can only be worn by each sex, and certain NPCs won’t interact unless you’re wearing certain items. It’s a solid metroidvania, and while it’s not going to blow you away, I still enjoyed my time with it.
Oh yeah, I saw that one earlier and threw it on my wishlist for later. It looks pretty good. I picked up Scarlet Maiden instead for now, which is also a pixel-based naughty game, but looks to be a roguelite and is supposed to have great gameplay too.
I’ve always been open to adult only games, but for the vast majority there are only two basic types:
Visual Novels - Everything about these is fine. They vary from basically just a graphic novel to a full on RPG.
Nude Puzzles - Various cheap-ass puzzles with nude images as the prize.
I want, like, a real game but with full adult only content. These exist, but are hard to find. And a lot of those I’ve found aren’t finished, never will be finished, and/or just suck. It doesn’t even have to be the focus. Just imagine if when you got a hooker in GTA or some other game where brothels might exist, you got to see more than a fade to black/car bouncing around.
A good H-game with more that 4 hours of content, good porn, and good gameplay are rare finds. Not to mention the pain in the ass of finding the decensor patches or using a non-Steam, non-English site to buy it.
That seems like a fair assessment of the current state of things, but I do want to stress how good Huniepop is as a puzzle game alone. One sparkling jewel in a sea of erotic sliding puzzle and jigsaw crap.
If you removed everything outside the actual gem matching gameplay and soundtrack, I would still play it.
And yeah, I started poking around and saw some of the more ambitious open world projects like you’re talking about, and they all looked like abandoned early access. But if they have the technical ability, why not show my character licking some Asari ladyparts in Mass Effect 5? Adults play a shitload of video games too. Make it an optional DLC if you have to.
The biggest issue with adult content in games is that it limits your market to adults that want that content. Which is already small to begin with. And you often can’t advertise the same way, which limits your audience further. You only find out about them through word of mouth or through places like Lemmy.
From the standpoint of the developer, your ROI is likely to be very small. I think that’s why VN are the most popular form of adult games, since they are easier to make than full games.
Its inherently a gamble. Yes, it limits you to that audience (which is increasingly villified by christofacists and the influencers who “don’t want people to think they are gooners”). But it also makes you the king OF that audience.
Subspace is a great example. It had an incredibly vague and over ambitious crowdfunding campaign and it did gangbusters. Because people are hungry for a horny game that is actually a game. That said, it feels like other devs realized that was a thing and the patreon-style sites are now the main focus and discoverability went to zero.
Which is why I think the next big step is a blogsite that actually covers these without feeling like you are just reading a guy’s wank diary (… which we kind of are but it is nice to not think about that). Its the same problem onlyfans et al have. The biggies keep getting bigger but there is almost zero way to find out about the newbies.
It’s still in development but they’ve done a ton of work on it to, already, be pretty flashed out game and its development hasn’t slowed any over the years.
Alicesoft is one of the major dev studios in this exact space, but their games range from having some non-con to outright featuring it. Not for everyone.
in general, people choose adult games explicitly to get off, so putting a bunch of unrelated activities between them and that is not a recipe for success.
or in other words: good gameplay makes for bad porn, and vice versa.
i understand what you are asking for, and the solution for that is modding;
check out loverslab!
the biggest communities (i know of) for this are:
Skyrim Special Edition
Fallout 4
The Sims 4
RimWorld
all of these have what you’re asking for, with varying levels of integration into the main game!
and since it’s modded content, you even get to decide how much, and what kind of, adult content there is in your game!
and when i say everything is customizable, i mean everything!
Może po prostu powinienem zacząć kupować jakiś papierowy dwutygodnik i na podstawie tego wyrabiać sobie opinie, bo wtedy te informacje będą bardziej wartościowe?
Sam się nad tym zastanawiam, bo za dużo czasu zjada codziennie doswiadczanie treści niskiej jakości.
Before the Steam censorship spectacle, payment processors pushed quite hard against eroge sites until Japanese government stepped in and payment processor backed down as a result. We need a similar move for the western adult games.
Thanks for the warning. I’d started playing because I needed a distraction from some hard IRL stuff, so that’s good to know. It was nice that when I fired up Being a DIK from the same bundle, they straight out ask you at the beginning if you’re going through shit right now, and gently suggest the game may be rough for you if you are.
Adult games give emotional support these days. Not all, but many understand and respect the player to a degree not normally found in games. And because all the right wing puritans aren’t playing those games, no one is complaining about other hot button topics like gender, equality, etc.
LoF does the same mid game right before it hits the hardest with even offering to skip the scene entirely. However all characters are really likable, have some really good development and it is an overall (bitter)sweet story with lots of happy endings
when I fired up Being a DIK from the same bundle, they straight out ask you at the beginning if you’re going through shit right now, and gently suggest the game may be rough for you if you are.
Considering the dev’s previous game, Acting Lessons, that warning is worth taking seriously. That game has a fantastic story, but it has some rough shit go down. Although I will say that by the end of season 1 of Being a ΔΙΚ I don’t think there had been much “rough if you’re going through some shit” stuff. I haven’t played season 2 yet.
Yeah nah there is no gameplay there its pure coomer shit. Match 3 puzzle game, thats not a genre the only games that use that has their core gameplay are designed to be scams.
It’s certainly what the majority of the genre became with the advent of mobile gaming, as with so many other simple puzzle games. But the original Bejeweled and Puzzle Quest were both excellent and huge hits, and were complete games before the microtransaction garbage that came later.
It’s a nice genre for relaxing and turning off your brain, similar to a Tetris or a Bust-A-Move. I know there have to be titty and microtransaction filled variants of both of those, does it invalidate them as puzzle game genres?
Yeah coomer games are similar to mobile games. Theyre puzzle games that are designed to be extremely easy to make players feel good. They are technically still puzzle games just bad ones.
Maybe the match 3 stuff, but there are a lot of ‘adult’ games that are beyond that. Go play The Last Sovereign and tell me it isn’t better than all the final fantasies, I dare you.
I was going to mention The Last Sovereign in this thread. It’s a little bit hard to recommend because it’s like, barely modified RPG maker sprites and some serviceable art for sex scenes, along with the difficulty. However that game is a damn magnum opus.
Welcome to the club! Theres tons of Japanese eroge that became anime like Fate. Just because theres sexy time, don’t mean the story aint a banger either!
Oh right, I have actually heard that about Fate. I never played any of the games, but I caught a lot of Unlimited Blade Works when my wife was watching it, and it seemed pretty solid.
I’ve still got the original visual novels sitting on my backup drive, somewhere. I played through the major first storyline, but hadn’t gotten around to UBW and… oh boy, heaven’s something? Definitely was a great read, even after starting with the anime.
One other side point that came to mind after the main post.
We’re so conditioned to think realistic violence in games is fine, but realistic sex in games is “wrong” or “sad”. But honestly, I realized I played through 3+ games without doing any violence* and had a blast, and that was actually really refreshing.
We’re so conditioned to think realistic violence in games is fine, but realistic sex in games is “wrong” or “sad”.
Not just in games. In all media. You bring to mind a great quote from George R. R. Martin.
“I can describe an axe entering a human skull in great explicit detail and no one will blink twice at it. I provide a similar description, just as detailed, of a penis entering a vagina, and I get letters about it and people swearing off. To my mind this is kind of frustrating, it’s madness. Ultimately, in the history of [the] world, penises entering vaginas have given a lot of people a lot of pleasure; axes entering skulls, well, not so much.”
Not just sex; dancing, music, poetry, novels, games, decorations. Anything which takes joy in life and expression is forbidden.
Suffering while alive is seen as the proper punishment for being born human - seeing people and nature as beautiful and divine is legitimately blasphemy to these people.
I remember a quote from a famous porn actor “nacho vidal”.
“I’d rather have my kids playing with “fake plastic penises” around the house than playing with fake plastic firearms.”
I’m not comfortable with the idea of kids playing with sexual toys. But it makes me feel something weird that I’m not more weirded out by kids playing to kill with fake guns.
And this isn’t just the lead and the love interest: supporting characters look this way too, and even villains (frequently clad in monstrous makeup) are still played by conventionally attractive performers. Even background extras are good-looking, or at least inoffensively bland. No one is ugly. No one is really fat. Everyone is beautiful.
Heh, this reminds me of this scene in Last Action Hero (Just watch until 1:34 or so for the scene I’m referring to.
Honestly though, I think this might be starting to change. Looking at shows like Resident Alien and Wheel of Time, for example, there are plenty of casting choices that go against that trend. Now, I’m not saying anyone in these shows is ugly or anything like that, but there are a lot of folks being cast who are not “classic Hollywood pretty” and it’s very nice to see. I like seeing people playing the everyday Joe art who actually looks like an everyday Joe. It really breaks immersion for me when the “ugly girl” part is played by someone who is beautiful dressed in a frumpy outfit.
Yeah, usually the stars are classically attractive still, but there’s a lot more space for other people in other roles. I think comedy in particular has a lot of stars who aren’t incredibly hot.
However, probably a lot of people who are getting jobs as extras are trying to make their way in the industry. The industry, being dominated by attractive people, attracts attractive people. Ugly people fear they wouldn’t succeed, so it creates a selection bias.
Omg what an utter dogshit of an article this is. I bet a fat person expecting unnecessary sex scenes in action movies wrote it. Like go watch some BBW porn you whale.
I didn’t expect a media critique article to make it click why I don’t find “ideal” body types half as attractive as a chick with a realistic belly (of any size sans starvation) and a flirtatious smile.
But yeah, media and culture have become largely sterilized in regards to sex.
well tbf one of the detailed sex scenes (in the book) is between a 30 yrs old khal drogo with a 13 year old daenerys targaryen, and it’s being depicted as a good thing, he’s the first guy that cares about her
Leading up to the release of Cyberpunk 2077 a relatively innocent post about whether players would be able to romance anyone and sleep with them. The absolute mockery and scorn OP received was shameful. It really struck me because it was so clear how we’ve been conditioned to reject sexuality while at the same time being ultra-desensitized to violence.
What I do recall was one guy asking very specific questions about how much we would be able to customize genitals, and whether sex would be fully interactive with visuals of full penetration.
And while none of those things are wrong per se, the general vibe of asking about all of those things was very weird and pervy.
Hm maybe my memory of the post is fuzzy but that is more pervy than I recalled. Still gets to the larger point though about how we talk about violence in graphic detail with no self-consciousness but can’t do the same for sexuality.
You know that even fantasy sex is a problem to the puritan mind, even mild representations of sex like activities becomes weird. Well in the Western society that is. I found out that some temples in India are finely decorated with more or less explicit scenes. In certain societies sex is seen as an engine. The issue with violence is that it isn’t just highly but it’s nearly a constant in our western society. Go back to the middle ages, how many people whacked each other in popular imagery. Even recently we have seen more violence than ever. Gore doesn’t do much any longer for many adults, but it’s supposed to elicit a strong evolutionary reflex of disgust and fear. I feel we’ve been overexposed to these things, but not others.
Part of the actual answer to that question is that, while violence is often loud and public (and sometimes government sanctioned on massive scales), sex is something that is usually done in private, intimate settings without observers.
Please note that this is mostly an American thing, in European TV and books we have naked people and (not too explicit detail in TV, books differ) sex.
Some of us are always wondering about this. Something 18+ might be sex or gore related.
Kinda funny to see it in Canada as well, especially when you throw Quebec culture into the mix (things seem a little more sex positive over there compared to other parts of the country, which is neat to think about sometimes).
It was wild being raised by my mother who didn’t mind if I saw consensual sex, because I should eventually have sex, but restricted all violence because ideally I’ll never see violence in person.
I have no idea how good this is a philosophy for raising children. Sample size is too small.
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