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ArchmageAzor, w Modder Behind Oblivion Fan Remake Vows to See It Through Whether Bethesda Releases a Remaster or Not
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

Bethesdas remaster would probably be nothing more than a version with updated graphics and lighting and support for modern software. This guy is rebuilding the game from scratch in a modern engine.

LittlePrimate,
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in a modern engine.

Well, at least more modern than oblivion, Skyrim’s is 12 years old…

vaultdweller013,

Fun fact there were olny six years between Oblivion and Skyrims release. Thats right skyrim has been out longer than the release time between oblivion and skyrim.

AmbientChaos, (edited )

You can add Morrowind to that timeline too, which came out in 2002, so 9 years between Morrowind and Skyrim. Crazy…

Summzashi,

Which is in itself a slightly updated version of Oblivions gamebryo, which was conceived in the 90s. Calling it a modern engine is extremely generous if not completely wrong.

cuacamole,

Which happens with most engines. UE5 is an update version of UE4 and so on.

Virkkunen,
@Virkkunen@kbin.social avatar

These people are rebuilding the game from "scratch" in Skyrim's Creation Engine version, but it's still nothing more than a version with updated graphics and lightning. Bethesda's probably going to be using FO4 or Starfield's CE version, which will have the same result albeit shinier.

Raab,

skyblivion.com/about/

It’s much more than a lighting and graphics overhaul.

Fades,

updated graphics and lighting and support for modern software

even that would be expecting too much, I’ll be shocked if that “graphics update” is anything more than only slightly better texture replacements

GreenMario,

Oblivion already is 4K/60fps on XSX thanks to FPSBoost and resolution enhanced. They’re gonna have to justify if just a bit more than that.

Fix potato faces and leveling system would be a good start. Add real beards for Nords.

synceDD, (edited ) w Modder Behind Oblivion Fan Remake Vows to See It Through Whether Bethesda Releases a Remaster or Not
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Since 2012 💀💀💀 bros are slower than scrolls 6 LMFAO

edit what does a fucking oblivion mod website with only some screenshots request cookies for

bob_lemon,

They’re also just a total of 77 people doing this in their spare time instead of a team of at least 300 full time devs.

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Skyrim team was roughly 100, were you too lazy to google it and replied to me with a random number or what 💀💀💀💀

failor, (edited )

And Skyrim took 6 years to make for a 100 people working a full time job?

How long did you expect 77 people working in their spare time to take? 2 months?

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Skyrim = skyrim mod 💀💀💀💀

520,

And Oblivion was a big fucking game, and it takes a lot of work to get it into Skyrim's engine and modifying it so that it looks like it fits.

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Do you understand how long that is 💀💀💀💀 Imagine starting a mario kart mod for the gba when it came out and mario kart 8 for the switch is ready before it, this is how long it took 💀💀💀💀

520, (edited )

I get that, but the Oblivion and Skyrim engines are not compatible with one another. Meaning that every single little event in Oblivion has to be manually reimplemented in Skyrim's engine.

When you're talking about a game the size of Oblivion, that's a big fucking task. And they're relying on volunteers to get this done.

Alto,
@Alto@kbin.social avatar

Obvious rage bait is obvious. Don't feed the trolls

FireTower,
@FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

Developing a full length game in Skyrim’s engine = developing a full length game in Skyrim’s engine

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

They are working with a unpaid team of volunteers vs a billion dollar company owned by a trillion dollar company with 100’s of employee’s.

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Skyrim team was roughly 100 people idk why you include microsoft numbers from 2023 for, big numbers will make me look smart or what? 💀💀💀💀

llii,

💀💀💀💀💀

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Skyblivion discord found me💀💀💀💀

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

100 full time dedicated engineers and artists which probably the majority of them are veterans vs a mod teams team of part time students and professionals. I don’t know do the skull make you look more edgey?

PatrickYaa,

You should read this post by Arnold Schwarzenegger. I think it applies to you very well.

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not sure how an adulterous bodybuilder can contribute to a post about skyrim mods, that link stays blue

samwise, (edited )
@samwise@kbin.social avatar

Thanks for proving his point! Ignorant troll gonna stay ignorant. Job done here

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Sure, enjoy the wisdom of an adulterer

Globulart,

I certainly did, he made a very eloquent point.

A great husband he isn’t, but why should that mean you assume everything he says is bs?

Very closed minded way to live… It’s very possible to agree with someone on one point and still think they’re a pos when it comes to other points.

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll keep it in mind if I stumble upon his skyrim mod opinions

Globulart, (edited )

Yes I thought you might say something along those lines, have you ever heard of an analogy…?

I know you think you’re making a relevant point, but really you just look like a 10 year old who struggles putting 2 and 2 together.

This has nothing to do with skyrim modding, and everything to do with your perception of a group of people who don’t deserve your hate.

Let me know when you turn 11 and we can try again :) x

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Guy who replies to me just to insult me calls me 11 year old, the irony💀💀💀💀 and there was no analogy here, I was asked to read something " relevant " from Arnold, you have the english skills of an 11 year old as well, bro was projecting all along 💀💀💀💀

Globulart,

No insults, just a guess :) x

The insult was your OP, and Arnold does a good job of illustrating why it makes you a cunt (there’s the insult!)

Do you understand irony? Irony is including 8 emojis in a post defending yourself from being called a 10 year old.

Someone insulting you in a response which (by your definition) was only posted to insult you is just logical. Where’s the irony?

The analogy is the post mate, but how would you know if it stayed blue…?

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

“Adult” triggered by literal emojis 💀💀💀💀 “youre 11 if youre using emojis” 💀💀💀💀 5th period starting soon buddy, time for your literature class, today youre learning about analogies, next week, irony💀💀💀💀

Globulart,

Ahhhh it’s weirdly beautiful mate. This whole exchange is like one big illustration on irony and (ironically) you end your point by illustrating just how little you understood my posts.

It really is satisfying. But if you want to teach me something and show me why it would be ironic to insult you in a post which was designed specifically to insult you then I’m all ears :) x

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Paralympians asked to not compete vs modders asked to be faster there is no analogy here 💀💀💀💀 Or did you reduce both examples to getting criticized so you think it counts as analogy? truly 11 year old mind 💀💀💀💀

Globulart,

The analogy is that someone insulting people trying their hardest while doing nothing of importance themselves are worse than the supposed injustice they point out in the first place.

In this scenario, the volunteer modders are the paralympians, and you’re the douchebag criticising them for contributing something to the world despite having nothing productive to show themself.

Hope I helped :) x

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

“Their hardest” literally a hobby most likely not their hardest and it is a job for the paralympians, so not an analogy on both fronts, “nothing of importance” having a job to buy food and stay alive is more important than a videogame mod. Fake everything and you get an analogy, congrats.

Globulart,

Exactly, literally a hobby and not a job, people contributing time they absolutely don’t need to in order to create something for others to enjoy.

And you’re criticising them because they’re taking too long. Taking too long with their unpaid voluntary work for a product lots of people will enjoy.

Seeing it yet? :) x

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Nooo its a hobby u cant type LMAO or I’ll compare you to disrespecting paralympians 💀💀💀💀 I literally predicted u would reduce both events to criticism, now I bothered to explain it too

Seeing it yet? :) x

Globulart,

It’s not simple criticism though is it mate? It’s criticising people who are contributing to the world while offering nothing yourself. That’s the whole point which has already been pretty clearly explained.

If we take it back to your original comment you’re literally criticising the amount of free work someone chooses to do. I’d hoped you might see the analogy but it seems like we’re past that point so let’s call it a day.

Good luck though mate, maybe think about it a bit more when you don’t feel like it’s a battle with an anonymous Internet person and can look more objectively at the points made :) x

FireTower,
@FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

Irony is telling someone to attend literature class while lacking reading comprehension.

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Any examples of that or are you also 11 year old who replies just to insult? Another irony for you since you didnt give any examples and behave like the other guy

Zellith,

"Any examples of that or are you also 11 year old who replies just to insult?"

"5th period starting soon buddy, time for your literature class, today youre learning about analogies, next week, irony💀💀💀💀"

Hmmmm

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Ah dont call someone out when they fail to use their own terms properly while they have the audacity to call you 11 first, or youre like them. Good logic.

FireTower,
@FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

He said you were like a 10 year old (his analogy towards your maturity) and requested that you inform him once you turn 11.

synceDD,
@synceDD@lemmy.world avatar

Yes replying someone just to call them immature is an insult, youre almost there buddy I see youre trying to learn manners as well

moist_towelettes, (edited )

The Black Mesa HL remake took 16 years to release (2004-2020).

520,

And even then, did not release in a completed state until later (some of the alien world levels were missing)

ThunderingJerboa,
@ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social avatar

I mean to be fair to them, they actually made Xen good instead of a chore.

520,

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, it was everything a faithful remake should be!

redcalcium,

You know, it’s unhealthy to be so negative all the time. Not saying you should only post positive comments all the time, just keep it in check so Lemmy aren’t full of negative vibe.

noobdoomguy8658, w Steam Shmup Fest: Official Trailer

That’s very welcome!

bob_lemon, w Embracer says its ‘crazy’ outlay on platform fees exceeds its spend on game development

Wait… that math does not possibly check out. In the worst case scenario (Steam), they pay 30% of the revenue from the game in platform fees. If they spend less than that for settlement, simple math tells us that there is at least 41% of the revenue basically unaccounted for.

There’s a bit of overhead in every company, like HR, IT and facilities, so maybe these don’t count for “development cost” (which makes no sense tbh, that’s not how project budgets work). Marketing can eat a ton of money, too, but the numbers still seem bafflingly high.

Opafi,

What? It just means that they spend less than 30% on development. That doesn’t sound too far off, as a lot of the money probably goes to marketing, management, administration or (gasp) profits.

sugar_in_your_tea,

And marketing is a huge part of stupid MTX games, you gotta attract the suckers to your game after all.

Blxter,
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Unless I live under a rock I don’t see the point of spending a lot on marketing ads for games. Two big examples of games that sold extremely well that I never saw an ad for were elden ring and boulders gate three. If you just make a good game word of mouth will tell how good the game is not an ad on TV.

tiramichu, (edited )

It seems like it can make sense. Platform fees aren’t an initial outlay, they’re effectively a cut of profits based on sales.

For the sake of argument using fake numbers, if a studio spends $1m making a game, and then they put it on Steam and it does $10m in sales, then Steam’s cut of that at 30% will be $3m

So, spending more on store fees than development seems possible - especially if your game is selling really well

conciselyverbose,

The percent isn't fixed at 30%, though. Big sellers lower the cut, and Steam takes literally zero from keys they sell elsewhere.

tiramichu,

It’s 30% up to $1m I believe but sure, there are complications. It’s just example numbers to illustrate the point.

ganoo_slash_linux, w Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney Trilogy releases in January
@ganoo_slash_linux@lemmy.world avatar

Takumi Shu… will you write another game? I’m begging. Ace Attorney 7. DGS3. Ghost Trick 2. New IP? Anything, I want it so bad.

I am partial to Apollo Justice, the first one on DS. I personally loved the storytelling and this ominous aura of mystery that begins in Case 1 and looms over the entire game. Also Trucy. It was also the first time I remember that I, as a kid, was challenged to think about why we believe certain things to be true. And it has a great soundtrack and art / character designs which on their own are enough for me to love a game to death.

chepox, w Dragon's Dogma 2 New Gameplay Footage Showcases Starting Vocations, Pawn System and More

I played the first one pretty much at launch and I finished and liked it a lot but the backtracking killed it for me. It was just way too much walking around ignoring mobs because I had fought them so many times every time I walked back to town. I know they fixed this somehow on later patches. Hope they bring along all the QOL updates the first one got.

Godric, w Bloodlines 2’s new developers don't want it to fight like Dishonored, and are avoiding keycard quests

Good, I think. I hope there will still be Stealth options like in dishonored, but I want to be able to go in and go ham if I want to.

InEnduringGrowStrong, w Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 release notes
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

For some reason the link doesn’t work for me.
Here’s a snapshot from archive.org if anyone else needs it:
web.archive.org/web/20230921150926/…/update-2-0

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

Turns out I had blocked ALL of Akamai’s (edgesuite.net) altogether when I meant to block only LG’s smart TV ads served through Akamai.
Oops

BallShapedMan, w Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 release notes
@BallShapedMan@lemmy.world avatar

Once I’m done with Starfield I’m jumping back into this!

halfmanhalfalligator,

Starfield will let me go when it’s done with me, I have no say in this.

BallShapedMan,
@BallShapedMan@lemmy.world avatar

Feels like an “I’m sorry John” riff could be made out of this.

flux, w CD Projekt recommends starting a new game when Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 drops: 'starting fresh will enhance your overall gameplay experience'
@flux@lemmy.world avatar

I’m actually a fan of the game because I can see the vision they had. I think people are more harsh because they see how great it, “could have been”. But to this day so many weird bugs, qc issues that are not even graphics related. Basic qc like overlapping dialogue, mission problems, things disappearing, etc. I’m rooting for the team to keep up improvements. But for them to tell me I’d have a better time starting over is a little annoying. If this is so much better what was I playing before ? Sure, more money, feedback and most of all time is going to make a better game.But they know there are things they could have done better if they are suggesting starting over.

GunValkyrie,

They are suggesting you start over so you can enjoy the rebalance of the game with the updates. They aren’t saying you have to, just that you’ll get the most out of it if you do.

oo1, w Microsoft’s Phil Spencer says acquiring Nintendo would be ‘a career moment’

How dumb is a person to define a "career moment" as buying something.

Aren't careers are suppoed to be about creating things that other people want to buy.

Rouxibeau,

That’s his goal. His plan is to bolster xbox sales with Nintendo IPs.

ikapoz,

Not very. Negotiating and executing a deal of that size and complexity cross cutting major national, cultural, and business universes would be extremely difficult

NathanielThomas, w CD Projekt recommends starting a new game when Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 drops: 'starting fresh will enhance your overall gameplay experience'

Already got all the achievements for this game so unlikely I’ll play it but good that they’re still updating

7112, w Dragon's Dogma 2 New Gameplay Footage Showcases Starting Vocations, Pawn System and More

Wow. Everything about this game looks like it is worth the wait. I hope there are even more classes.

ParkedInReverse, w Ubisoft Announces Tom Clancy's The Division 3, Appoints New Series Producer

Please be as good as 1, not as boring as 2, and bring back the survival mode.

Redshlrt,

I actually liked 2 more than one for the gameplay, but I thought 1 had the by far better atmosphere.

I do hope however, 3 comes out of the gate with more content for end game. I think both struggled a bit at launch and took a while for more content to show up and lost a lot of players because of it.

lvxferre, w Party Animals developer addresses "confusion" around playing offline
@lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

I wish that I could read Chinese, to check if Recreate Games’ claim of mistranslation holds some ground. It feels fishy though - usually developers are quite cautious with ambiguity; and when a business says that the customers are “confused”, more often than not the customers are quite lucid and complaining about spot on stuff, it’s just that this goes against the business’ best interests.

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