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NOT_RICK, w LoL players rebel against “disgusting” prices with new Prestige TFT skin - Dexerto
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

If someone wants to waste their money on cosmetics that’s their problem

corrupts_absolutely,

why are there laws against gambling around the world then? its completely voluntary

ninjan,

Because in our society we very much need money and gambling sells itself by making you believe you’ll get money. Cosmetics in games has no such issues.

EDIT: as long as you can’t sell them for money a la CSGO.

brsrklf,

If that was the only reason, nobody would care about vulnerable people as long as they’re not dirt poor to begin with.

Decent gambling laws are supposed to protect people with addiction problems.

De_Narm,

Paid cosmetics being fine stems from a time where not every other game weaponized FOMO by basically hacking your brain. Yes, it is still easily avoidable by a lot of people, but we shouldn’t allow vulnerable people being preyed on.

DrQuint, w LoL players rebel against “disgusting” prices with new Prestige TFT skin - Dexerto

So… a gacha with a mounting odds and a top reward?

I dunno, this kind of stuff is just background noise to me. I ignore all of it.

Naz, w Meta Quest 3: New Mixed Reality VR Headset

I’ve got the Q2, and I’ve heard the Q3 is like half the size and weight. If that’s true, it’s a decent upgrade - for me, personally. I don’t care about any of that Meta/Facebook shit, I sideload my APKs and neuter their monitoring and use it as a wireless display, a la Valve Index.

Socsa, w LoL players rebel against “disgusting” prices with new Prestige TFT skin - Dexerto

You can play the game without the skin, right? And the skin gives you no advantage?

I legitimately don’t understand the issue here. Fleecing idiots literally makes your experience better by keeping the game free and popular.

shifty51,

Because some people aren’t idiots, they are gamblers with a real addiction. If you had a gambling addiction today or were part of a vulnerable group with no other outlets this game would bleed them dry and leave them with nothing of value they can sell later when they hit rock bottom. It’s not morons we care about, it’s addicts.

yata,

Why does a game becoming streamlined to fleecing idiots make your experience better?

Swarfega, w Concerned Ape: Stardew Valley 1.6 content sneak peek. no release date yet

ConcernedApe continuing to be legendary. I’ve not played Stardew for a long time but knowing this game made this game was made by one person… the coding… the story… the graphics… the music. It’s just mind boggling. Absolutely amazing.

I should start a new character and experience all the stuff that’s been added.

Infinity187, w $600 Million And A Decade Later, Where Is Star Citizen

The grift or grifts as it relates to gaming…DayZ is a close second.

JokeDeity,

I had a lot of fun playing DayZ though, lol.

Infinity187,

Same here, put a good 150 hrs with friends. Solo sucks.

JokeDeity,

I have no friends so it was always solo, lol. Which would be the same case if I played this “game”.

SRo, w Skill Up: I was not ready for how impressive Alan Wake II is (Hands-On Impressions)

Fuck epic

li10, w LORDS OF THE FALLEN - Overview Trailer

I am still so surprised that they made a sequel for this.

The first game was just so bland and clunky, and for a while at least was the go to example of a bad souls like.

maxprime, w Counter Strike 2 is surprisingly awful on Steam Deck right now

Are competitive FPSs intended for handhelds?

Dave,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

Maybe, maybe not. But I think people expect a game made by Valve to run on gaming hardware made by Valve, even if it’s only for casual playing.

dumdum666,

Well it runs - just not as fast as you want. I personally would never want to play those competitive shooters that need pixel perfect aim on a handheld console… but that’s just me.

schmidtster,

Ah yes, I totally expect Nintendo games to play on all their hardware like a 3ds…

BolexForSoup, (edited )
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schmidtster,

Sure, but they also make mobile games, do you expect hose to play on the switch too…?

BolexForSoup, (edited )
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schmidtster, (edited )

No, a 3ds to switch is a pretty apt comparison about a modern pc to a steam deck actually.

There is absolutely no reason why anyone would assume this should be optimized for a mobile device. You would be limiting its potential in PC, if they can’t provide the same experience across all devices, they aren’t going to. It’s a competitor shooter for one thing….

Where am I comparing apples to oranges…? I’m using different approaches to show that not everygame a company designs is going to be playable on all devices, it’s NEVER, been that way. So why would it suddenly change just for this one case…?

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schmidtster, (edited )

How is any of that relevant to a company being able to design games for what they want…?

But I will address this point. Yes it would limit what they could do to the PC version, look at what happened to coop for BG3 on the series S, sometimes devices just can’t do everything….

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schmidtster,

Where am I reaching?

I also never put words in your mouth. I’ve used different methods to describe how companies make games for other hardware all the time.

Why should this game be different? Are you going to answer any of my questions or are you just going to continue to deflect with these endless fallacies?

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captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

In terms of computer power, a Steam Deck is basically a mid-range laptop. Go buy a Dell Inspiron for about the same price and how does It run CS2?

Venutianxspring,

How is that the same? This is a PC game running on a device meant to run PC games. Apples to apples

schmidtster,

A severely limited device, like a 3ds compared to a switch even….

Venutianxspring,

I’m glad you’re making it apparent that you don’t know what you’re talking about. Sure you can’t compare it to a two thousand dollar PC with top of the line hardware, but it’s plenty capable, affordable and you can take it anywhere. They’re fucking awesome and have made PC gaming accessible to lots of people

schmidtster,

Yes it’s an awesome device and that’s not what was being discussed…

News flash, companies design games for different systems all the time, why should this one game be any different…?

Venutianxspring,

You literally just said it’s a severely limited device, which it definitely isn’t. You’ve just done a complete 180 with your argument.

schmidtster,

Compared to modern PCs… my argument hasn’t changed at all.

woelkchen,
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I think people expect a game made by Valve to run on gaming hardware made by Valve, even if it’s only for casual playing.

Yes. Why else did CSGO get controller and gyro support? While Valve did not promise anything in that regard, there was the expectation that CS2 would basically be fully optimized for Deck. Maybe it will still happen. The “final” release is nothing but an open beta.

OrekiWoof,

To add to this, the expectation is because they basically killed off CSGO for CS2 as an upgrade, so it should have the same and more functionalities.

Yes you can still turn on CSGO from settings but it’s worthless without servers.

tehmics,

Yeah we should be able to play half life Alyx on the steam deck too!!

tdawg,

Sure but they haven’t cared about the state of their games in ages. Iike I’m all for pushing to get them to fix it and all, but think it’s weird that people are surprised. Especially when the vast majority of their focus has been on steam for the last forever

kratoz29, (edited )
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Well, I have seen some very crazy shit with Metroid Prime Hunters for DS.

EDIT: Like tthis

tamiya_tt02,
@tamiya_tt02@lemmy.world avatar

I play Destiny 2 on my Asus ROG Ally almost daily, and have played lots of PVE and Gambit, but hate Crucible. It’s really powerful, so I think it’s possible to play competitive games on a handheld if you’re comfortable with using a controller. Of course, you can plug it into a monitor and use the XG Mobile to get a decent graphics card. So yeah, I think a handheld can hold up to a gaming PC if you temper your expectations. You’re not going to be playing at 4k, 120 fps, but instead 720p 50-60 fps. Good enough for casual play all the time.

lud,

I haven’t played destiny 2 in a long while but isn’t that game far from competitive?

tamiya_tt02,
@tamiya_tt02@lemmy.world avatar

It has competitive modes, but I don’t know how well it would do at tournament play. I’m not a big fan of PVP, but I’m pretty sure the Ally is powerful enough to play most of those games if you lower the graphics to get a nice FPS. I just cited Destiny because it’s what I’ve been playing lately.

arc, (edited ) w $600 Million And A Decade Later, Where Is Star Citizen

Serves people right for crowdfunding a game let alone one built around some libertarian wet dream where you have to buy your way to success, dropping thousands on content like spaceships.

Torvum,

You realize they’re developing two games simultaneously and the star citizen hate is only banked by people who don’t realize they’ve literally told everyone that SC isn’t getting content updates until Squadron 42 is done.

Secondly, buying ships for money is advertised as “do this if you want to support our game”. The ship cost being relative to a supporter tier if it was Patreon. Every single ship available can be bought and earned in game without spending more than $35 for the game’s basic access package.

Serves dumbasses right who expect news cycled to them and can’t do basic 5 minutes of critical thinking to eat slop like this article

Kolanaki,
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the star citizen hate is only banked by people who don’t realize they’ve literally told everyone that SC isn’t getting content updates until Squadron 42 is done.

And when will that be done?

Torvum, (edited )

I don’t know, it’s a good question but my point is how cringe of a hate train this game gets from people who haven’t a fucking clue what they’re talking about just to farm the feeling they’re with the in crowd. RSI has missed a lot of deadlines, but star citizen looks so unfinished because everything they’re working on isn’t being put in the PU nor heavily marketed. They’re not just sitting on a dragons hoard doing nothing

SC itself is self admitted a tech demo and like all early access games you’re told to only buy into them if you want to support the game. No one is holding a gun to backers’ heads and forcing them to buy jpg concepts

beneeney,
@beneeney@lemm.ee avatar

inb4 they start working on a third game and then tell you that Squadron 42 won’t be getting new content until that third game is done.

Torvum,

Both games started at the same time and are developed using the same engine and technology so this is honestly just a boring response

li10, w Counter Strike 2 is surprisingly awful on Steam Deck right now

You’d have to be a masochist to actually play this on steam deck or with any controller.

Unless they have some sort of “steam deck only” matchmaking, but even then it’s just not made for controller.

noobdoomguy8658,

It’s not a standard xbox controller. There’s a gyro with several ways to handle it, including flick, which does take a little time to get used to, but works really well as a mouse substitution for such an environment. Some people are just that good with a thumbstick as well and can easily enjoy casual gamemodes.

Steam Deck is a capable beast, even for a game like Counter-Strike.

DopamineDaydreams,
@DopamineDaydreams@kbin.social avatar

The same was said about the steam controller, but in the end it was still shit compared to a mouse. It's just not feasible in a game as competitive as csgo.

azvasKvklenko,

It’s not for everyone, but calling it shit just because it doesn’t work easily for your liking is
a bit much since it’s still usable to some. I beat plethora of shooters on gyro and it wasn’t that much harder than playing on mouse once I got used to it.

forgotaboutlaye,

Controllers in general are also extremely accessible, and expandable for those that might struggle using a tradtional mouse and keyboard.

Whirlybird, (edited )

Eh, people always say this yet data shows it’s not true. Many competitive games have had controller vs m+k and found no discernible advantage. Halo for one, gears of war is another I remember.

I play with an elite controller and I have had zero problem winning and going mvp against m+k players in any game I’ve played. I play PUBG where m+k use is rampant and I still maintain a 30-40% win rate in squads, often in 2 man squads.

noobdoomguy8658,

CS:GO is dead, though, and neither of the popular and beloved entries to the series was ever solely focused on the competitive scene - the community and the casual fun also matter in the world of Counter-Strike, and that’s one of its parts that can be enjoyed on a controller just fine. Of course I don’t expect to be able to perform just as well or better than the M+K players when playing on a controller, regardless of its gyro capabilities, especially in the competitive modes. Counter-Strike is just much more than just a competitive game.

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li10,

I’d say in this instance there’s a massive difference between CS and OW tbh.

I can believe that you could do well and enjoy OW on controller vs M+K, as the game gives you a lot of tools that reduce the need for good aim.

In CS, I just can’t see how you’d work around that though. To each their own, but I don’t see how CS could ever be enjoyable on controller vs K+M.

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    pec, (edited )

    At its core, CS is a competitive shooter. Having casual maps and modes is fun but the game should not cater to this play mode. If valve tries to make it casual friendly they will disappoint the competitive players and will not be able to compete with other casual shooters.

    Basically I don’t want then to cater too much to the casual scene

    AdmiralShat,

    Valve caters more to the casual scene than most companies do by allowing custom servers and an in game custom server browser.

    How much more casual can it get?

    Corkyskog,
    @Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Being on a console, on the couch.

    AdmiralShat,

    CSGO was made entirely for the purpose of being a console game, no body played it on console so they abandoned it

    You are perfectly capable of setting on the couch at any time. The computer does not stop this. You are actively making the decision to not sit on a couch, as an adult you’re allowed to do this.

    noobdoomguy8658,

    This isn’t what’s happening, though? What are you on about?

    Aurenkin,

    You can use a keyboard and mouse with the steam deck. Probably not super common but definitely doable.

    BolexForSoup,
    @BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

    It’s plenty common. I have a dock all set up as do many others!

    candle_lighter,
    @candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

    Gyro aim is very good and can easily compete with a mouse

    sockman,

    Not in a game like counter strike with flicking and very precise spray patterns.

    candle_lighter,
    @candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

    Both of those things are easily done with Gyro. You should try it out :D

    sockman,

    Of course, I don’t doubt that. But someone with say 500 hours in csgo playing with keyboard mouse will absolutely destroy someone with 500 hours playing with sticks/gyro. But honestly I can’t think of a single streamer or pro that doesn’t use keyboard mouse

    mojo,

    Gyro is a nice improvement on joystick gaming, but it sure as hell isn’t even remotely close to mouse aim

    OrekiWoof,

    My friend plays basically the same on gyro and on mouse, he’s 3-4 ranks below global elite. Why do you think gyro is so much worse?

    mojo, (edited )

    Yeah I don’t believe that at all

    Small adjustments from rotating a controller will never be nearly as precise as moving a mouse.

    Fast flicking wide turns is going to be far too slow even at the fastest joystick speed, which would screw up aiming in other ways as well

    Strafing would be very limited even if you somehow overcame all those issues and were magically a human robot. Your controller can only rotate so much to track the player over a distance.

    Joystick movement is simply never as precise as mouse, including with gyro that has a separate slow speed to try and be accurate as possible. Which doing that then means you can’t strafe or quick turn.

    Mouse can do it all with significantly less effort, and with a much higher skill ceiling. Which that is what matters if you’re in competitive play. If you’re not trying to be competitive, then fuck it, use whatever is fun.

    13617, w Counter Strike 2 is surprisingly awful on Steam Deck right now

    Can agree to this, I’ve tried to play but it plays at like 30fps and the controls are all messed up all the menu based stuff is gone it’s actually awful.

    BallShapedMan, w Teardown is coming to PS5 on November 15
    @BallShapedMan@lemmy.world avatar

    Good game, probably worth your time. I enjoyed it quite a bit on PC.

    thantik, (edited ) w US FTC Revives Microsoft-Activision Deal Challenge

    Lots of obvious astroturfing going on regarding this. I’ve seen this news everywhere from Slashdot to Reddit with people sucking Microsofts dick. It’s either that, or people are too young to remember the bullshit Microsoft pulled … since forever basically. People aren’t going to benefit from this merger. Microsoft is patient. Embrace, extend, extinguish is their strategy. 10 year agreements are nothing for them to wait out.

    And it’s the same with every merger – “This will bring more competition, blah blah blah”, then merger goes through and half the people are fired, half the rest are rolled into existing systems, and some empty shell of the previous company just wanders along with no real spirit any longer.

    NOT_RICK,
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m not happy with the state of consolidation in every market under the sun, but I’m sure as shit happy Bobby Kotick is finally going to fuck off and I’m happy I’ll be able to play activision games on gamepass. When gamepass inevitably enshitifies I’ll just get rid of my subscription.

    DLSchichtl,

    Plus, how much worse could Microsoft’s oversight possibly make Blizzard, at this point.

    NOT_RICK,
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    I agree, but I guess we’re shills?

    DLSchichtl,

    March to their step, otherwise you are unwanted. Yep, smells like tankie.

    GlitzyArmrest,
    @GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world avatar

    Huh? If you use “tankie” for everyone, no one is a tankie. That has nothing to do with this.

    DLSchichtl,

    Hmm. No sense of nuance. Our way or the highway. Not hating every ounce of capitalism at all times=shill.

    Idk, dude. Sounds pretty fucking tankish to me.

    GlitzyArmrest,
    @GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world avatar

    Idk, dude. Seems pretty fucking pointless and exhausting to me.

    DLSchichtl,

    Idk, dude. Seems pretty fucking pointless and exhausting to me.

    Like your reply?

    GlitzyArmrest,
    @GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world avatar

    So you agree that calling everyone you disagree with a tankie is pointless and exhausting?

    DLSchichtl,

    No, you are pointless

    GlitzyArmrest,
    @GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world avatar

    Glad I could make you feel small enough to turn to personal insults.

    Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

    Or people old enough to know that Activision has run everything it owns into the ground and basically any new ownership could not possibly be worse.

    Whirlybird,

    Like COD, the best selling game on every platform it’s on every year?

    solaryth,
    @solaryth@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    “embrace extend extinguish” lemmy’s favorite phrase lmao

    wabafee,

    Remember Embrace Extend Extinguish, R.E.E.E for short.

    lustyargonian, (edited )

    Yeah I can see that. Nadella brought new energy and almost made MSFT look cool, but years later we can see how MSFT is basically gobbling up everything in every domain.

    Update: Why am I being downvoted? Did you all forget that MSFT has acquired LinkedIn, GitHub, Mojang, Bethesda, ABK and 49% stake in OpenAI all under Satya? Each one of those are massive acquisitions.

    Whirlybird,

    Microsoft are far, far, far from being close to the leader in the market even with ABK on their books, so your FUD makes no sense. Pretty much no one in the entire industry is against the acquisition apart from their main competitor, Sony, who are the market leader and abuse that position every day of the year to pull content away from Microsoft.

    ABK will operate like they do currently, just like Bethesda do, only now they have Microsoft money and backing.

    The only people that this deal is bad for are people who only play on PlayStation consoles. Everyone else benefits.

    n3m37h,

    How bout you take your half baked brain back to investing in FTX.

    Corporations are not your friend stop acting like they are, or ya investing in microshit too?

    Whirlybird,

    How about you actually try and refute any of my points if you disagree? Let me guess……you only own a PlayStation?

    I didn’t say any corporation is my friend. Not sure where you’re getting that from?

    n3m37h, (edited )

    343 industries. MS has 18 month contractor limit and totally fucked up development on Halo Infinite

    No you’re just acting like a 69 billion merger is gonna have no effect. You’refucking naive

    Have not owned a console since 360 m8, PCMR

    Whirlybird,

    What does 343i, an internally created studio, have to do with ABK?

    n3m37h,

    You said nothing will change. They will be part of the microcrap veil and will follow their ways of doing things. Like not hire people and only contract for 18 months then get in new contractors to pick up where the recently fired left off… Like what happened at 343i.

    Whirlybird,

    No they won’t because Microsoft have gutted 343 and are completely changing how they are structured.

    They’ll be exactly like the other big acquisition, Bethesda, who Microsoft are basically completely hands off.

    CluckN, w Teardown is coming to PS5 on November 15

    Can’t wait for the switch release so I can heat my home this winter.

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