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DingoBilly, w Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly

Eh, more competition is good. This opinion is pretty basic.

From memory Epic has improved rates for developers/publishers - why the fuck wouldn’t you want that/just be ok with a base 30% cut because of some shitty ideal?

Gabu,

Epic also tried to datamine their users with literal spyware, their store is shit with no features, they gained market share via exclusivity deals (I shouldn’t need to explain why this is bad, yeah?), their CEO is a POS with horrible takes, Tencent has a large stake in the company… If anything, your opinion is shallow.

DingoBilly,

Ahh, so you can only have good competitors? It’s either a monopoly (which is only as good as the CEO in charge, and with time will go to shit), or competitors which do the same stuff and play nice?

This is reality. And you get good competition, you get bad, but in general it’s good for the consumer to have options. Fuck it, I’m actually completely happy using Valve for most things and then getting free games from Epic.

The view that a monopoly is better is just extremely short-sighted and naive. Similar to a “We should just have a dictator! This one guy is really good now, what could go wrong in the future?” type thinking.

Gabu,

Do you seriously not see your own hypocrisy?

Hurr durr, a monopoly is bad because the person in charge could become bad, so I’ll actively help this KNOWN bad actor to get a foothold in the market. I am very smart

DingoBilly,

So you’re making some false assumptions here:

  1. That a new person to Valve would be equal to Epic, as opposed to massively running Steam into the ground in a significantly worse way. It’d be easy for some dumbass to suggest a subscription service is needed for Steam for example, you need to may $10 a month to support it. Whelp, Steam is now shit.
  2. You assume I’m helping Epic whatsoever. I get free games, that only costs Epic… So yes, this is helping me and costing Epic. Net win for consumers.
  3. If a developer/publisher wants the choice to pay lower fees they can do so via Epic. It’s great they have the choice, I support devs being able to do what works best for them.

There’s no hypocrisy there - it’s just logical that it’s a good outcome to have competition.

Perhaps I should turn the argument around - why is a monopoly by Steam a good thing? Long-term it’s completely unsustainable and they will do bad things, so why would you support that?

Gabu,

I’m not assuming jack shit. I’m factually stating Valve/Steam are currently great for the gaming industry and Epic is toxic refuse.

This opinion is in no way unpopular. Valve is privately owned and headed by a single individual with tremendous purpose of will, which is how they’ve done so many great things for the gaming industry. The issue lies with said leadership vacating their role (GabeN is getting old) and some greedy bastard taking the company in a wholy different direction. tl;dr: we need a strong competitor, but not now, and ABSOLUTELY not Epic.

Are my exact words from this very thread.

You assume I’m helping Epic whatsoever. I get free games, that only costs Epic… So yes, this is helping me and costing Epic. Net win for consumers.

Did you think Epic’s financial department had an extended vacation or something? They don’t give a shit that you downloaded the game they made available for free, that was the whole point of their stunt and they were prepared to use money in order to claw some market share.

If a developer/publisher wants the choice to pay lower fees they can do so via Epic. It’s great they have the choice, I support devs being able to do what works best for them.

And I boycott devs who sell their souls for a quick buck. Darkest Dungeon is one of my favorite games of all time - I still haven’t bought DD2, even though it was made available on Steam after the period of exclusivity elapsed.

it’s just logical that it’s a good outcome to have competition.

Except it isn’t. It’s only good to have good faith competition of well behaved market players - Epic does not qualify.

why is a monopoly by Steam a good thing? Long-term it’s completely unsustainable and they will do bad things, so why would you support that?

Again a horrible question. Something doesn’t have to be perfect in order to be markedly better than something else. Steam is, right now, no questions asked, infinitely better than Epic. Why support a shitty company that would happily bring everything crumbling down if it meant a quick buck?

DingoBilly,

I don’t understand.

Valve is good now so it doesn’t need a competitor? And only when it goes bad should another company exist as competitor? This makes no sense… It’s just not how the world works. Once you have a monopoly it typically stays a monopoly. Look at any of the current monopolies - many are going to shit like Google but there’s no real competition regardless.

You’re also discounting the fact the opposite fact - Epic might be terrible now, but change leadership and its now amazing.

You’re buying way into a very specific case of looking at where things are at now and making a judgement VS. Thinking of longer term ideas like competition is good.

Also, is steam infinitely better than Epic? That’s very debatable, I have no issues with either. To be honest, they’re much of a muchness. You may just be too heavily emotionally invested in these companies. Realistically, they are both just trying to make as much money out of you as they can. For instance, Steams use of their market and giving out digital cards to collect and level up is very predatory.

Gabu,

I get it, you’re a concern troll shilling for EGS. How much are you being paid?

DingoBilly,

If you don’t have an argument attack the person. I’ll take the point cheers.

Gabu,

I’m under no obligation to debate with a moron who can’t even follow the conversation, and behaves like a kid, looking for “scoring points”.

amos,

What spyware? The CEO has been a big advocate for lowering store prices (including Google and Apple stores) to help smaller developers. Their exclusive deals have also helped a lot of developers get their games made. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a game developed these days. Xbox, Sony, Nintendo all have exclusives.

I would say your take is a bit, shallow.

Gabu,

How much are you being paid to shill?

As an indie gamedev, yes, I DO know how hard it is to make a game – I also don’t think getting funding is worth selling your soul for.

They don’t want to lower percentages and prices to “help smaller developers”, but to gain market share. Your brainless whataboutism on consoles is also irrelevant – it’s bad there too. The only acceptable exclusivity is when the company behind the market also happens to develop (not fund) the game.

stillwater,

Look up the concept of loss leading. Do you think Epic are really just doing this for the benefit of developers or are they after something more insidious?

DingoBilly,

Yeah sure, Epic wants more market share.

But that’s ok - this is why competition is good. Devs make some more money, consumers get some free games.

Even if Epic ends up only matching Steam then this is a net win for people.

Asking for a monopoly is just short-sighted. Gabe leaves and then the next person in line is some $-hungry mofo who makes terrible decisions and you end up with a shit system. You need competition to keep things in check.

doublejay1999, w Leaked email reveals Phil Spencer's damning verdict on AAA games: 'Most publishers are riding the success of franchises created 10+ years ago'
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

20 years ago.

Call if Duty is 20 years old. FIFA is 30 years old.

remotelove,
@remotelove@lemmy.ca avatar

Diablo is 26

JJROKCZ,

Tbf there are only 4 (plus expansion) of those, there has been a cod per year for like 15 years now and a fifa every year for 20+. Those are the egregious offenders, I’m fine with a game franchise getting a new game every 7 years or so as long as it’s clear the studio has actually put work into that game.

DrSleepless,

“Tbf”? The last 2 installments of Diablo have been shit right out of the gate. D3 improved after many years.

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

I like how both of you couldn’t even remember Immortal enough to criticize it.

BarrelAgedBoredom,

It’s cause they don’t have phones

JJROKCZ,

Immortal isn’t a Diablo game, it’s a shameless cash grab with a Diablo skin

tetraodon,

Baldurs Gate was published in 1998

baatliwala,

So many games to prove your point and the one you choose is FIFA?

ThePantser, w Leaked email reveals Phil Spencer's damning verdict on AAA games: 'Most publishers are riding the success of franchises created 10+ years ago'
@ThePantser@lemmy.world avatar

Is it weird I read the title 4 times and every time I read Phil Spector and I kept wondering why we carried what a murderer thought about video games.

ThePantser, w Cyberpunk 2077's Biggest Mystery Unravels Further in Phantom Liberty and Update 2.0
@ThePantser@lemmy.world avatar

It’s just the MAC address of their first computer they used to render their games.

redcalcium, w KSP2 is Spamming the Windows Registry Over Weeks/Months Until the Game Will Stop Working Permanently

So, what’s the advantage of using windows registry? I’m mainly using linux, so the concept of registry sounds really strange in my head.

Thade780,
@Thade780@lemmy.world avatar

When the developers don’t abuse it, it’s a central place where all the settings and configuration parameters should be.

There’s no main advantage, it’s just a different concept.

Linux sysadmin for the past 25 years here that also has to work with Windows servers.

hansl,

Basically a network/local/user specific configuration database. Playing with it can break apps that expect their config to be in it, or to be of the type expected, even though they shouldn’t.

This about:config on Firefox but system wide. It’s your ~/.config and /etc/ folders in one database format, also manageable with AD and proper permissions.

mod,

If you’re using a Linux distribution: are you familiar with gsettings or some equivalent?

redcalcium,

Is It a frontend for dconf? I have to admit I never tinkered with any dconf stuff before as I live mostly in terminal and web browsers. Does dconf share similarities with windows registry?

mod,

Yes exactly, they’re similar. I guess there’s a universal desire for tree like data stores.

obinice, w Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t see what people have against Epic, they’re just another company running a storefront, right? Or are they union busters or something?

Any competition that can take on Stream’s monopoly is good, it’s been a long time coming.

You might think Steam are the good guys because they don’t abuse their customers yet, but all good things come to an end, eventually. A company with their level of monopolistic grasp doesn’t remain benign forever.

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

Valve is a private company so Gabe doesn’t have anyone breathing down his neck to grow endlessly not matter the costs. Also epic refuses to add any half decent consumer features along with buying exclusivity to their platform. Sweeney is also extremely anti linux so why would I give him money.

blind3rdeye,

Steam is pretty good, in many ways. … … There is a little bit of customer abuse creeping in though. It annoys me that I can’t turn off the “what’s new” panel. It’s nothing more than an advertisement panel, and the only options are to say ‘show less’ for individual games, one by one (and even then, it doesn’t stop showing advertisements related to those games).

In any case, I don’t use Epic’s launcher at all; so I won’t try to comment on which is better. I just think it’s good to point out that Steam isn’t perfect, and I agree that competition probably does them some good.

ryannathans, w Cyberpunk 2077's Biggest Mystery Unravels Further in Phantom Liberty and Update 2.0

Tldr still no official solution/answer, yet

ICastFist, w Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

The funny thing is that Valve kickstarted the digital sales with Half Life 2 back in 2004. Steam was an utter piece of shit for, what, some 6 years? It took them a lot of time to make it bearable, then good.

That the EGS launcher is a fucking Unreal app, needlessly bloated as fuck and with barely working UI shows their complete disregard for what is supposed to be their “money givers” (us, customers) and, like every other stupid company with their own launcher which manages to be worse than their fucking website, shows they refuse to learn the obvious.

I hope GOG never goes the enshitification path.

Honytawk,

I fucking hated Valve for making me buy a physical CD of Portal, only to get a CD with the Steam Installer and a code to download the game on their store.

Ironfacebuster,

Same thing happened to me but with portal 2. I had DSL at the time and it barely hit 10 Mbps on a good day which was great because I thought the disk had the game on it. Despite all of the pain I still love steam to this day lol (and I’ve gotten better Internet)

reagansrottencorpse,

I remember when steam first came out and I was like…I need this extra program to play counter strike now ?!

AllonzeeLV, w Roblox layoffs hit 30 staff in hiring team

When capitalism runs out of places to grow/metastasize, it will consume itself.

InEnduringGrowStrong, w KSP2 is Spamming the Windows Registry Over Weeks/Months Until the Game Will Stop Working Permanently
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yikes

pensa, w KSP2 is Spamming the Windows Registry Over Weeks/Months Until the Game Will Stop Working Permanently

I remember Scott Manley asked someone important on the dev team of ksp2 how they approached the 2 body problem. They guy gave a vague answer that they had solved it. If that were true they would have a Nobel Prize but they don't. So then and there I decided that KSP2 will not get my money. Which sucks because I have put a little over 2000 hours into KSP1.

AdrianTheFrog,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

“Solved it” for a game just means “approximated it well enough that the average user won’t notice”.

pensa, (edited )

I don't think that was the way he portrayed it. He made it seem like they really solved the 2 body problem. Scott Manley even made a comment about how grand that was. I really wish I could find the video to better show what I mean.

edit: here is one of him recalling it. https://youtu.be/vu22bFtZgKg?feature=shared&t=2294

BradleyUffner,

2 body orbits shouldn’t be a problem. They are easily solvable. 3 body systems are the ones that are problematic.

pensa,

Yeah, he says n-body problem in the video I linked above. I have no idea why I am saying 2 body problem.

KSPAtlas,
@KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

Funnily enough, there is an n-body mod for ksp1, which makes interplanet interactions more realistic (in fact, the mod has to slightly change the default system to stop the moons of Jool from slingshotting each other out) and allows advanced maneuvers like ballistic capture and lagrange points

Chailles,
@Chailles@lemmy.world avatar

And as someone who couldn’t even land on the Mun without crashing, I downloaded that mod and unsurprisingly found things even harder since it disables the standard maneuvers.

KSPAtlas,
@KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

It is not a beginner’s mod, the fact that its most often used with packs like RP-1 should say how hard it is

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Problematic in a computer model or…? How does real space travel account for the gravitational pull of 3+ celestial bodies?

pensa,

Roughly, that's why long distance missions need mid course correction burns.

Evil_Shrubbery, w Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly

Needs more GOG

790,

I absolutely love their client and prefer GOG over Steam. I remember how their client GOG Galaxy is highly praised in the developer community, because it is so well designed and runs so performant. It also allows you to play any previous versions of games you own.

https://lemmy.sdf.org/pictrs/image/3c34d2ef-24d5-4fa5-be65-fbaf5dbd9092.png

reddit.com/…/what_was_gog_galaxy_20_made_with/

Evil_Shrubbery,

Also DRM free.

At some point we could also perhaps resell the games, maybe (not sure where the proof per license would be tho).

worldofgeese,
@worldofgeese@lemmy.world avatar

What has GOG done for Linux? I care about OSS and companies supporting my preferred OSS operating system. To that end, Valve continues to be a steward without peer.

Vilian, w KSP2 is Spamming the Windows Registry Over Weeks/Months Until the Game Will Stop Working Permanently

thefuck, btw how proton handle the registry on steam deck/desktop linux?, that can happen there?

isVeryLoud,

Wine registry, and yes, but only within your Wine sandbox

CancerMancer, w New Minimum Age Classifications for Gambling, Loot Box Content in Australia - IGN

Simulated gambling is 18+ but real gambling is M? They got this backwards imo.

intelati, (edited ) w KSP2 is Spamming the Windows Registry Over Weeks/Months Until the Game Will Stop Working Permanently

Did I read that correctly?? 1.6 GB of registry files??

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