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mindbleach, w Nintendo Switch emulators Yuzu and Ryujinx can already run Red Dead Redemption on PC

Hilarious, after the tortuously long road Xenia took to get there.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Switch’s operating system is based on the OS from 3DS. The ARM architecture was already well documented and emulated. Tegra has documentation from NVidia.

With all that, making a Switch emulator was relatively “easy”. They took Citra, the 3DS emulator, and worked from there.

Xbox 360 is a different beast. Even its OS was only kinda Windows, so they couldn’t just take Wine and a PowerPC emulator and call it a day. Taking long is IMO not much of a surprise because of that.

mindbleach,

IIRC the original Xbox has even worse emulation, to this day, despite being infamously close to a stock PC.

What makes RDR’s emulation struggles noteworthy is that it’s a highly desirable game that still took ages to unfuck. Most nightmare cases for emulators seem to be random D-list titles. Pinball Fantasies on Game Boy had incomprehensible crashes, early and reliably, for no discernible reason. True Crime New York on Gamecube was a white whale for Dolphin despite being absolute garbage.

RDR was a huge deal for its own sake - and it ran bad, looked worse, and stayed that way for a while. Back in the day it was common for emulators to only work properly for big-name games. NESticle and SNES9X absolutely cheated to run major titles. Early N64 development was nothing but. So having this killer app refuse to work, year after year, was a lingering presence in people’s minds.

Finally getting it working, only to have a nearly painless alternative drop, is pretty goddang funny.

lamebox, (edited )

Aside from poorly documented hardware, one reason why Xbox emulation is in such an early state was simply lack of interest. The Xbox had a meager first-party library and what exclusives there were, were already available to play on every Xbox released ever since via back compat.

I think a more tragic case would be if MGS4 was ever re-released as part of the Master Collection ports. That game was designed from the ground up for PS3, and runs terrible even on the custom RPCS3 builds designed specifically for it.

uymai, w The Texas Chain Saw Massacre - Launch Trailer

Played it on Xbox yesterday— reminded me of the good times in Friday the 13th, looking forward to playing more so I can figure what everyone’s supposed to do

giant_smeeg, w Quake 2 Remastered Is Stunning - The DF Tech Review - Every Version Tested

Never played it but the passion in this video… might pick it up. Looking for something to play between now and starfield

orca,
@orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts avatar

I’m envious that you get to experience it for the first time. The Quake games are so worth it. Quake 3 becomes more arena-based but is an absolute blast to play online against people. It was a good chunk of my gaming life. 1 and 2 are FPS royalty. Simple and to the point.

giant_smeeg,

Definitely will play this.

Loved the newer doom games and absolutely loved Prodeus, so should love this too.

Question is do I play switch, PS5 at 120hz or PC with mouse.

(I have a kid so that list is order of how much I can play them)

orca,
@orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts avatar

I played the Quake games originally on the PC, but they’re great with a controller. Just dial the sensitivity in and you’re good. That’s always my concern because I mostly play on consoles now too, but Id and Bethesda put a lot of care into their gamepad layouts and settings.

orca,
@orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts avatar

Adding on, if you haven’t played the System Shock remake yet, I highly recommend it!

TheLowestStone,
@TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

Quake and Starfield are both first party Xbox games. Get PC Game Pass.

forgotaboutlaye,

I would go for PC, simply for the fact that you can get a Quake 2 key for super cheap, and the upgrade is free on PC for existing owners.

XaeroDegreaz,

Q2 and Unreal tournament ruled my gaming life too. I started playing back in the “Heat.net” / MPlayer era. I miss those services so much

kadu, (edited ) w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

I dropped it around the 25h mark, but even I can agree it is a good game that’s probably the current best in the genre

Cabeza2000,

Why you dropped it?

What other games you played in the genre?

JoMiran, w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I hope this inspires people to check out Larian’s Divinity: Original Sin series.

Dagrothus,

Divinity 2 has better combat than bg3

Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.social avatar

Well that's depressing because DOS2 has shitty combat

verysoft,

DOS2 combat allowed you to do goofy stuff and was fun casting spells. BG3 is more 1 turn 1 action and much slower and methodical, I mean makes sense, it is DnD afterall, it's designed for tabletop.

TheLowestStone,
@TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

It’s sort of DnD. Solasta offers much more authentic 5e combat (especially with mods) but has much weaker stories, awful faces, and bad voice acting.

Dagrothus,

Yeah I mean I thought divinity combat was fun. I could make massive plays to freeze everyone, create all sorts of elemental clouds and surfaces, group enemies up with teleports, etc. Some combos were definitely OP but that’s what makes it fun + you could ramp up difficulty with mods and such. You could also cast spells for fun or teleport just to get around the map without having to long rest. Baldur’s gate is much slower paced and playing with the elements like that seems way less viable.

MarcomachtKuchen,

I really liked the combat of DOS2. All the interactions between spells were a lot of fun. The only Thing i disliked is, how ineffetive movement felt. Either you had an attack which included movement, or you didnt wanna move

Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.social avatar

What interaction? The constant everything blows up damaging everyone while healing sucks? Stunning yourself because your standing in blood that glitched under ground? Spells that don't work on the slightest change in the z-axis?

MarcomachtKuchen,

All the interactions between conditions. How wet is the condition to Support shock aswell as frost. How the Rangers First Aid is the only way to remove knockdown. How Charmed kann be removed by clear mind, but not by magic armor. How most geomancer spells create explosive surfaces to synergise with pyro. How you can usw dragons breath to clear Ice so your Charakter wont slip

Itsamelemmy,

I picked up DOS1 EE and DOS2. Playing 1 when I don’t have access to my desktop as my laptop isn’t capable of running BG3. Still in the first town, but so far I’m enjoying Divinity as well.

atlasraven31, w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG

But it doesn’t have to be a once in a decade thing. We can drop a great RPG or even a good shooter every couple years.

nyctre,

I meant … it’s not. There have been 3 larian games in the last 9 years, and all 3 have been great. And they’re not the only good games or RPGs. So the title is just the usual click bait crap

atlasraven31,

I played Divine Divinity some when it was released. It was interesting but clunky. It was no Neverwinter Nights.

I want to see us as gamers get away from sequelitis and get full games again without lock boxes or cash shops or battle passes. The excitement of Doom or Battlefield 2 or Elden Ring.

verysoft,

Wont happen. Average consumer consumes without thought for the larger picture, theres a reason we got to this point, people are suckers and buy it all, the most recent trap they willingly jump into is "pre order for X days early access", I will never understand.

atlasraven31,

Some games like Factorio and BattleBit are worth buying in early access

verysoft,

Early access as in still in development, sure some are, but that is not what I was talking about. It's preorder our finished game (and/or buy a 'deluxe' edition) and get the game 'early' before its release date. Reality is, its just a delayed release for smarter consumers.

Lojcs,

And that’s bad, how? If other people were able to play it early you know it wasn’t finished the day before release and can read reviews before buying.

verysoft,

How is that not bad? It's preying on people to soak up more money. If you cant understand the difference between buying a game in development vs spending extra to play a game a few days early, then the sun might as well be the moon.
I wouldnt recommend buying games in early access either, especially if they are not discounted. If done properly theres no malice in a company asking for funds as you join the development process of a game. Whereas asking for more money to simply play a game 3 days before its official release with no other differences to the game is just predatory, abusing people excitement and hype to squeeze every last penny out where they can. Keep in mind its the multimillion or multibillion dollar companies pulling this, not your indie studios who are the ones who usually use the in dev early access program.

Lojcs,

If you cant understand the difference between buying a game in development

I didn’t say anything about development.

If people want to spend money to play a game early that’s their choice. Just because it’s not something you wouldn’t do doesn’t mean it has no value to anyone. If anything it provides value to the people who aren’t going to buy the game blind on release date (unless the company postpones the release date to make room for early access I guess). Plus the dev has a chance to find and fix bugs before most people start playing.

Also is there a specific game you’re talking about? I’ve only seen games get more expensive after early access, not less.

verysoft,

I imagine the term Early Access is causing confusion here.

I am not talking about the Steam Early Access program, where developers can get some early funding of their game and community feedback on the game during development. I have no issue with this program if it used correctly, which it is mostly. Games generally do get more expensive when leaving yes, as most developers recognise that charging people full price for an unfinished game is unfair.

What I was referring to is different, the early access I am referring to is a recent marketing strategy, generally used to make people spend more money on 'deluxe' editions of video games.
The most recent example would be Starfield, Bethesda are offering a 'Premium Edition' which costs almost 50% more than the base game, it contains some art and soundtrack along with some skins (I won't rant about that right now, but come on...), but it's main selling point being the '5 days early access' to the game. The game releases officially on 6th September, but if you purchase this 'Premium Edition' you can play the game on the 1st September instead.
This is what I have issue with and it is a horrible new practice that many of these multi-billion dollar companies are pulling to try and get more money from people. I understand it's ultimately the choice of the consumer to buy this, but it is preying on their hype and excitement for a game to make them fork over more money that they otherwise would not do.

It's sad to see. Games used to just have a standard price, you paid it got a full game and off you went, now there's all these special editions with extra bullshit attached in an attempt to milk consumers. You should absolutely be against these practices.

srecko,

New harry potter is one example, where if you had deluxe version, you could play the game 3 days before the official release.

Bluescluestoothpaste,

I think they meant DOS 1 & 2

deweydecibel, w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG

I said it once before but this is exactly the game that needed to come out after Final Fantasy 16, and Dragon Age Dreadwolf’s bullshit is going to look even worse in this game’s shadow. Just to shut up the think pieces and comment sections that claim RPGs becoming God of War clones is somehow the only “modern” direction to take them.

tallwookie, w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG
@tallwookie@lemmy.world avatar

because it’s a good game, or because they didnt go the DLC route?

Kichae,

Because they sold a whole bunch of copies.

utopianrevolt,

all of the above

sugar_in_your_tea,

It turns out, if you make a good game, it’ll probably sell well.

shrugal,

Yes

people_are_cute,
@people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Because people don’t currently have many options among new games.

verysoft, w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG

Well DOS2 came out 6 years ago, so hardly once in a decade.

nicktron,
@nicktron@kbin.social avatar

What’s DOS2?

Elegast,
@Elegast@lemmy.ca avatar

Divinity original sin 2 id assume. Great game as well by Larian.

scottywh,

Interesting that it didn’t gain similar notoriety then.

theragu40,

I think the Baldurs Gate name/brand carries a ton of weight still. Lots of people are nostalgic for it because it was a formative game of the 90s.

Bandananaan,

I think bg3 is also a lot easier to get into than dos 1 and 2. Having actual cut scenes and voice acting for everything goes a long way in making the game immersive. I also feel its easier to get into the combat (though that may just be me having got used to dos beforehand)

theragu40,

I’m really looking forward to playing it (I’ve promised myself to fully beat TotK before I pick it up). I played a ton of BG 1 and 2 when I was a kid and even for me they are hard to pick back up now. A slightly more accessible version of that sounds amazing.

Bandananaan,

I tried playing bg 1 and 2 about 10 years ago. I put about 40 hours in between them and enjoyed it, but I found it tough going. I’ve found bg3 way easier to get into and have already far surpassed the hours I put into the original games. On top of what I’ve already mentioned, the change to fully turn based is a huge improvement on that weird pausable real time used in the previous games

theragu40,

I’m really excited to hear that. The real time but actually not combat I think is what really killed me when I played them. I was only like 15 years old but I think I just didn’t “get” it and tried to just go for it in real time which made many encounters incredibly difficult.

BloodForTheBloodGod,

IMO it didn’t have an engaging start. The joke/parody concept also scratches s different itch.

RegularGoose,

6 years ago was a different decade.

BloodForTheBloodGod,

I found that game wasn’t 8% as engaging or interesting to.me

verysoft,

As BG3? Its the same formula, just different lore and combat.

BloodForTheBloodGod,

I just didn’t like it

twistedtxb, w Quake 2 Remastered Is Stunning - The DF Tech Review - Every Version Tested
@twistedtxb@lemmy.ca avatar

This is exactly like you do a proper remaster. I just finished the new expansion and this alone could justify a $40 price point.

Take Two should be ashamed of themselves

BudgieMania, w Total War: Warhammer 3 DLC is getting more expensive and the community is rebelling: 'Remember they need us more than we need them'

If they need more revenue, I wish they would try console releases instead of deteriorating the value of newer DLC. Company of Heroes did it so it is not unheard of, and surely the hardware of latest gen consoles is enough to run a semi-decent experience of Total War titles.

As much as I love the franchise, I'm kinda concerned for its future if they continue down the current route, not gonna lie.

ThunderingJerboa,
@ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social avatar

I think that will be dreadful. Like not a huge fan of the dlc price increases (seriously almost 150% increase over the last game when their last lord pack COC was already an increase), just TW on console just sounds awful since the controls just aren't precise enough for what you need to do in those games. Yes, you can plug in a keyboard and mouse in a console but I don't think many people would be willing to do that for just a singular game except for the most tryhardy of people

qwertyWarlord, w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG

Hey if we can have several one in a decade world events happening in a short timespan, surely we can get some good games too

Bishma, w 'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It scratches the same itch that has led me to buy Skyrim at least 3 times (PS3, PC, and Switch)

Default_Defect, w Nintendo Switch emulators Yuzu and Ryujinx can already run Red Dead Redemption on PC
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

4k 60 fps on my 3080 on day one, its wild.

wahming, (edited ) w Dave The Diver Director Says Future Updates Will Add New Side Missions And Fish

How about getting the game to play at 60 freaking FPS

Edit: I guess from the downvotes that everybody’s playing this on their custom gaming rig. Seriously, the performance is awful for a pixel art game

FracturedEel,

Are you playing it on a potato

wahming,

1 year old macbook pro, which you’d think would suffice for a game of this graphical quality

sparse_neuron,

Works at 60FPS on a Steam deck so not sure what’s going on with your machine.

wahming,

1 year old macbook pro, which you’d think would suffice for a game of this graphical quality

sparse_neuron,

Sounds more like a Mac software issue then a game issue.

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