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Lembot_0004, do games w Darkenstein 3D free on Steam

Doom and Wolf weren’t “fast”: while Doom had some fast moments, Wolf demanded a slow and methodical approach.

Quazatron,
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I was lazy and just copy/pasted the Steam page blurb.

morphballganon,

… that you wrote yourself, right?

Quazatron,
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Nah, I have nothing to do with this, only a happy gamer.

morphballganon,

Ah, maybe put the blurb in quotes next time, or else it sounds like you’re claiming credit

NuXCOM_90Percent,

Eh, Wolf3D (not to be confused with the OG top down stealth games that NOBODY played… and where the original levels fundamentally don’t exist anymore for fascinating reasons) was fast paced, for the time.

Yeah, it was very much slow room clearing early on. But from probably episode 3 on, you were generally run and gunning just because of resource limits and enemy health pools. Not to mention encounter design and more “hidden rooms” that open up when a fight kicks off.

And DOOM 2 was similarly fast for its time with encounter design specifically negating the effectiveness of the proto-cover shooter gameplay that DOOM1 actually was.

But yeah. This is very much more of a Rise of the Triad game. And ROTT was genuinely fast paced even for today (and can be REAL disorienting if you play any of the remakes).

But, I’ll take people comparing stuff to DOOM over calling it a “boomer shooter” any day of the week. Even if the vast majority of those are actually Quake-likes. Similar to how this gets the Wolf3D nod when it is very much an ROTT-like.

mojofrododojo,
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this is a rottlike for sure but marketing - the vast majority of gamers never played Rise, or Hexen, or Heretic.

it’s just a blurb.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

It is literally the “guy who has only seen boss baby” meme. The purpose of “game as genre” is to help people understand what they are buying. Souls games have gotten murky, but “a soulsborne” is a good way of explaining the basic gameplay loop and the ones that add their own thang to it (like Nioh) stand out. But we’ve also seen that fall apart with the massive pushback of “… Jedi Survivor isn’t really a souls game at all? Outside of the checkpoint system and i-frames?”.

Because, yes, saying that Call of Duty is “a DOOM game” would convey some of the mechanics of the game. But anyone who has played both will tell you they are VERY different games (even if there is a good argument that DOOM 2 and CoD are the same kind of cover shooter, funny enough)

And yeah, ROTT was not popular at all. But every few years we get an ROTT (mostly remakes of the same game from different studios) and people realize they were too old for that shit when they were 5. But for the people who DO love that gameplay? Not having to sift through every “doom game” or (ugh) “boomer shooter” would be nice. Same with how games like Strafe suffered from constantly being compared to DOOM when it was really kinda just a blatant reskin of quake 2.

Like I said, there are MUCH worse ways to characterize these games. But there is something to be said about discussing what the games actually ARE in the vein of so that others can decide if it is worth their time.

nuko147, do games w Why would I buy this?
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I played Tekken 3 in PSX when i was a kid. One CD had everything, many modes, many characters, ton of fun.

Ffw to 2 years ago, i think to play with a friend Tekken again, searching in Steam Tekken only to see that it has 24 DLCs, many of them that are fighters (game has 16 unlockable characters, and 14 more being paid DLC)…

lando55,

Is there volleyball?

nuko147,
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When i checked no (Tekken 7). But they released Tekken 8 last year, so maybe they added it (hopefully not in DLC).

OrgunDonor,
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Tekken 8 has Volley ball. Tekken 7 got Bowling but that was as a DLC.

OrgunDonor,
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I think that fighting games are in a much better place with the season passes(character DLC) than previously.

They are a much more long term game, with better balance patches and additions through mechanics to the game. Tekken 7 for example was supported for 7 years and you can jump in with just the base game. This also applies to other games like Street Fighter 5 and 6, Guilty Gear Strive and so on.

Where as if you go back to Street fighter 4 as an example, The support was limited and then they added more with a new game, Super Street Fighter 4, which then got replaced with Ultra Street Fighter 4, and you could not play someone who had Super if you only had Ultra which sucked for the online community.

I do think there is a lot of issues with where Fighting Games are going, but that is more an industry thing. Like battle passes, avatar clothes and other shit as micro transactions.

nuko147,
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Well, maybe you are right. But still it feels wrong putting fighters that exist since 1995+ as paid DLC content (or almost half of your fighters are paid locked). Also if you want the whole package it costs you almost double money. I don’t need support, i need a fine product from day one that has everything like BG3, E33, and many indie games. They just want to make games like a service and not products.

OrgunDonor,
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While you may not need support for the game. The games would not do as well as they do without it. They are predominantly an online multiplayer game. I am no the biggest Tekken fan, but I am a pretty big fan of Street Fighter, I have over 1000 hours on SF6. If it didnt have the good online multiplayer, and just had just had the offline and single player stuff, I would have something like 100 hours maybe and would have moved on to other games.

And that makes a big difference, to how much I am willing to buy into both characters and costumes, and also the next game.

Tekken 8 and SF6 still have good(for fighting games) single player stuff, but you are looking at a simple story and some arcade modes. SF6 has a bit more of a single player RPG almost for its single player, and I have managed to sink around 80 hours into that, they add more with each new character and I believe it is free.

And to go back to Tekken, Tekken 3 had 22 characters, While Tekken 7 had 36, which then increases to 51 if you add in the addition characters, Tekken 8 currently has ~40 with more being added. They are fine games, with all the content that you want(mostly) in the base game, but the biggest difference between Tekken 3 and Tekken 7 or 8 is it isnt being replaced in a couple years by a new full priced game, it is getting patches and support, additional mechanics and moves, new characters. And the online/competitive community can thrive.

nuko147,
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I don’t know. I prefer to unlock characters through playing the game, not with my wallet.

Also you can have 2 different games with 25 fighters each every 4 years, versus having 1 game with 50 fighters for 7 years with the same money as 2 games. I just prefer the 1st option.

Just support the game for 2-3 years and make a better one after. If you need money for the support put DLC with soundtracks and artwork.

ampersandrew, do games w The Outer Worlds 2 | Review Thread
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Really looking forward to this one. I loved that last game and really appreciated how much they did with a little, leading to a much-appreciated brevity that helped its pacing. ACG had some reservations with the opening area, but we’ll see how I feel about it when I get around to it.

Goretantath, do games w Ark Nova

That’s the name of a character from Maplestory.

kajib, do games w Ark Nova

Do I spy a Towerrex insert? I love those things!

Haven’t played Ark Nova yet, but it looks interesting. Not a huge fan of the realistic art, though.

catalyst, do games w Once Upon a Katamari | Review Thread
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If the multiplayer “KatamariBall” mode had local split-screen support this would be a no-brainer for me. What I’m reading online suggests this isn’t an option.

My kid and I played tons of local multiplayer in Katamari Reroll together, it was a blast.

People of a certain age like myself likely recall a time when games actually recognized that split screen was a thing. 😞

Redacted, do games w Recommend a let's play of Dark Souls PTDE please

Northernlions prepare to die edition run through is very solid

Sludge,
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NL’s banter is very palatable for the age range you described

BobbleBubble,
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If I want to hear banter, sure. But not for this.

whoisearth, do games w Why would I buy this?
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I feel like they could have called CoD Points something other than CP. 🤣

BoxOfFeet,
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I can see somebody inquiring about the amount someone has, and if they would be willing to share any. Boom. On a list.

buttnugget,

There are lots of valid abbreviations that CP uses other than child porn.

whoisearth,
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And it will never not be funny

knight_alva, do games w Recommend a let's play of Dark Souls PTDE please
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Brother bear, I will hop on twitch right tf now. I got you.

cyberpunk007, do games w Why would I buy this?

It’s for people with more money than brains.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Hey some of us are poor and this statement still describes us

TigerAce,

It’s why we’re poor

JigglySackles,

I wish overspending was why I was poor. At least I could fix that.

I_Has_A_Hat, do games w Why would I buy this?

Why would I buy this?

I can only think of one reason, because it’s the game your friends are playing.

You have two choices; buy the shitty game with the understanding that the game itself is not what matters but the time spent playing with your friends. Or, don’t buy the game and spend the next few weeks, or months, not playing with your friends and hope they grow bored of the game soon.

BilboBargains, do games w Why would I buy this?

Short answer: you wouldn’t buy this game, given your valid criticisms.

This type of extortionate pricing policy speaks to the general user base being nobs, die hard try hards and probably a toxic gaming environment. Having a barrier to entry in any activity prevents total idiots from entering. Consoles have made it easier for people who don’t understand how to operate a PC to play games but that necessarily means those games will be replete with obnoxious people. The advent of smartphones has done that for the internet.

Saledovil, do games w Why would I buy this?

Reviews are mixed: not a great start

More than not a great start: Only people who have bought the game are allowed to review it, so reviewers are already biased towards liking the game, because only somebody who thinks they would enjoy the game would spend money on it. It’s basically impossible to get a strong negative score by just being run of the mill awful. So “mixed” means that about 50% of people who though they would enjoy the game, didn’t, which is quite damning.

87Six,

When I said this on Reddit I got downvoted to hell and called a hater lol

I_Clean_Here, do games w Why would I buy this?

miniature penis

87Six,

We didn’t ask your size

BootLoop, do games w Preserving Play: How Eden Grew Into the Switch Emulator Everyone’s Talking About (my interview with the devs)

I have not heard of Eden. I was a big fan of Yuzu but this was the first I’ve heard of it.

RightHandOfIkaros,

I have been using it since 0.0.2 dropped a while back, but when I first looked into it I thought it was a straight up malware masquerading as a Switch emulator.

carotte,

it’s not helped by the fact that there’s a bajillion websites claiming to be Eden’s website…

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