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Cocodapuf, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I still use steam on Windows 7. I don’t see the problem.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Do you worry about connecting it to the internet?

Cocodapuf,

Nope

Shannaresh,

Just please make sure it’s not internet connected if you value such things as your privacy, and bank accounts not being breached extremely easily. End of security support is no joke.

Cocodapuf,

I don’t really use the browser on that machine. It still has basic virus protection, and such.

End of security support is no joke.

Well really… that all depends on if you’re laughing.

Shannaresh,

Using a browser isn’t the only way it would be connected to the internet though, I know for sure there are malware bots actively searching for network connected XP machines that can brick systems just for existing on a public network, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the same wasn’t the case for 7. Anti-virus can only do so much for you if you’re a victim of ransomware or some remote execution exploit found since EOL

Cocodapuf,

Well, I have the ultimate defense against ransomware, full disk backups. Honestly, with automated backups, the whole world is a little less scary.

tenchiken, do games w any one remembers the PS2 prince of persia games?

Looking forward to this

nuko147, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@nuko147@lemm.ee avatar

I’m in Windows 11. I have regret it, but after so many tweaks of the system, removing telemetries, changing menus, and other Windows shit, i had not the energy to move back to Windows 10.

Only OS change i am willing to make is to move to Linux, but gaming is not there yet, and am now trying to move from big proprietary companies to FOSS, so time is needed.

glog78,
@glog78@digitalcourage.social avatar

@nuko147 @The_Picard_Maneuver

May i ask why gaming on linux isn't for you ?

serratur,

I assume he is playing an FPS game with anti-cheat, everything else just works.

Rbnsft,

Or League of legends. Cant play on Linux with riot anticheat

nuko147,
@nuko147@lemm.ee avatar

Nvidia user, i saw a 10-15% performance difference (maybe more in some games), some anti-cheat do not work, so i can not install these games. I used both Mint and Nobara with latest drivers running and proton-GE.

glog78,
@glog78@digitalcourage.social avatar

@nuko147

Thanks alot for the information. I understand the pain points and cross my fingers that nvidia finds fast the issues of their drivers being slower in vkd3d https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/directx12-performance-is-terrible-on-linux/303207/58

If you ever wanna try again you should stick to a gaming distribution like nobara. A lot of performance can also get lost just because esync / fsync aren't configured correctly in the distribution. This should be fixed in the near future too , once https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/merge_requests/7226 is merged and people use modern kernels aka > 6.14.

Thanks again for the informations.

Zwrt,

Might be game dependent but nowadays games like withcher 3 run better on linux then windows for me.

Anti-cheat is admittedly a pain though. Chivalry 2 used to work and now no longer does.

Though those anti cheats tend to be very invasive so i prefer if everyone moved to a system thats is user personal security first so the market would align with that.

sanpedropeddler,

My experience with Linux gaming has varied pretty wildly. My old r9 290x could hardly run anything on linux. And if it did, it would run horribly compared to on windows.

Recently I upgraded to an rx 7600, and nearly everything works out of the box or with minor tweaks. And it performs similarly to windows, even better on occasion.

nuko147,
@nuko147@lemm.ee avatar

Yeah NVIDIA GPUs, like mine, suck at Linux.

calum,

Gaming on Linux has never been better. Out of the top 100 (mostly Windows platform) games, only 7 are entirely unplayable according to www.protondb.com

80/100 are Gold or Platinum rated which means very playable. I often get better performance in Linux than Windows, even with the default open source drivers. I am using an AMD GPU which gives an advantage as they have better open source support, but for NVIDIA all the Linux distros I’ve used have had a documented path to install their binary drivers for better performance. My only bugbear is the game developers that actively hate Linux and that try to disable their game from working via anti cheat.

It’s true that it sometimes takes a bit more tinkering, especially if you’re using some esoteric controller or other funky hardware, but in the days of LLMs that can coach you through issues it’s more accessible than it’s ever been.

nuko147,
@nuko147@lemm.ee avatar

Nvidia GPUs are not good in Linux at the moment. And yeah all what you said. But i had tried Linux for gaming like something 5-8 years ago, and the situation is so much better now.

CeeBee_Eh,

Nvidia GPUs are not good in Linux at the moment

They’ve been perfectly fine for years. And now they’ve never been better for desktop DEs.

nuko147,
@nuko147@lemm.ee avatar

When I say they’re ‘not good,’ I mean they run slower. AMD and Intel GPUs perform nearly as well as they do on Windows, but Nvidia GPUs can suffer up to a 20% performance loss on Linux, depending on the game.

kazerniel, (edited )
@kazerniel@lemmy.world avatar

My Steam profile is apparently 30% platinum, 21% gold, 10% varying levels of broken, 39% unrated.

But Genshin Impact, one of my main games, doesn’t even appear on ProtonDB, and as far as I heard you need a custom Linux launcher for it, that results in occasional banwaves, which I will not risk :/ (Edit: if ProtonDB only lists Steam games, that would explain why Genshin is missing.)

Elevator7009,

Windows 11 -> Linux just for gaming and I am satisfied!

However, I also do not play things with big graphics requirements, kernel-level anticheat, and I do not have any fancy GPUs like Nvidia that make things incompatible. I transitioned on a laptop. So YMMV.

FelixCress, do games w Are there any games you don't play as it was intended to be played? If so, what game and how?

Like playing Gwent instead of fighting monsters as the witcher?

who,

An argument could be made that Gwent offers better gameplay than the larger game in which it resides.

takeda,

Then you purchased a wrong game and should just play solitaire.

Witcher 3 is absolutely great, but if you just go through only the main quest, won’t explore the world and won’t do side quests then I can see you ending up disappointed.

What I like is that side quests can impact the main quest and even the ending.

who, (edited )

Then you purchased a wrong game

Perhaps.

But you’ve made a lot of assumptions in your comment, and you’re mistaken about most of them.

I played the side quests. Many came with a good backstory, but that is not gameplay. Nearly all were copy/paste instances from a small pool of tedious tasks. There were a few memorable exceptions, but very few.

I explored the world, as much as one can “explore” something that is fully labeled with point-of-interest markers. They lead the player to a repetitive handful of uninspired encounters, cloned over and over again.

It has plenty of other flaws as well. If you loved it, then I’m happy for you, but I found the gameplay boring.

The strengths I found in The Witcher 3 were its story, lore, characters, and Gwent. Not its gameplay.

Meanwhile, Gwent is a surprisingly well-designed strategy game. So much so that it ended up spun off into a stand-alone version (although I don’t know how good the spinoff is).

To each their own, I suppose.

MolochAlter,

Gwent is actually a slight hack of an existing board game called Condottiere, which is IMO the better game.

who,
MolochAlter,

Yep. I played an earlier version but it’s the same game.

The key thing that made me notice was the scarecrow cards that allowed you to pick up your units, those make sense in Condottiere as it’s divided in rounds where you fight multiple battles, so it made sense to pick up your units if you had excess power and were winning anyway, save your strength for the next battle in the round, whereas it made a lot less sense in Gwent given its 1v1 nature and fixed amount of rounds.

Mind you Gwent evolved a lot afterwards, I don’t know much beyond the witcher 3 version, which I still enjoyed plenty.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Are we certain Witcher is the larger game in which Gwent resides and not the other way around?

FelixCress,

An argument could be made that you are a genius. Both arguments would be equally wrong.

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

There is no argument if the statement is objectively true

The Witcher 3’s gameplay was so bad that I couldn’t finish it (the map and the quests’ gameplay part too, but that’s another story). Gwent was pretty cool though

SolarMonkey,

I felt that way about blitzball in final fantasy 10 (I think). Never finished the actual game.

pycorax, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Unpopular opinion but I’m just using 11. I deal with enough problems with Linux at work and as hard as it is to believe, Windows just work and fits my workflow too well. Linux works great on my Steam Deck but the occasional weird quirks it has with certain games/launchers means I can’t use it as my main gaming platform, it’s only fine on the Deck because it has advantages for the form factor.

novacomets,

All games work in 11. You will get the best picture quality for graphics on 11. More DX9 games work in 11 than worked in 10. Path tracing is best on 11. I have some games that are DVD installs, no game store launcher.

There are different Linux programs that address most Windows issues but not all. With Windows, you can install Win 11, install GPU driver, and start playing games. I do avoid using Steam due to their extortion, so eventually I find games that can’t run on Linux.

gnuplusmatt,

Windows 11 has better image quality? I’m sorry what?

Lycaon, do games w I really need these games ported to Steam. What do y'all have on your lists?
@Lycaon@lemm.ee avatar

Skies of Arcadia!! So much of the Dreamcast library is on Steam it’s crazy to me they skipped out on this one. Yes I know I can just emulate it but I’d love to see it on Steam haha

Tales of Xillia 1 and 2 as well, as far as I know they’ve yet to be released from the PS3 prison. I do have some semblance of hope for these ones though seeing as Bandai Namco are pretty good about remasters/rereleases

TheFANUM, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@TheFANUM@lemmy.world avatar

Been Linux exclusively for 20 years. Win 11 sure isn’t going to change that

PushButton,

Imagine that, Windows 11 can remember everything you did in the past 3 months, it’s making sure that you didn’t forget about Office 365, Xbox Live subscriptions, and about Edge, the browser embedded deeply in the OS…

Sometimes, for your convenience, it will put Edge as the default, but you totally can change it back to what it was!

Are you sure you don’t want to switch? You’re missing a lot there…

Ibuthyr,

I despise Microsoft just as much as you do, but I’ve never encountered the things you just wrote. Ist that a home edition problem?

cupcakezealot, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

too late already did switch to linux :3

eezeebee, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 6th
@eezeebee@lemmy.ca avatar

Dark Souls 2, again. I’m helping a new player and the really bad co-op mechanics might be enough to push me to try out some mods like seamless co-op and the lighting engine which looks gorgeous.

Dome Keeper. I didn’t realize it was made in Godot which is neat and encouraging to see. I really like the gameplay loop and graphics and look forward to unlocking more things to shake it up.

New Super Lucky’s Tale. The burrow mechanic was pretty fun. While the game wasn’t very challenging it was still a good playthrough and visually strong. The best part was the bonus world at the end where you really get to let the abilities rip, especially in combat. I wish there were more enemies around in the rest of the game because the way you can chain together attacks and create a “flow” was fun and seriously under-utilized.

MoistHoagie,

I’ve been playing with the seamless co-op mod with a friend on Dark Souls III and it is the best way to play in my opinion. Same goes for Elden Ring. No way I would have played through 5 times with the built in co-op.

LaserTurboShark69, do games w I really need these games ported to Steam. What do y'all have on your lists?

The PS2 exclusive War of the Monsters

mohab,

How do you feel about Gigabash?

LaserTurboShark69,

It’s fun but doesn’t quite scratch the itch. It’s a lot more arcade-y and simpler than War of the Monsters. Way smaller maps and less environmental interaction

WILSOOON, do games w Day 263 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing

I like palworld, unfortunately its got a memory leak somewhere when playing with proton that causes it to eat shit and die

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

That’s odd. I’ve been playing with proton too and haven’t run into it. Do you mind if I ask what version of proton you’re using?

WILSOOON,

If i remember correctly it was with 9.0.3, i did a little digging and its because os some opengl fuckery x nvidia going worng. Been a hot minute tho and it could have been fixed

sfu, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

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    Found the village idiot

    terrifyingtuba, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

    I am going to attempt to switch to Linux, I’m definitely not going to willingly use windows platforms again.

    humpacactus,

    As a lifelong windows gamer I’ve just switched to cachyos and honestly it’s been fantastic. Performance seems on par (or within 5 percent) and it’s super customizable. Haven’t had any issues getting things working, including non-steam alphas. Went into it thinking I’d probably switch back, but have no need currently. You definitely need some troubleshooting skills, but nothing too crazy if you already tinker a bit in windows.

    Edit: I’m also running triple monitors at 144hz and it’s been completely fine (and I’m on Nvidia).

    kjetil,

    For those of us who didn’t know, CachyOS is and Arch-based distor with performance focus and some ease of use tools.

    this blog explains some difference to other Arch-based distros

    EndlessNightmare,

    I bought a new computer a few years ago that has 11 on it. With how the Steam Deck has seemed to really promote Linux for gaming, I’m seriously considering it on my next build.

    It is very obvious to me that Windows is becoming increasingly subject to enshittification.

    terrifyingtuba,

    Yeah, proton seems to really work wonders, and it seems it’s only going to get better. I have windows 11 on my work laptop and I hate it.

    HexesofVexes, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

    It’s going to be purchase a new hard drive and then jump to Linux Mint this August.

    It’s not an experience I am looking forward to (5080S, I do a lot of modding, and enjoy fangames/indie games which do not always play nice with linux) but needs must - the Linux community in general is very friendly, so we’ll get through it, even if the first 6 months are rough. I’ll keep the dual boot and push the windows partition to 11 if needed by work, that way I can put off rewriting my elderly access database for another few years.

    Honestly, Microsoft are committing suicide when it comes to home users. It won’t be sudden, but the wheels are turning, all the IT savvy folks are switching people over (already did my aunt’s potato, mum’s demi-tato is next week). Eventually, a tipping point will be reached and offices will start switching - I hope that day comes before I die of old age!

    kjetil,

    Tip: Add your non-steam games to steam to launch launch them with Proton. thats probably the easiest way.

    Otherwise there’s Bottles and Lutris (and maybe HeroicLauncher)

    Iceblade02,

    There’s also umu!

    It essentially (if I’ve understood things correctly) aims to replicate the behaviour of proton.

    Works like a charm, I have a simple alias set up that will run almost any .exe - even installers and stuff. Only thing that hasn’t worked so far was my digital exam software (that is essentially a windows rootkit) because it couldn’t find the cursor images lol.

    HexesofVexes,

    Thanks for the tips!

    Lutris I’ve used with some success, and I’m somewhat ok with wine when it works out if the box (or troubleshooting using the wine wiki).

    Do you recommend any other sites/guides for troubleshooting?

    kjetil,

    Bottles is just a GUI to help you set up wine environments without having to deal with wine directly.

    For troubleshooting just the lutris forums and wine bugtracker. I mostly play steam games so protondb is the best source of troubleshooting tips.

    AceFuzzLord,

    …all the IT savvy folks are switching people over…

    Totally feels strange because my dad’s laptop doesn’t have the TPM requirement and he was telling me about how he was talking to the IT guy at his work about possibly switching to Linux just so he can keep his laptop. No clue if he’s gonna have me or ask if Mr. IT can do it, though, if he follows through. Absolutely insane because I might not be the only person in my house using it anymore (android not included because I view it as a completely separate entity).

    I was telling him that day that I could flash Mint (have the most recent addition on my laptop) to a thumb drive if he was actually wanting to switch over. He’s definitely an average computer user, so nothing too special, but it still feels real weird.

    Though this will also suck for a while because the tech savvy people helping them switch over will also be running IT for these people who have never used Linux before and most likely have never even used windows CMD either. Cannot wait for stories of people being fed up because their parent/aunt/uncle/friend/whoever looked up how to fix their device and entered the cursed rf command without thinking once about it.

    Frieren,

    Best part is, if they do switch over they won’t go back. Not having to deal either bloat and telemetry is worth it.

    dreugeworst,

    good thing about the terminal is it scares most general users so much that they won’t touch it even with instructions. There will be many issues, but I don’t think people running random commands in the terminal will be common

    HexesofVexes,

    So, in the case of my aunt, there were a few teething troubles. That said, a lot of it was just requests to add web page shortcuts to her desktop.

    The really big thing is that she’s stopped complaining about how slow her laptop is, and openly says she finds it easier to use.

    Most of the troubleshooting is going to be around office software and games. It’s also going to be about replacing windows tools (I am really going to miss my “.bat cave”), and learning new troubleshooting skills (wine is a bit rough to troubleshoot unless you’re willing to get your mining gear out and dig deep into logs).

    communist,
    @communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

    Mint

    I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

    I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

    The mere fact that it generates a new system for you on update and lets you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

    How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

    Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

    Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lmde is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

    I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

    HexesofVexes,

    So, oddly enough, I’m not a complete novice. My background is mostly just lubuntu, puppy, mint and a bit of debian. I’ve shifted away from Ubuntu after the pro service ads in terminal, and the absolute fucking nightmare that is snap.

    I’ve done my time in “oh shit I fucked up Linux again” purgatory, and it’s my daily driver for work. Terminal is a place I’m generally ok with; I know enough to find my way around and fix things as needed.

    My issue is I’ve never really run dedicated graphics from a Linux distro, and because of the continual updates and proprietary elements I worry about keeping up. I don’t mind breaking things, it comes with the territory.

    That said, bazzite sounds interesting - especially the optimisation. The guides on the main page also alerted me to something I’d not considered - going to have to redo my filesystem on every drive. Thanks for the idea of an alt distro, will dig into this a bit more - if it’s built in fedora I might have a bit of a learning curve (never used it as a distro).

    communist,
    @communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

    Again, infinite free troubleshooting if you run into any issues, feel free to message me! I’ve given a bunch of people bazzite at this point, and can run you through just about anything.

    Make sure not to accidentally choose “steam gaming mode”, on the download since that’ll turn it into basically a steam-deck interface.

    DjMeas, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of April 6th

    I randomly decided to play a round of Tetris in Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 and ended up playing my best game ever of 715 lines with 54 minutes of play before losing. It was supposed to just be a quick 15 minute session but turned into something quite chaotic and fun!

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