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thezeesystem, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of October 27th

Factorio space age. Can cracktorio got laced with space

over_clox, do trains w New World Train Electrification in Colour

Posted image is literally in grayscale (though the provided link is in color).

Sunshine,
@Sunshine@lemmy.ca avatar

Because the vast majority of the rail lines in the Americas are fossil fuel powered.

over_clox,

I checked your provided link, practically all the lines in the USA were orange, not black.

Sunshine,
@Sunshine@lemmy.ca avatar

That’s for existing rails you have to click the electrification option.

over_clox,

Lemmy preview doesn’t care about that, you literally shared the grayscale version and called it colored.

Sunshine,
@Sunshine@lemmy.ca avatar

Zoom in closer and you see the colour. Why are you so negative?

over_clox,

Not being negative, just telling you what I see. Also, you didn’t provide a color code, nor did you suggest phone users to zoom in.

Sunshine,
@Sunshine@lemmy.ca avatar

Yay, I get more criticisms.

That’s why I said colour in the title and phone users already know they must zoom in on map data.

over_clox,

You should declare that then, when practically the whole map is in grayscale. Some of us have piss poor vision, I’m at 20/500 vision myself, and my pupils are starting to solidify. Plus my glasses are tinted.

Also, why no actual color guide?

Vrtrx,

Here is the map again. And here is the legend with your color guide

over_clox,

Thank you. However, I still cannot see the colored areas without at least a few hints on where to look.

Vrtrx,

That’s because there aren’t a lot of electrified lines and America is pretty big. So in order to get all of America in the picture I had to zoom out but by doing that little details obviously get lost. Here is the link. This one should already be set to show electrification. With this you can zoom and look wherever you want

over_clox,

Thank you very kindly 👍

xep,

Yes, I think that is rather the point.

smokinliver,

Dont take that personal, I enjoyed your post and its really not your fault ppl cant even read map descriptions.

Thx for posting <3

over_clox,

Then you should clarify that people should check the link if they want to see the colored map.

tostiman,
@tostiman@sh.itjust.works avatar

No it’s not, zoom in on the north-east of the USA.

over_clox,

Thank you, very helpful 👍

abysmalpoptart,

I think the original poster posted this intentionally as sarcasm because there is so little color in the image. If you look at the original image and look at the USA North east near new york, you’ll see a few meager lines that are various colors (as well as a few slivers in south and central america, and what looks like a dot in los Angeles). This is showcasing just how little electrified rail exists in the americas.

It may not seem like it, but it is actually in color. I’m on mobile and am able to see it. If you’re not able to, it may be an issue with your app or method of viewing the post.

over_clox,

If you check the link they shared, it’s practically all orange, so they did not share the default view, nor a color legend to go along with it.

Jumuta,

yea ofc the map is orange, it’s showing the infrastructure type instead of electrification

yk how maps work right?

over_clox,

Not entirely, not when the map site just kicks me back to Lemmy when I attempt to change ‘Style’

abysmalpoptart,

That is correct, it isn’t the default view, it’s the electrification view, which OP inferred they were using (the title says electrification map). If you open the link, the orange is worldwide general rail infrastructure.

If you click the top right options button (the 3 line “hamburger” icon at the far top right, separate from the map layers), you’ll see an option for electrification. This is the map they shared.

The grayscale option actually only grayscales the territory, not the infrastructure. I hope this helps clarify the situation.

I do agree that a legend would have been helpful.

howrar, do games w Are any games using neural networks for better hard AI that doesn't cheat?

GT Sophy on Gran Turismo

FinalRemix,

M Rossi in the old Forza games.

Don’t need to be sMart when you’re aggressive and have powerful lawyers (impacts, even caused by the AI were charged against the player).

Essence_of_Meh, do games w Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas release 20 years ago today.
@Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world avatar

I currently doing a playthrough funnily enough, didn’t realize it was so close to an anniversary.

I’ve been spending more time exploring and doing side activities this time around, just driving around and taking photos. It ended up being quite a surprising experience. I was surprised with how easy the game is, how fast the story moves or how empty some parts of the world are (makes sense considering when it released). Taking the world in a more touristy way was an interesting change compared to how I experienced those games before. It’s also a way of playing I’ve been trying to move towards more and more recently (doing the same with Cyberpunk as well).

I still think it’s a great game but IV and, to lesser extent, Vice City are probably my favorites as far as mainline games are concerned. IV especially as it had a nice grounded approach to gameplay with weighty movement, interactions and driving, as well as the story - it sucks most people hated this as GTAV ended up being a rather mid experience for me.

Banichan,
@Banichan@dormi.zone avatar

IV should have been taken out back by the shed and had two put in its brain.

Essence_of_Meh,
@Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world avatar

Rockstar showed their thoughts on IV clearly in GTAV, I don’t think you have to worry about it anymore.

Lost_My_Mind,

IV is still, and will forever be the best GTA game. Everyone complains about the driving.

Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you’re supposed to handle a car like a helium filled balloon.

Banichan,
@Banichan@dormi.zone avatar

it’s complete shit get over it

relic_, do games w Are any games using neural networks for better hard AI that doesn't cheat?

The challenge is that AI for a video game (even one fixed game) is very problem specific and there’s no generalized approach/kit for developing AI for games. So while there’s research showing AI can play games, it’s involved lots of iteration and AI expertise. Thats obviously a large barrier for any video game and that doesn’t even touch the compute requirements.

There’s also the problem of making AI players fun. Too easy and they’re boring, too hard and they’re frustrating. Expert level AI can perform at expert level, which wouldn’t be fun for the average player. Striking the right difficulty balance isn’t easy or obvious.

count_dongulus, (edited )

I wouldn’t mind an AI using unorthodox strategies, but yeah that’s a good point that fine tuning it to be fun is a big challenge. Speaking of “non-player-like behavior”, I wonder if AI could be used to find multiplayer exploits sooner, though the problem there is you don’t really have much training data besides QA and playtesters before a full release.

relic_,

Historically, AI has found and used exploits. Before OpenAI was known for chatgpt, they did a lot of work in reinforcement learning (often deployed in game-like scenarios). One of the more mainstream training strategies (pioneered at OpenAI) played sonic and would exploit bugs in the game, for example.

The compute used for these strategies are pretty high though. Even crafting a diamond in Minecraft can require playing for hundreds of millions of steps, and even then, AI might not constantly reach their goal. Theres still interesting work in the space, but sadly LLMs have sucked up a lot of the R&D resources.

TachyonTele, do games w Are any games using neural networks for better hard AI that doesn't cheat?

The Rain World Animation Process.
While the title suggests only animation, the AI is tied directly into the animations so you gat a 2 for 1 deal in this video.

junderwood, do games w Screenshots of what I'm playing, day 1: progressing through Sonic 2

Great soundtrack on that one too!

Omegamanthethird, do games w Screenshots of what I'm playing, day 1: progressing through Sonic 2
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I have that one on the PS2. I don’t know that there is a better Sonic collection.

Auster,

I’m playing the PC version of SMCP, and the only difference I can notice, maybe due to the better hardware, is that the game seems to be a bit faster on PC than on PS2. And have yet to test any of the other collections Sega made for/with the Sonic games.

Boinkage, do games w Are any games using neural networks for better hard AI that doesn't cheat?

Have you read about Alphastar, super computer that can whoop the best StarCraft players in the world? youtu.be/ZsCnuDgDcPo?feature=shared

over_clox, do trains w Old World Train Electrification in Colour

Oh, well at least this post is in color…

Hugh_Jeggs,

For context, there was a post the same that said “New world train electrification in colour” with a map of the Americas that had only a tiny bit of colour

This bellend ☝️ went off on a rant about how the map wasn’t in colour, completely missing the entire point of the map lol

over_clox,

I checked their link, all our tracks in the USA were orange. No reference to a color guide in their post.

thisnameisnottolong,

Maybe you could make your own post the way you like it, instead of being hypercritical of someone else’s efforts.

over_clox,

Maybe if I understood their post in the first place. We got too many train derailments over here, they all scare the fuck out of me.

Hugh_Jeggs,

So uh get in muh fower tun truck and drive like a goddamn infant

Jumuta,

maps can have different layers lmao

over_clox,

Indeed. Might be nice if OP suggested to change what they call ‘Style’ to Electrification when viewing their source link.

Also might be nice if the map site didn’t just kick me back to Lemmy when I attempt to change it.

makingrain,
@makingrain@lemm.ee avatar

Some people eh

lambipapp, do trains w Old World Train Electrification in Colour

Idk for others, but Sweden does not seem to be complete. Inlandsbanan is at least partly electric nowdays

echodot, do games w Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas release 20 years ago today.

I’m still a bit mad about the trains in grand theft auto games. The early ones had trains you could actually properly interact with rather than them just sort of mindlessly going around the map being indestructible juggernauts.

I want to be able to derail and steal it.

There are indie games that support derailing trains, so it ain’t hard

Zahille7,

Couldn’t you blow up the subway in IV?

SomeGuy69, do trains w New World Train Electrification in Colour
@SomeGuy69@lemmy.world avatar

Damn USA that’s a shame. Zero fucks given of you guys.

Sunshine,
@Sunshine@lemmy.ca avatar

Canada: hold my beer!

SomeGuy69, (edited )
@SomeGuy69@lemmy.world avatar

For more mountainous or thick forest areas this is understandably. It required combustion engine trains, simply because of steep mountains, where it’s difficult to put down power lines or forests with a lot of trees who can easily destroy power lines. USA however is mostly flat. Looking at some like Austria or Swiss, if I see this correctly, they also are on a good way. Here we have a lot of hybrid but in general our train transport is a mess of mixed.

jerkface, do games w Are any games using neural networks for better hard AI that doesn't cheat?
@jerkface@lemmy.ca avatar

The advantage of a neural AI, in my mind, isn’t that it is better. It is that it is worse in a way that is fun.

Rentlar, do trains w New World Train Electrification in Colour

A tiny pink line will appear if you were to zoom in to Mason City, Iowa, USA.

Sunshine,
@Sunshine@lemmy.ca avatar

Nice find! I thought America only had it for New England and California.

BossDj,

Many of the big, blue cities will have some color if you zoom in. But only to commute within the area

Sunshine,
@Sunshine@lemmy.ca avatar

The Yucatan peninsula has an electric line too!

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