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knokelmaat, do gaming w What are some games you like that most people hate and/or were panned by critics?

Silent Hill: The Short Message (53 on metacritic)

This game is almost universally hated, but I really quite enjoyed it and even respected what they were going for with the writing. My 8/10 review from when I played it: howlongtobeat.com/user/knokelmaat/reviews/…/1

I have no experience with other Silent Hill games, which might have made me less critical of this game. By no means a masterpiece, but an interesting experience for me.

toomanypancakes, do games w What are your favorite board games? I'm looking for games that are satisfying and lead to a sense of accomplishment or fulfillment or connection.
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Nemesis and Dead Cells are the board games doing that for me right now. Nemesis is semi cooperative, but there are full co-op objectives if you don’t wanna play versus. Dead Cells is completely co-op. Both have resulted in good stories and experiences that stay with you after the game is done in my friend group.

Coelacanth, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of January 26th
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I finished Pathfinder: Kingmaker after putting 250 or so hours into it and now I feel kind of empty. I still don’t think it’s a particularly great game, but after spending so much time on it you develop a sort of Stockholm syndrome. There are things about the game I enjoyed, but also endless frustrations. The ending chapters especially were an absolutely insane slog of numerous terrible Wild Hunt encounters that seem completely mindlessly thrown together to up the “challenge”. It’s a shame, really because there is a good game in there somewhere if you’d only scale back the bullshit. It could also do with some editing in general, I don’t think it justifies being so goddamn long.

Looking for the next thing to fill the void has been a bit of a challenge, I’ve been at it with Kingmaker for so long it’s been tough to switch focus suddenly. I started Weird West, which I bought on the last GOG sale and the beginning of it seemed alright, not sure if it will stick though. I also played through the first couple of levels of Desperados: Wanted Dead or Alive which is an absolute classic that I never played back in the day. The AI is pretty dumb, but immersion breaking stupidity aside it’s still super fun to approach it as a puzzle and work around and abuse the dumb AI.

Still, my brain might still be in the CRPG frame of mind after two months of Kingmaker so I also installed Arcanum with the Multiverse Edition modpack. Perhaps this is the time I finally play through it.

DdCno1,

Desperados: Wanted Dead or Alive

Have you heard of Robin Hood: The Legend of Sherwood from the same developers? A very similar game in many ways, with some of the most beautiful pre-rendered backgrounds I’ve ever seen in an isometric game. And yes, the AI can also be played around with at will, although it feels a bit more sophisticated compared to Desperados.

Coelacanth,
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I never heard of it back in the day, but I did see it suggested on GOG when I looked at Desperados. I might consider grabbing it the next time it’s really cheap if it’s really that good. Better than Desperados/Commandos you reckon?

some of the most beautiful pre-rendered backgrounds I’ve ever seen in an isometric game.

The old isometric games have really aged so gracefully. Desperados looks absolutely fantastic still imo and Baldur’s Gate 2 also has some fantastic isometric art (sprites not so much). I bet they’d look even better on a good CRT, too.

DdCno1,

I’ve never played a Commandos game for some reason, so I couldn’t tell, but I would say it’s about on par with Desperados 1 in terms of gameplay, if perhaps a bit less punishing. Cutscenes and voice acting (at least with the German version I played) are considerably worse however and I have no idea why.

I can confirm that these looked magnificent on a high quality CRT. This was a transitional period, when 3D graphics were not able to deliver the same amount of detail as the best 2D isometric graphics just yet. That said, everyone knew that the clock was ticking, since the advantages of fully 3D graphics were obvious and, unlike today, technological progress happened at breakneck speeds.

I was particularly fond of isometric RTS games back then. I spent the most amount of time with Age of Empires II (of course), but there were many others, like Cossacks (2001) from GSC Gameworld (who would later develop S.T.A.L.K.E.R.), which didn’t look as good as the inspiration, but boasted far larger maps and enormous numbers of units on screen. With American Conquest (2002), they refined the concept and overtook the original version of AoK in terms of visuals, with huge and detailed sprite work, as well as even more insane unit counts that pushed CPUs of the time to their limits. The gameplay was almost on par as well, with quite a bit more depth. It’s ridiculous just how much more sophisticated it is compared to Cossacks, despite there being only 1.5 years between the two. America (2000) is a more obscure title from this era, essentially a Wild West clone of Age of Empires. It’s quite solid, but unremarkable compared to the other games mentioned here.

Another Eastern European series I was fond of was Sudden Strike, set in WW2, as well as its sequel and countless spin-offs and expansions. There’s a model train charm to the detailed visuals, despite the not exactly charming setting. Fiendishly hard and realistic, but for all of its realism, it unfortunately decides to ignore the context of many battles, especially the war crimes that happened around them, which is troubling, since you can also play from the German perspective. Blitzkrieg (2005) is quite similar in terms of gameplay, although with a more sophisticated engine that blends 2D and 3D elements. However, when the groundbreaking Codename Panzers with its amazing fully 3D graphics and tight (if unrealistic) gameplay and mission design came out in 2004, all of these more technologically conservative WW2 RTS games instantly felt outdated, even though it came out right in the middle of them. They still had their value though, since Codename Panzers wasn’t trying to replace them in terms of gameplay, focusing on decision making instead of simulation.

Similarly, Desperados 2 (2006) made the first game feel a century old. From the same camera distance as the first game, it both looked far better than the original and had the advantage of dynamic lighting, more fluidity and a freely rotatable camera. Up close it was a bit blocky, but this was to be expected back then.

Many of the titles mentioned above can be rather troublesome on modern systems, so I highly recommend checking out their pages on the PCGamingWiki, which is a truly invaluable resource.

Coelacanth,
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Ahh, the nostalgia of hearing about those old titles again. Takes me back to the days of being a kid reading PC Gamer monthly with ravenous wonder and excitement. That period of '94 to '06-09 or so really was the golden age of PC gaming. I’ve been thinking about starting up a sub specifically about that era actually, retro gaming subs often tend to focus more about old consoles and arcade games.

Similarly, Desperados 2 (2006) made the first game feel a century old. From the same camera distance as the first game, it both looked far better than the original and had the advantage of dynamic lighting, more fluidity and a freely rotatable camera. Up close it was a bit blocky, but this was to be expected back then.

Interesting! I’ll take a look at the graphics, but I was otherwise set to skip it as it didn’t look like it was particularly well received.

I can confirm that these looked magnificent on a high quality CRT.

I’ve been on a bit of a retro game kick lately and have been wishing I had a really good one. It’s a shame they’re so damn bulky.

fargeol, do games w What are your favorite games for killing nazis?

Bionic Commando

It’s about an army of neo-nazis trying to resurrect Hitler

It’s a platformer but you can’t jump in it, only use a grappling hook

EvilBit,

Doesn’t it also end with you literally exploding Hitler’s face?

CyanideShotInjection, do games w What are your favorite board games? I'm looking for games that are satisfying and lead to a sense of accomplishment or fulfillment or connection.

I guess it is better to go for games that are cooperative and where everyone can contribute how they can without pressure. So I would suggest strategy games where everyone decides together what to do and all the players are united against the game, but in a way that it’s harder to put the blame on someone if they fail to do what’s expected of them (Ex : Hanabi). Here are some of my favourites that corresponds to this :

Pandemic

Horrified

Forbidden Desert

EvilBit,

If you like Horrified, you should try and track down the Ravensburger Wonder Woman game. Similar style but has an awesome mechanic to prevent coop quarterbacking.

Players strategize using a set of face up cards, but receive some face down cards afterward and have to program 3 actions using the whole set without communicating, adapting plans based on the newly revealed cards. Then each action plays out simultaneously for all players. It makes sense in action and is really quite elegant. I’m a big fan.

CyanideShotInjection,

Ouhhh that’s interesting. I love Horrified, it is one of my favourite game, but unfortunately I often end uo quaterbacking while I would prefer people sharing their thoughts. Will check this one out for sure, thanks for the suggestions !

EvilBit,

Ping me back with your thoughts if you find yourself a copy!

stevedice, do games w What are your favorite board games? I'm looking for games that are satisfying and lead to a sense of accomplishment or fulfillment or connection.

Arkham Horror 3rd Edition — NOT the LCG.

DebatableRaccoon, do gaming w What are some games you like that most people hate and/or were panned by critics?

I think the top one that comes to mind is Days Gone. I can’t help but feel like we’ve played completely different games when seeing reviews for it from the likes of IGN, for example.

drunkosaurus,

I love me some Days Gone! I still to this day have it installed and go back from time to time to whack a few hordes.

luxyr42,

Release vs now is the difference. Lots of huge improvements went in weeks and months after release that made a huge difference. You are also likely playing on a modern PC or on PS5 as opposed to the original base PS4.

Maestro,

I loved this game! I got it for free on PS plus some years ago

hal_5700X, do games w What are your favorite games for killing nazis?

BloodRayne Terminal Cut (Steam / GOG)

Jtskywalker, do games w What are your favorite board games? I'm looking for games that are satisfying and lead to a sense of accomplishment or fulfillment or connection.

I recently got Moonrakers, and it is 10/10 in my opinion. It can be competitive, and the rules certainly support backstabbing and sabotage, but it can be played very cooperatively. There is a winner, but you could even modify the rules to “try to get everyone to 10 prestige in x number of rounds” instead of first to 10 wins.

murmelade, do games w What are your favorite games for killing nazis?

Enlisted. It’s kinda terrible but I’m addicted.

omawarisan, do games w What are your favorite games for killing nazis?

Zombie Army Dead War 4

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_Army_4:_Dead_War

You don’t only get to see nazis that are already dead, you can tear them into pieces again and again… It’s really super fun

SPRUNT,

It’s not fun if the nazis can’t feel it.

omawarisan,

ooooooooooooooooooor maybe they do. and they’re dying twice.

Objection, do games w What are your favorite games for killing nazis?

Shadowrun: Dragonfall, it’s only for one mission but it’s a really good one.

kittenzrulz123, do games w What are your favorite games for killing nazis?

Brutal Wolfenstein is a great mod for GZDoom (and free with freedoom). Imagine the original wolfenstein but you get to stain the walls with the blood of nazis. The difficulty is significantly increased, weapons hit harder, and everything is better.

ALERT, do games w What are your favorite games for killing nazis?
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cracktorio. there are small, medium, and large swastipods.

AlexisFR, do games w What are your favorite games for killing nazis?
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Well Wolfenstein: The New Order is the other classic to do just that!

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