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Kierunkowy74, w So blimey - what happened there?
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This time, another official /kbin server, in Polish (karab.in) was working during all the kbin.social's sleep.

I will repost my comment from https://kbin.social/m/fediverse@lemmy.world/t/838165/What-s-going-on-with-kbin-social

This time is probably unrelated to @ernest's supposed inactivity. Actually, his another /kbin server, https://karab.in has been brought back on 15 of February.

Why not kbin.social? Well, this server is co-administered by FTdL (Technology for People Foundation) (https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/177112).

Entire FTdL infrastructure was down from 16 o'clock in Cracow to this morning.

HeartyBeast,
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Thank you. That makes sense

HarkMahlberg,
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Oh wow, what a day for the fediverse huh? Kbin's infrastructure went down, Lemmy.ml's certs expired (or so Firefox told me), and a ton of Misskey servers got hacked and started botspamming everyone.

_haha_oh_wow_, w I Still Like Kbin.social
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I like Kbin too. I also like Lemmy. They are both good if you ask me.

FfaerieOxide,
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I also like Lemmy.

Lemmy hasn't grabbed me yet like kbin has. Is mastodon as integrated with lemmy as it is with kbin?

Apparently you can't say fag on lemmy.world which could cause some problems with some of the magazines I mod here. Also I'm left with negative feelings from lemmy.world not federating images and posts I reply to .world threads from .social.

-mygrad is right out because I do not believe making common cause with the allies of people who want my friends dead is "...of a progressive character".

.ml has similar issues to the above two

blajah.zone I have no issue with but I just don't want that to be my home instance. I actually have been trying to break their monopoly on 196 for a while now

Beehaw is fine but they're always talking about defederating so that basket seems unfit to slip my eggs into.

exploding heads is a shit instance for fascists

sh.itjust.works—and this is no slight toward or reflection on present company—seems like that place for people who complain about "censorship" and "echo chambers" when they get asked to leave a dunkin doughnuts for sig heiling on the counter while making a hitler 'stache out of a cruller. Again not you, I am sure you are lovely, but when someone complains they can't be transphobic and their account is more than 3 weeks old, odds are good "@sh.itjust.works" is trailing their handle.

originalucifer, w I Still Like Kbin.social
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i donate financially to kbin, and i dont use it other than as a remote, federating platform. the outage means nothing to me personally.

still would be nice to get a little administrative communication on a system designed for.. ya know, communication.

BiggestBulb, w Request for an off-site status communication method and more admins to help run the site & communicate with users
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Honestly, I really fear for both kbin and mbin. I was really hoping for more substantial changes in both by this time, but honestly it's just staying largely the same.

Essence_of_Meh, w Any way to export and import subscriptions?

There's one tool for Lemmy but I never found anything similar for kBin unfortunately. Automatic account migration is also stuck as a planned feature for Mbin at the moment.

I'm afraid you'll have to do it by hand.

Suspiciousbrowsing, w So blimey - what happened there?

I ended up finding another fork Mbin, but I'll be fucked if I know how to sign up to it.

originalucifer,
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Suspiciousbrowsing,

Oh heck, thanks. Turns out I somehow landed on someone's dev instance and they had registration disabled

BarbecueCowboy, w So… what's going on?

I think a lot of us have had the same thoughts looking around kbin.

We all appreciate the work Ernest has done, but we really need someone to dedicate some time to picking out a team to help him, but it seems like that's not happening for whatever reason. I know there's a few other people in the codeberg, but I believe there was a falling out there. What we really need in addition to that though is just generic admins.

ProdigalFrog,
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Ernest said in a previous post with some Mbin drama that he's very, very slow to trust people, and that's why he's been slow to give anyone else admin access to the project.

That may have been okay when only a few hundred people were using Kbin, but the project far outgrew what a single person can manage, especially since he's not only the main developer of the backend and frontend of Kbin, but also the only admin, moderator of multiple communities, AND decided to tackle making a Mobile Kbin app since that other one became vaporware. That is WAY too much for a single person to handle and still have any sort of existence offline.

This has been brought to his attention, but as you mentioned, nothing changes, and he continues the cycle of putting incredible load on himself, and then burning out. It's not sustainable, and unfortunately his lack of trust in others, and an unhealthy level of self-reliance, will ultimately keep Kbin from thriving.

bridge_too_close, w So… what's going on?
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I understand the desire to keep kbin a solo project in order to maintain control over it, but if this is going to see any success in the long term, then there needs to be a team. I like kbin over lemmy for the interface and mocroblog integration, but the spam and lack of updates are taking its toll. At the very least, there needs to be another admin or two to look after things whenever Ernest isn't around.

Pat, w So… what's going on?

At this point, the best thing would just to move to an instance using mbin, a fork created by many devs who contributed to and wanted to improve kbin but were upset at lack of progress. With Ernest's many absences all the improvements weren't being merged. Many instances using the name kbin, such as the one I'm on, have switched to mbin long ago and have many of the features and fixes that have been requested and long waited for.

rimu, w Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers
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It's hard to imagine Kbin coming back from being abandoned by it's only developer, admin and moderator. Twice.

Is it time to move on?

Other Kbin instances - https://fedidb.org/software/kbinMbin instances - https://fedidb.org/software/mbin

Or try https://piefed.social for something completely different.

Pamasich,

Ernest hasn't abandoned kbin this time, he did post an update last week.

Today, I'm going for a minor procedure at the hospital, and I won't be available for the next 2-4 days. When I return, I'll push all the corrections and fixes I've been working on and present plans for the near future.

Him not being back yet probably means the hospital procedure didn't go as smoothly as expected, but he's not gone on purpose.

rimu,
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The CSAM posts from 4 days ago are still on kbin.social. They have been reported, but no action taken.

Drusas,

That's partly a fault of not enough kbin users stepping up to moderate magazines.

ProdigalFrog,
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It seems like having more admins here would be greatly beneficial in combatting that problem. Is Ernest open to having additional admins? AFAIK he is the only one, and he's cleary biting off more than he can chew.

Drusas,

I'm talking more about admins of specific magazines. I don't know where Ernest stands on instance admins.

SharkAttak,
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So you went and thought: "Let's take this chance to make an unverified claim and advertise this other instances in a single post!"
but it was a shitty move, let me tell you.

rimu,
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Pamasich,

Ernest has said in the update I mentioned in my other comment that

When I return, I'll push all the corrections and fixes I've been working on

This means he has made local commits over those 2 months that simply haven't been pushed yet.

Also, there is in fact a commit made 4 days ago. Though not from ernest.

SharkAttak,
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Call me petty but I'm gonna block this piefed thing..

Gordon_Freeman, w Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers
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yeah, I spend more time downvoting a blocking spammers than anything else

HeartyBeast,
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I spend a lot of time downvoting and reporting and I've volunteered to co-mod the worst offending subs that I'm subnscribed to. It's not clear that any of this has any effect.

At this point, it feels like a bit of a lost cause.

Drusas,

What we really need is more people stepping up to moderate.

rhythmisaprancer,
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Are there some key magazines that need it? I will step up, if only to play whack a mole as I understand it.

Drusas,

I'm honestly not sure. I haven't been seeing too much of these problem accounts myself. I moderate m/politics and it hasn't been a problem for us yet. I would suggest making a note of which magazines you are seeing this behavior on, and if it's something that is up your alley, reach out to Ernest to ask for moderation privileges. He's very happy to give them to others who are dedicated.

rhythmisaprancer,
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Ya I've perused the list, but there doesn't seem to be overlap. Maybe I should just grab one, any one, to get the hang of it.

ProdigalFrog,
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https://kbin.social/m/opensource is plastered with spam, that would be a good one to moderate.

rhythmisaprancer,
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I'm not sure how to request that one since it has an active owner. I did request another that was available.

HeartyBeast,
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I’ve volunteered for several over the last month. Never heard a thing. -in particular science, fediverse, tech where large amounts of spam seem to occur and which seem abandoned

rhythmisaprancer,
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We could at least offload some work from Ernest

QualifiedKitten, w Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers

Are you guys browsing by new? Do you moderate active communities? I'm just curious to understand why we seem to have such different experiences since I only encounter spam once or twice per week, but I definitely spend way too many hours scrolling.

HeartyBeast,
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Yes, I quite often browse by new

FarraigePlaisteach, w Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers

I spend more time blocking spammers than anything else. I’m sure it will improve once this issue gets more attention, but for now I think I’ll take a break from this site.

EmptyRadar, w Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers

I agree that this may be the only real solution for the time being. I have personally been trying to submit good content to my favorite magazines to combat some of the spam, but there is a real influx of it and it's making it difficult to use the site.

ThatOneKirbyMain2568, w Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers
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This might be a good idea, at least until Ernest gets back. To my knowledge, he's the only instance admin, so as long as he's inactive, the spammers won't get dealt with (especially on magazines he moderates, like /m/tech).

Ideally, there could be another admin or two to deal with this stuff when he's not available, but ¯_(ツ)_/¯.

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