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NRay7882, w I wonder why Godot and Unreal are getting so much interest today

I could see this encouraging a whole new form of brigading. Imagine if a developer pissed off the community, thousands of people could go about uninstalling and reinstalling the game over and over, driving up the engine monthly bill for the company.

Did they put anything in place with their new rules to prevent this from being abused?

wahming,

They claim to. Do you trust their software reporting system?

activ8r,

I trust they did their best.
I also trust that any sufficiently tech savvy individual will be able to bypass that system. It only takes one person to pull it off and then it’s public knowledge. Sure, they’ll fix it, and then someone will do it again.
Small companies can’t afford to take that risk and larger companies won’t want the hassle.

It’s a shame too. I liked Unity more than Unreal. Oh well.

Eezyville,
@Eezyville@sh.itjust.works avatar

I trust they did their best.

Lol. This is a for profit company sir

wahming,

The point was, do you trust their software to accurately detect and ignore repeat installs and pirated copies, when it’s in their obvious interest to half ass that detection and charge devs more?

bloopernova, w Todd Howard says Starfield mod support is on the way next year
@bloopernova@programming.dev avatar

Should’ve been there from the start.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

I don’t even understand the delays. They have claimed that the tools they release are the same tools they use to build out their games. Shouldn’t they already have working tools? And what really changes between the games that I can’t just use Fallout 4’s or Skyrim’s creation kit? I’ve always found this to be odd.

Chailles,
@Chailles@lemmy.world avatar

The tools are usually stripped down versions of their internal kits. At least, that’s what I’ve read on the topic. I don’t actually know whether that’s entirely true or to what extent if it is.

The other reason may also have to do with console modding. Getting that set up or whatever.

Dirk_Darkly,

After playing their games for many years, I’m not convinced their tools are working.

DrQuint,

When Bethesda launches mod support, they will do it as a Creation Platform. They don’t want mods to merely exist, they want to control its presentation.

n3m37h, w Star Citizen Funding crosses $600 million mark

How to launder money 101

chaogomu,

They aren't laundering money. No. They're basically just setting it on fire.

See, Chris Roberts is the king of feature creep. He keeps wanting to add in the new shiny while not paying attention to finishing the shit that's already on the list.

They've also thrown out previous work to start over again more than once.

sane,
@sane@feddit.de avatar

Star Citizen needs something like what happened to Freelancer if they ever want to release: change of management. It suffered the exact same feature creep and that only ended when Microsoft stepped in and ousted Roberts

space,

Check my other comment, I found a quote saying they have about 1000 employees. At $100k/yr average salary, that’s about $100M/yr just to pay the salaries. Even if they underpay at $50k/yr, thats $50M/yr. That money is simply being burned. This whole project is a classic example of feature creep and sunk cost fallacy.

nanoUFO, w Star Citizen Funding crosses $600 million mark
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

I expect to see many videos exploring the failures of this project in the future, maybe a few lawsuits. It would be a miracle if a good complete game worth this investment was created.

cstine,

Eh, I think CIG has enough true believers buying JPEGs for this to continue pretty much until the whales die of old age or just run out of money to send him. I wouldn’t be shocked if we’re still talking about this in another decade, except this time it’s $1.2 billion in funding.

Dindonmasker,
@Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works avatar

After a couple trillions in funding maybe we will see a true 1 to 1 to real life physics engine lol

WrittenWeird,

After that much funding it would have been cheaper to build a real space program.

cstine,

Yes but would a real space program have you fall through the floor of your toilet and spin off out into space? I don’t think so.

drspod,

Give me an extra trillion and I can make it happen for you.

AssPennies,

| you fall through the floor of your toilet and spin off out into space

$40 worth of the right mushroom variety can get you the same effect.

cstine,

How many mushrooms can I get in exchange for these stupid spaceship jpegs?

tupcakes,
@tupcakes@midwest.social avatar

Not gonna lie. I was a huge fan of wing commander and freelancer. I backed this early, but for a while now I’ve given up on ever expecting anything from this project.

I’m not sure it’s actually a scam, but probably a vision that got away from them due to feature creep. At this point I don’t even care.

CryptoRoberto,

Same boat.

ivanafterall, w Half-Life is not dead, as new Steam record shows Valve we all still care

Seems like kind of a weird gesture given that Alyx was released only three years ago. By Valve standards, that's still considered hot off the presses.

rich,

And Alyx is incredible

I’ve only had a select few genuine “holy fuck” moments during gaming where I have genuinely been stunned. One being Mario 64 in 1996, the other being Half Life Alyx.

It’s a shame it’s in a medium that restricts how many people can actually play the thing. The VR-less mod does the game a huge disservice.

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m going to guess most people into half life aren’t going to sink $1000 into computer upgrades and a VR headset.

ElectroLisa,
@ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Half-Life: Alyx doesn’t require a NASA PC, and you can play it on cheaper headsets like Quest 2, or even older used ones like Rift S or HTC Vive

julianh,

Yeah I used my $600 PC and a ~$300 Windows mixed reality headset. Far from ideal tbf but still a mind-blowing experience.

sanpedropeddler,

It requires a fairly good PC. I played it on my budget rig with a used rift s. I was very glad I don’t get motion sick easily because it was very often well below 60fps.

ElectroLisa,
@ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

My PC has an RX 580 and it works fine for me, I’d say that’s a budget GPU

Thepolack,

Are you telling me a new Half Life game came out three years ago and I missed it?

AdmiralShat,

VR only

Master,
@Master@sh.itjust.works avatar

There is a non-vr mod for it.

gk99,

It’s not worth playing non-VR. To be blunt, all of the game elements other than graphics really kinda suck from a traditional gameplay perspective and are forgiven or ignored because of what VR adds. The levels are claustrophobic, the weapon and enemy variety is horrid, the AI was handicapped to make it easier to shoot in VR, there isn’t even a jump button or melee attack in a franchise known as a boomer shooter with a crowbar-wielding protagonist. It’s not a traditional Half-Life game and trying to play it as one will likely lead to disappointment.

The reverse isn’t true, playing the VR mods for the rest of the franchise is a blast and there are plenty of amazing VR conversions for other games, so I find it saddening this is the direction Valve took for Alyx.

sanpedropeddler,

Its definitely not what you usually get in a half life game but I wouldn’t say its not worth playing without vr. If you’re willing to live with the differences then you can still enjoy it.

julianh,

My impression from participating was that it was more for fun rather than trying to make a statement. It was cool to see multiple full servers.

InEnduringGrowStrong, w Unity CEO John Riccitiello Steps Down After Pricing Blowup
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

Greedy out of touch old fuck.
Then again, it’s s not like the board is much better.
He’s gonna be their golden fall guy now, but it’s shit all the way up.

newthrowaway20,

My thinking exactly. He’s just giving the board what they want, and continuing to do so by taking the fall.

gsf, w CD Projekt employees form a union

Not just at CD Projekt. This is a trade union!

Bongles, w Leaked email reveals Phil Spencer's damning verdict on AAA games: 'Most publishers are riding the success of franchises created 10+ years ago'

Starfield advertised something like “Bethesdas first new universe in 25+ years” (paraphrasing)

That is not a good thing.

JackbyDev,

Hypothetically I don’t see a problem with things like a new entry in Elder Scrolls. The problem (to me) seems more like constantly remaking Skyrim into new editions and for each new console.

Transcendant,

constantly remaking Skyrim into new editions

That’s pretty much Starfield in a nutshell, Skyrim in space. Don’t get me wrong it’s a fun game but it’s basically reskinned Skyrim with a few new systems bolted on. I’m also noticing some reused assets from Fallout, pretty sure the noise the scanner makes when opening is the same as opening the PipBoy.

EdanGrey,

I’m quite happy with starfield, but I did notice some reused noises definitely. I’m not sure that I particularly mind though

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

And then most of the universe was loading screens

vlad76, w CD Projekt recommends starting a new game when Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 drops: 'starting fresh will enhance your overall gameplay experience'
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’m looking forward to playing it again. After BG3. And in between Tarkov. After Starfield. I guess by that point Elden Ring DLC might be out. Also need to play RE4 remaster. . Also didn’t a Harry Potter game come out recently? Also Atomic Heart had a DLC. Still need to try Hell Let Loose…

Maybe one day.

123,

Also

VentraSqwal,

Ya I’ll probably bump it up ahead on the list because I loved the game so much. But I know what you mean, I’m way behind on games. I just beat the FF7 Remake and am in the middle of Horizon Zero Dawn (ya, the first one).

Redredme,

You forgot about armoured core 6. Which, you just must play, especially with that backlog.

bbigras,

You forgot about armoured core 6. Which, you just must play, especially with that backlog.

I suck at souls games but I like robots. Should I still give it a try?

Breezy,

Yes, its not a souls game anyways, just a hard mech game. Which is kinda the staple for mech games.

Also though you can suck at soul like games but still enjoy them. Honestly the first step into getting good is figuring out which type of cheese you prefer. Ive always been partial to big sticks turning enemies into pancakes. It works on most games that are similar. Havent found a weapon to do so in lie of p yet, but thats a good thing for me since it changed my play style.

bbigras,

Thanks!

PoetSII,

Harry Potter and Starfield ain’t worth your time mate

vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Harry Potter probably not. But I’ll try Starfield.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

If you’re a fan, I’d say the beginning when you’re in Hogwarts and Hogsmeade is worth playing. But as soon as the plot takes you south, just stop playing.

Starfield is…a Bethesda game, no doubt about that. You’ll probably like it okay if you like their games, just don’t expect to be impressed or anything like that.

vlad76,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Bethesda games are a skeleton for mods for me, so I’ll pick it up after the modding scene matures.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

If someone has the time and resources, they could make a really good game out of it.

rip_art_bell,
@rip_art_bell@lemmy.world avatar

BG3 is amazing

wahming, w $70 Mortal Kombat 1 Switch version called "robbery" as graphical comparisons flood the internet

Seriously, it’s a product for sale. Don’t like the price, vote with your wallet and don’t buy it. What’s with the manufactured outrage for every topic nowadays

elbarto777,

I don’t like how many posts cater to outrage lately, true.

But I don’t think this one is manufactured.

wahming,

Yeah, manufactured might have been the wrong word. Pointless? Uncalled for?

elbarto777, (edited )

But why would it be pointless or uncalled for? $70 for a rather old game?

Edit: I’ve been schooled. Is a brand new game with a confusing name. Still $70 for a console game; yikes.

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Its not an old game, MK1 is the latest release. The people getting served this are running it on hardware that was weak last generation. At a certain point you simply cannot push these devices any further. MK1 for Switch was never going to look beautiful, the current gen Switch can’t do it. I’m okay with devs making their games available, I mean at least you can play it. Theres a reason a Switch 2 is in the works.

Satelllliiiiiiiteeee,
@Satelllliiiiiiiteeee@kbin.social avatar

This is a brand new game, they just gave it a confusing name

wahming,

Because you have the full choice to not buy and support it, if you think the price is unreasonable. It’s not a vital need, and nobody’s forcing customers to buy it. Housing, food, healthcare, we don’t have a choice. Buy or die. A video game? Not so much. The issue is not game publishers overcharging, it’s players who moan and whine… AND THEN BUY IT ANYWAY, thus ensuring the publishers will continue the practice

elbarto777,

Sure, but are we talking about people who buy the game, or people in general bashing at the price? They’re not necessarily the same group.

It’s like when Apple announced that $1000 monitor stand. It was laughable. Even if I won’t buy one, I bashed it to no end, because it was fun.

Vamanos,

Others have already replied with this info but I’m just spelling it out for anyone who is not familiar like me:

They fucking named the brand new game mk1. Is it a remaster? No. It’s not a remaster. Is it a recreation of mk1? No. It’s an alternate timeline game given the worst name in the history of naming things. It’s genuinely a brand new game.

elbarto777,

Holy shit. They really fucked up with that name.

Poggervania,
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

I mean… we live in the timeline where we had the Xbox One being the third Xbox, and Battlefield 1 not being the first Battlefield.

I would not be surprised if we start seeing “[Game Title] One” for rebooted games.

Vamanos,

Sometimes I wish I could have a job where companies just say “hey should we make this decision” and I tell them “that’s so fucking stupid no one will actually like that” and get paid well for it.

That’s my dream.

geosoco,

I've had some similar roles before, but more often than not companies just do it anyway, even if you have a lot of data to the contrary. It's stupidly easy for someone in management to push some of this through despite the data, choose an arbitrary metric to define their success, get their bonus, and then bail for another company. Meanwhile, folks left at the company have to then try and fix all of the nonsense. It blows that we value failing forward. I've seen a few decent products just tanked this way.

VonCesaw,

That’s standard price for new games from EA, greater Microsoft (id, Bethesda, Obsidian, 343, etc), SqEnix, and WB

elbarto777, (edited )

Which is bullshit. It reminds me of when web email services offered ridiculously small inbox sizes, such as 25MB or 50MB. Then in came Google and offered 1GB, and all of a sudden all those companies found the way to match Google’s offering.

But I guess if people are willing to pay for those ridiculous prices, and deal with in-game payments… shrug.

Lojcs,

I don’t think it’s “outrage”. It’s people making fun of the port on x and the website capitalizing on that to publish a story

wahming,

They’re calling it robbery and disrespectful. I’m not seeing where the joke is

Lojcs,

Crying at the Switch version of Mortal Kombat 1, Why didn’t they just wait for the next gen switch console, the fact it costs 70$ is robbery💀💀💀

I think it’s clear that they’re not literally calling it a robbery, they’re just expressing their discontent in a twitter way.

BeardedGingerWonder,

People are complaining because they don’t like a thing, that’s fine. Same as you’re complaining in this post. Call companies out on their bullshit. Also don’t buy bullshit, that’s a good point too.

wahming,

Because it doesn’t qualify as bullshit. Company made a product, set a price. Either you find it worth the price or not, but either way what’s the reason to kick up a fuss over an optional good

FooBarrington,

Company also sold pre-orders for a product, which means people can’t really decide whether the product is exactly what they want until they get it. At which point they complain, because they trusted the company not to sell a sub-par product. What is your issue?

wahming,

? The complaint right now is about the price, not the quality of the product. Are you saying they didn’t know the price when they preordered it?

On a side note, preorders are a scam. If you’re dumb enough to preorder a game in unlimited supply, that’s on you.

FooBarrington,

My guy, the complaint is about the price because of the quality. Or, as you are asking, are you saying people didn’t know the price when they bought it?

On a side note, preorders are a scam. If you’re dumb enough to preorder a game in unlimited supply, that’s on you.

I agree that pre-orders are a scam, but it’s shitty to say “you knew what you bought!” when some people literally couldn’t.

wahming,

I’m not saying they knew what they bought, I’m saying it’s on them for choosing to buy before they knew what they were buying. Seriously, people need to take responsibility for their choices already.

FooBarrington,

Earlier you said:

Company made a product, set a price. Either you find it worth the price or not, but either way what’s the reason to kick up a fuss over an optional good

Now you’re saying it’s on people who pre-order. Can’t we stop pushing this on the consumer and start demanding better from the manufacturers? Why can they sell shitty products, instead of being held to higher standards?

wahming,

In this particular case, it’s not on the publisher. The switch is an old console, and there’s only so much they can do with the hardware. It’s not a particularly big surprise to anybody familiar with the technology.

Why SHOULDN’T we hold consumers to task for their bad decisions? They are arguably making things worse for the rest of us, by repeatedly rewarding bad behaviour from companies. There is no good reason for them to preorder, they just had to be the first instead of waiting a day for reviews to appear. Well, if you’re going to be impatient, guess what? The risk is on you.

FooBarrington,

In this particular case, it’s not on the publisher. The switch is an old console, and there’s only so much they can do with the hardware. It’s not a particularly big surprise to anybody familiar with the technology.

Then they should be open about this before and during release.

Why SHOULDN’T we hold consumers to task for their bad decisions?

Because it doesn’t work. One side of the equation spends lots of money to make sure as many consumers as possible make bad decisions, because it makes them even more money. You can’t fix this only by changing the other side.

wahming,

I didn’t suggest fixing it. I said the consumers consciously made a bad decision, and they should take responsibility for it. I’m tired of grown ups acting like kids.

FooBarrington,

And by pushing the responsibility onto the consumer, all you do is support the shitty business practices of the manufacturer.

520, w Fables creator places Wolf Among Us universe in public domain amid clash with DC over Telltale adaptation

Is there any where we can donate to the guy or buy something directly from him?

I really enjoyed his works, being introduced to them by the Telltale game. It sucks he hasn't been paid properly.

xcxcb, w Judge issues legal permaban, $500K judgment against serial Destiny 2 cheater

I just hope “injected code” and “overlays” don’t become somehow actually illegal because of these rulings because there are plenty of valid uses too.

platypode,
@platypode@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m curious what uses you have in mind–anything that’s an online competitive (i.e., you compete against other players–doesn’t need to be esports sweaty) game I don’t think there’s a strong case for allowing injected code, since that’s an avenue for gaining an unfair advantage and thereby worsening other players’ enjoyment, and anything offline I can’t see it being worth a company’s time and money to prosecute.

xcxcb,

Destiny 2 isn’t really online competitive for starters.

RobertOwnageJunior,

It definitely has elements though.

xcxcb,

No, it really doesn’t at all in a sense that anyone cares remotely about.

BloodyFable,

It definitely has elements in it.

Void, solar, arc, strand and as stasis.

You should learn more about the game if you’re gonna criticize it.

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I agree. Competitive games and code injection don’t mix but for those that are not competitive (i.e. minecraft), code injection is important.

Maestro,
@Maestro@kbin.social avatar

I think the problem is that the ruling now establishes that overlays and injected code are a copyright violation. Therefor any overlay or injected code is now illegal unless you have permission from the authors if the game.

BirdyBoogleBop,

Well Nintendo are very litigious they already DMCA’ed a Zelda Breath of the Wild multiplayer mod. (As in it made the single player game multiplayer)

I really wouldn’t want them to have more power to hurt their fans.

Risk,

The solution is to not be a Nintendo fan.

No, seriously. You support their draconic practices by buying their games.

PeterPoopshit, (edited )

This. Nintendo is one of the least ethical videogame companies out there. Even when they come up with something new and innovative, it’s so locked down you’re better off waiting to play someone else’s copycat of it.

Cabeza2000, w Baldur's Gate 3 has ruined Starfield for me

BG3 is critically acclaimed and on path to win every GOTY award this year. Taking this into consideration any game compared against BG3 may look lackluster, not just Starfield.

I didn’t play these games yet but I did play The Outer Worlds and it was acceptable to me. If Starfield is a game along the same lines then I am OK with that.

Immersive_Matthew,

Hogwarts Legacy was a very solid title with very memorable characters, story and wow what a detailed fun world. Have not played BG3 yet so cannot compare, but Hogwarts is my GOTY so far.

sirico,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

You don’t remember that goblin whose blood was on Ranroks hands?!

Daevan,

Lol, if you think this of Hogwarts then your mind Will be blown away by the depth of BG3 story

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

The story of Hogwarts wasn’t that great but neither was BG3.

pomodoro_longbreak,
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

How dare you

seejur, (edited )

Just finished Hogwarts yesterday for the first time. I absolutely love the world building, but I found the story a bit lacking. In my mind I ended up siding with Ranrok, in his quest to free the goblins, Sebastian (Solomon was an asshole thorough and through), and the ending was pretty vanilla. Also the whole idea in the ending of keeping the ancient power secret makes no sense: the same implications could be made100% for normal magic

deadcream, w Starfield gets low-spec PC mod for those gaming on potatoes

Potatoes? You mean PCs with < $1000 GPUs?
I'm not touching Starfield until I can play it at 1440p 60 fps with decent graphics (yes, actual 1440p, not "720p upscaled to 1440p" bullshit. Neither that nor 30 fps are acceptable to me).

If Bethesda can't be bothered to fix performance and I will need to wait years until I decide to upgrade so be it - I have plenty of great games in my "to play" list. By that time the will also be lots of mods to choose from to make Starfield worth it.

BruceTwarzen,

It's crazy to me that they make the same game for almost 20 years but still can't make it work. The ai seems to get worse every game, computers get better and better but it still runs the same.

salton,

Just from a a couple of nights playing Starfield. The combat ai does seem more interesting then with enemies jumping off ledges to get to you etc but not but a whole heck of a lot. L

Hyperreality,

Wait a year for the modding community to finish it.

When I first played Fallout 4 years ago, it ran at 20fps in some parts of the map and on medium.

Playing it again now, modded to the max, ultra, higher res textures, 60fps everywhere.

Same pc.

deadcream,

That's the plan. I haven't actually properly played F4 yet either lol (tried years ago but dropped due to performance issues). Probably will do it soon after spending a month modding it.

Hyperreality,

Did that on skyrim.

Don't know how much free time you have, but I couldn't be bothered anymore for FO4 on nexus. I just downloaded one of the bigger/better collections and ignored/deactivated the creepier/boobier mods.

Already more than enough of a hassle to get that working, with vortex sometimes not installing stuff properly, pre-cleaning files, etc.

deadcream,

I just enjoy that stuff lol. I only stopped my last Skyrim playthrough because I kept updating my mods and adding new ones and at the one point it just broke all of my saves. I took it as a sign to move on to other games.

Hyperreality,

Same, but realistically once you start heading towards the 500 mods range, it's almost impossible to get it working reliably.

At one point I had 200+ mods on skyrim, and the mod cycles and before/after conflicts on vortex looked like mandelas. I did enjoy 'completing' the vortex mod manager game. That's when it's 3AM, you're fed up, you give up trying to figure what's wrong, and just click randomly and uninstall/reinstall mods until vortex shuts up, and it somehow just works. Bit like winning the lottery.

DadVolante,
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ve never played a Bethesda game at launch.

Or any game for that matter.

Tigbitties, w Pokémon Go now has more Pokémon than any main series game
@Tigbitties@kbin.social avatar

This game was designed to provide the minimum of fun at a maximum cost.

mojo,

All you just said was it’s designed to be a mobile game

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