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ProtonEvoker, w Sep 14 - Nintendo Direct MegaThread - All Announcements, with Youtube Links and Release Dates!

Oh cool, Wargroove is getting a sequel. Love me some medieval fantasy Advance Wars.

Peekystar, w Sep 14 - Nintendo Direct MegaThread - All Announcements, with Youtube Links and Release Dates!
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Well then. T'was certainly a Direct; forgive me for the coming wall of text, and if said wall of text comes off as a bit negative at times.

Tragically, the additional Side Order information mostly shoots down my stupid conspiracy theory that it's a sequel to Paper Mario Colour Splash. Though then again, we still don't know why the "Spire of Order" is devoid of colour, so it still could be the work of the straw-wielding Shy Guys (no it can't). Idiocy aside, the fact it's a rougelike is really interesting to me; I honestly just expected standard, pre-set single player campaigns to be the only major offerings of Splatoon 3's DLC, akin to such campaigns of the main games and 2's DLC. I do generally like rougelikes and did enjoy the first two Splatoons, so reckon I'd probably like this as well, but I never bought Splatoon 3 under the pretence it didn't change enough from 2 to justify existing on the same system, and I'm not shelling out for the game and DLC just to play the seemingly cool rougelike side mode.

I was NOT expecting Trombone Champ, of all games, to make use of the right joy-con's IR camera - been pondering about how relatively underutilised it is lately, though it's probably not the easiest thing to actually find a use case for. I suppose that using it as a controller fits with the insanity of Trombone Champ, though, and multiplayer looks like it'll be absolutely stupid in the best way possible. My sister already owns the Steam version, though, so probably won't get this one, hilarious as the Switch-specific controls look.

Considering that Mansion 3 is perhaps one of the best looking games on the Switch, Luigi's Mansion 2 HD looks profoundly manky to me. Really just looks like an upscaled version of the 3DS version, perhaps with smoother models and possibly Luigi's model snagged from 3, but since its first reveal and furthermore now, it's always looked more than a little manky. At least the Scarescraper's still there, though; in spite of never beating the main story of the 3DS original, I played mountains of Scarescraper.

F-Zero 99 looks kinda cool, and given it's free, I'll absolutely try it out, even if my few attempts at the original F-Zero via Smash 4 Wii U's Masterpieces and Switch Online SNES went terribly. The worry, of course, is that it'll be as short-lived as other 99 games like Super Mario Bros. 35 and Pac-Man 99, which would be a real shame for a series as famously content-starved as F-Zero.

I mentioned the IR camera's underutilisation earlier, and WarioWare also decided to use it for some microgames. So that's pretty cool. Don't particularly like Wario's voice acting, though; probably a consequence of Martinet stepping back from the role. While what we've heard of Mario's Wonder voice sounds good to me, this Wario voice... less so. Also a bit worried about how I'll play this game at all; definitely looks like it's best played docked, but I almost always play with the Switch in Handheld Mode, and my console misbehaves when trying to dock it (i.e: it does acknowledge it's been docked, but doesn't display on the dock screen). Could probably make use of my old spare Switch or my brother's instead, though.

There are only two question mark slots on the character select screen in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, so where are they going to stick the two extra characters they've introduced? Are they going to crush them, or some existing characters, into alternate costume slots? That aside, I do fear that given that only 4 Tour nitro tracks (ignoring the RMX courses) aren't in the Booster Course Pass yet, all 4 will appear in this final wave. While there have been some good Tour-originals throughout the Pass, they've been distinctly hit-and-miss, and the city tracks definitely blend together a bit with 12 of them in the game.

The appearance of the characters in the Thousand Year Door remake remind me of Sticker Star's key art (https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/5/54/PMSS_Mario_Shiny_Album.png), probably only because of the different segments/layers having their own depth to them. Also, the talking sound effects are quite funny to me, likely due to the fact that some are audibly existing sound clips cut apart, and the original game used the same ones for almost every character. Didn't play the original, though, and having played other RPGs in the past, like the Mario & Luigi games, I feel confident in the assertion that they're better as spectator sports for me.

All the other announcements, I don't really care that much about, and would probably just poke fun at if I were to speak on them.

Sebastrion, w Sep 14 - Nintendo Direct MegaThread - All Announcements, with Youtube Links and Release Dates!

The Kongs are in Mario Kart again!

drcouzelis, w I couldn't believe my eyes
@drcouzelis@lemmy.zip avatar

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ume5pSIcKE

It’s from Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, if anyone else was as confused as I was. 😅

frank, w Nintendo of America on Twitter: Tune in on Sept. 14 at 7 a.m. PT for a Nintendo Direct livestream featuring roughly 40 minutes of information focused on Nintendo Switch games releasing this winter.

Super Mario RPG! That’s pretty hype to me.

Hoping by the end of this we get a shadow drop of Prime 2 remake and/or Prime 4 news

videlsports,
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@frank @picandocodigo

I'm looking forward to that one too.

Also
Eiuidoyn Chronicles
WarTales
Deca Police( Not Announced today)
Metal Slug Tactics (Not Announced today)
The new Atlus Tactics game

toasty_mcboost, w Nintendo of America on Twitter: Tune in on Sept. 14 at 7 a.m. PT for a Nintendo Direct livestream featuring roughly 40 minutes of information focused on Nintendo Switch games releasing this winter.

My moonshot wishlist includes -Metroid prime 2 -Legend of Zelda windwaker/twilight princess

Not expecting anything for the Switch 2 as Nintendo wouldn’t compromise holiday sales. Just just regular Switch releases this year and early next year stuff.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

Metroid Prime 2 shadow drop would be nice.

funnystuff97, w Nintendo of America on Twitter: Tune in on Sept. 14 at 7 a.m. PT for a Nintendo Direct livestream featuring roughly 40 minutes of information focused on Nintendo Switch games releasing this winter.

THE THOUSAND YEAR DOOR HD AAAAAAAAAA

Lehulk, w Nintendo of America on Twitter: Tune in on Sept. 14 at 7 a.m. PT for a Nintendo Direct livestream featuring roughly 40 minutes of information focused on Nintendo Switch games releasing this winter.

Oh my… I gasped when I saw another Code, and gasped even more when they announced the sequel was included in the remake. Best day ever, I had kept my old Wii to play this game with my daughter but I won’t even need that anymore !

Centillionaire, w Nintendo of America on Twitter: Tune in on Sept. 14 at 7 a.m. PT for a Nintendo Direct livestream featuring roughly 40 minutes of information focused on Nintendo Switch games releasing this winter.

Give me Switch 2, please.

Grangle1,

Probably not gonna happen this time, but I predict an announcement early next year for release within the year.

Centillionaire,

I’m guessing January announcement and releases in April. Makes me wonder what games will be day one release? Metroid, a 3D Super Mario, but surely not a Zelda game. Unless it’s a remake of a game.

Grangle1,

I think instead of a new 3D Mario right away we’ll get a port of Wonder, especially if it’s not backwards compatible. If that’s the case, that BotW demo they supposedly showed off at Gamescom may be a hint at a BotW port, though why they would port BotW instead of TotK at this point would be beyond me, especially when BotW was a launch title for their previous console. A different Zelda remake may be a good bet, like an HD/4K version of one of the N64 Zeldas. I still think the new F-Zero may be saved as a launch title for the new console to show off the new hardware. Either way, they need a solid, brand new entry in one of their big franchises or something new and original (a “killer app”) to promote immediate adoption, especially if they’re apparently releasing so many good games to sunset their previous console. They can’t make the same mistakes in the launch lineup that they did with consoles like the GameCube and Wii U.

rbits,

No way they don’t have a new 3d mario for a launch title. It’s been 6 years since Odyssey. And they definitely need something like that for the launch. They obviously won’t have a new Zelda so Mario is pretty much the only thing they could do. Also maybe Metroid Prime 4, but Metroid hasn’t really been a system seller. Also maybe a bit too soon for a new Animal Crossing.

Brodude,

For sure they don’t want to ruin xmas sales. It would be very dumb to announce a new hardware before the end of the year.

MargotRobbie, w Nintendo has filed a patent for ‘smart fluid’ joysticks, perhaps to eliminate drift | VGC
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Look up “potentiometers” if you want to understand the workings behind a thumbstick as well as why drift happens.

So, drift happens because the graphite resistance element inside the potentiometers wears out over time due to friction, but these potentiometers are absurdly cheap compared to the alternatives and one company, ALPS of Japan, has dominated this market (not just for the Switch but for everybody) for 20 years that they pretty much out-prices everybody else. So, now you know why companies still use these thumbsticks despite the fact that drift always develop eventually.

Hall Effect sensors are definitely better, but also tend to be heavier and bulkier, so we’ll see if this works out.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

Theoretically, these could be better than Hall effect ones.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a tradeoff of price/size for reliability, essentially. “Better” is subjective in this case.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

I understand, I was saying maybe the new ones will be objectively better. More reliable at cheaper price. Won’t know until we see them in use.

n3m37h,

The hall effect sensor on my 3d printer can measure 0.01mm. Does it really need to be “more accurate” than that?

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

Ahan. And the hall effect sensor on joysticks have same accuracy?

n3m37h,

I mean I could edit the firmware and make it go to 4 digits, and they use the same fkn tech so yes accuracy is just as high

n3m37h,

Have you not seen Guili kits replacements for the switch joycons?

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve seen them, they are an order of magnitude more expensive than the potentiometer based ones. Good for enthusiast hobbyist upgrades, but I doubt Nintendo is going to go for that considering the pricetag of the Hall Effect sticks.

n3m37h,

That’s just because there is only one company making them so… yeah we got expensive joystick replacements. If Nintendo just paid a bit more and went with the HE joysticks in the first place they wouldn’t be in this situation. Why do you think they’re patenting these joysticks with magnetic fluid in em? They don’t want this to happen again so they do what the Japanese do best, over engineer a simple solution.

I’m just gonna sit back and eat some popcorn

Mandarbmax,

As a big keyboard nerd it is cool to hear about Alps in another context. They used to dominate the mechanical keyboard market too back in the late 80s.Thanks for sharing!

Carighan, w Nintendo of America on Twitter: Tune in on Sept. 14 at 7 a.m. PT for a Nintendo Direct livestream featuring roughly 40 minutes of information focused on Nintendo Switch games releasing this winter.
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder, if the rumors about the Switch 2 are actually true - which so far I don’t think they are simply because it’s a Boy Who Cried Wolf thing by now - then at some point they ought to start firing up marketing for it. Remains to be seen whether anything official pops up in this, because by you’d think it would.

picandocodigo,
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The good sign -to me- is if they’re still hyping up major Switch games so late in the game, it probably means whatever comes next will be backwards compatible.

Kiosade,

I mean i’m sure it’s reasonably far into the development by now. The only questions are, is it going to be backwards compatible with the Switch, and is it coming out next year?

bobdowl,
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They would never hurt their Christmas sales by announcing anything officially until the beginning of next year.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

I was thinking they could announced it and say it would be fully backward compatible, so it won’t effect their games sales, but it would still effect their hardware sales, so I guess you are right.

NewNewAccount,

They could drop the price of the Switch to $200 and grab up the people that have been on the fence due to price.

Jabbawacky, (edited ) w Nintendo of America on Twitter: Tune in on Sept. 14 at 7 a.m. PT for a Nintendo Direct livestream featuring roughly 40 minutes of information focused on Nintendo Switch games releasing this winter.

F Zero X remake please. original was already 60fps, so upgraded graphics and the original soundtrack in full stereo and full 30 player online. Sounds good to me.

Cicraft, w Nintendo has filed a patent for ‘smart fluid’ joysticks, perhaps to eliminate drift | VGC

Jesus Christ just use the same sticks as everyone else does

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know about Xbox, but drift issue is pretty common in PS5 controller too, and I recall reading that all companies uses sticks from same manufacturer.

Everyone online sings praises of ‘Hall-effect’ sticks, but no one (Sony / MS / Nintendo) is currently using them, probably because of higher cost.

If this works, this will probably solve the issue for Nintendo at least.

vardogor,
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i bought my pack of 10 hall effect sensors for like a couple bucks. i know things scale but my bet would be on planned obsolescence

Callie,
@Callie@pawb.social avatar

It definitely happens with Xbox Series controllers too. Bought a brand new Series controller and a rechargeable pack only for it to get unbearable drift within 5 months

MudMan,
@MudMan@kbin.social avatar

I've had far more stick issues on PS5 than Switch, but that's probably just luck of the draw.

For the record, the patent isn't about removing drift at all, from what I can discern, it's about adjustable resistance sticks.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

Well, it’s for new type of sticks, and the design seems to be good for removing drift too.

Virkkunen,
@Virkkunen@kbin.social avatar

But they are, and they all have drift problems.

The quick, easy and convenient solution is moving to Hall effect sticks.

JonDorfman,

Using the larger, potentially more durable, joysticks would mean a larger potentially less portable Switch. Given that portability is the core feature of the Switch I can understand Nintendo’s reluctance to implement them. Especially when other companies are experiencing similar issues with their sticks. In my opinion a novel approach is the way to go here. Hall effect is nice, but it is costly and could potentially present some legal challenges at the moment.

Still,
@Still@programming.dev avatar

the problem with the current switch is that the joycona are unusablely small

Increasing the size neard the size of the steam deck really won’t decrease the portivility as your gonna carry a power adapter and a case with it anyways

JonDorfman,

I find that the JoyCons work fine for most games, granted I have small hands. As for power adapters and carrying cases, I don’t carry an adapter and the case I use is very slim. Just enough to protect from drops really.

nonprofitparrot,

I use both frequently, and the size of the switch is a big feature for me. I carry a low profile case and no power adapter. Increasing the size would be a big mistake in my opinion- it would just be a worse steam deck without some really killer new features. In my opinion they should just offer larger joycons for people who want them!

hook,
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@JonDorfman, what legal challenges?

@Cicraft

JonDorfman,

A company already makes hall effect joysticks that are JoyCon sized and they claim to hold a patent for them. I haven’t taken the time to verify, but even if they don’t have a leg to stand on they could still take Nintendo to court.

hook,
@hook@toot.si avatar

@JonDorfman I wonder how they would do that while also not violating patents on JoyCons that I suppose Nintendo has.

I have not checked, but would be surprised if they do not.

JonDorfman,

Nintendo doesn’t hold a patent on the JoyCon joysticks. As far as I am aware they are an off the shelf component.

hook,
@hook@toot.si avatar

@JonDorfman, I did a quick online search for Nintendo’s JoyCon patents, and interestingly found a US one from 2023 (2020 in Japan) about what looks Hall effect analogue sticks:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20230280850A1/

JonDorfman,

That patent is what I was referring to when I mentioned a novel approach.

hook,
@hook@toot.si avatar

@JonDorfman, right, but Hall effect analogue sticks themselves have existed for a long time, so that technology in general (except any novel addition) is (most likely) not patented anymore.

hyperhopper,

To be fair I hope anybody and everybody that has a leg to stand on in court does so and wastes their time and money there.

Nintendo consistently uses it’s legal might in anyi-consumet ways to harm its biggest fans. As somebody that loves Nintendo games, fuck Nintendo.

QuarterSwede,
@QuarterSwede@lemmy.world avatar

As Mudman stated, the article is really about Nintendo patenting analog L3 and R3 so it’s pressure sensitive. No one is making those yet.

electrogamerman, w What are you playing this weekend? 2023-09-09

Pokemon dlc!

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

Oh yeah, Scarlet & Violet DLC is coming out. Or is it already out?

How are you liking it so far?

electrogamerman,

It went out like 8 hours ago. It came out during midnight in Germany, and I came to work, so I haven’t played it yet. I heard is quite good

OmegaMouse, w What are you playing this weekend? 2023-09-09
@OmegaMouse@feddit.uk avatar

I’m currently away from home and I’ve downloaded Resident Evil 2 (remake) onto my Steam Deck. I’m an hour or so in loving it so far! I’ve only ever played RE4 (the original version) before and it feels quite different - less incentive to shoot enemies.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

I have played most of the originals, but haven’t played any of the remake yet. I have heard great things about the remakes though, so may go through all of them sometime.

Do share you opinions once you have finished the game.

OmegaMouse,
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So I finished Leon’s ‘half’ of the story yesterday. It was great! Loved all the puzzles (which had a classic videogame feel to them) as well as the various settings. It’s a beautiful looking game and the gunplay is very satisfying.

I was a bit disappointed to learn that playing as Claire is just the same thing again, although it does have a few different story beats. I don’t mind too much though as it seems like a fun game to play through multiple times.

This seems like a great way to remake an old game. Reminds me of FF7 remake in some respects.

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