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mesamunefire, do games w Palworld Lawsuit

Looks like there has been an update: www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKFUr1867U0

I just dont like laws that support things like this…

Kelly,

Looks like there has been an update

TLDW?

anamethatisnt,

The update seems to be about www.pocketpair.jp/news/20241108

anamethatisnt,

polygon briefly mentions what the patents are about
polygon.com/…/palworld-developer-nintendo-pokemon…

ImplyingImplications, (edited )

The “update” is from a month ago. Pocketpair shared the patents they are accused of infringing and the payments Nintendo wants.

The patents are for “throwing an object in 3D space to capture a target” (throwing a pokeball) and “moving characters to a virtual field when an event is triggered” (entering a battle) the payment requested is 10 million yen or 64,000 USD. A paltry sum for a billion dollar company suing over a game that made tens of millions.

The patents were awarded to Nintendo after Palword had already released a trailer for their game showing gameplay. Pocketpair also released an earlier game called Craftopia which is Palworld but the pals are just straight up animals. It has the same systems Palworld does but didn’t sell very well.

A newer update is that Palworld has since released a patch that modified how their capture and summon system works, likely in an attempt to make Nintendo happy.

Palworld Update v0.3.11 Notes:

Player: Changed the behaviour of summoning player-owned Pals so that they are always summoned near the player

UI: The reticle will now only be displayed when aiming

Edit: there are actually 3 patents. The third one is for the player character being able to ride on another character.

Prunebutt,

“moving characters to a virtual field when an event is triggered” (entering a battle)

How is that a legit patent, when there are so many obvious instances of prior art?

KoboldCoterie,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

Even if there weren’t a million examples of prior art, the fact that patents on game mechanics are even allowed is just awful for the industry as a whole, and we as players should absolutely rail against this. Every game borrows from other games’ ideas and mechanics - I’d bet money that there hasn’t been a single fully “original” game in 20+ years. If companies are allowed to patent every little mechanic (even ones they didn’t come up with), the industry as a whole will just become impossible to operate in.

Prunebutt,

the fact that patents on game mechanics are even allowed is just awful for the industry as a whole

Yes, definetly.

Infynis,
@Infynis@midwest.social avatar

Every game borrows from other games’ ideas and mechanics

It’s not only games, this is just straight-up how art works. Culture develops over time. Of course capitalism had to get a middleman in there lol

ImplyingImplications,

It’s a Japanese patent. I’m not sure how it would hold up internationally, but Pocketpair is also a Japanese company and this lawsuit is entirely within the Japanese legal system. That probably gives Nintendo a bit of an advantage since they’re such a large and iconic Japanese corporation.

Prunebutt,

Copyright is already cooked, no matter where it’s located. But the way japan acts as if Pokemon invented JRPG battles is simply ridiculous.

otp,

the way japan acts as if Pokemon invented JRPG battles is simply ridiculous.

Am I missing some bit of context? Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy still exist (and came first).

Prunebutt,

That’s what I meant with “prior art”. Nintendo’s second patent basically explains how any old JRPG worked.

narc0tic_bird,

So…Red Dead Redemption infringes two of these three patents?

  • Throwing an object (lasso) to capture a target
  • Player character being able to ride on another character (horse)

Is Nintendo afraid because Rockstar can actually afford the lawsuit?

ComradeMiao,

Don’t let them know that!

CosmoNova,

It‘s likely a japanese patent so I doubt Nintendo can sue Rockstar.

Jaderick, do games w The Witcher IV — Cinematic Reveal Trailer | The Game Awards 2024

Ciri hyyyyypppppeeeeee

Blackmist,

This trailer is why I can’t really get into the Netflix series version of Ciri. She just doesn’t have this.

muhyb, do gaming w A New Law Just Forced Valve To Change Steam. (Steam is still the same but now they have to state that it is a license and not ownership)

It was always licenses on Steam, nothing changed in their ToS. Though there are some DRM-free games on Steam, even free from Steam-DRM.

brsrklf,

It was technically always licenses for every video game ever commercialised. It’s just that a publisher has no practical way to control what happens to someone’s floppy/optical disc/cartridge/whatever physical media.

Kichae,

Same for almost every book you’ve ever read, every CD you’ve ever listened to, and every movie you’ve ever watched. You owned the leaves of paper the book was printed on, or the plastic disc the music or movie was stamped into, but never the words, the songs, or the movie itself.

We’ve only ever had licenses to consume.

muhyb,

Like Kichae mentioned, every media we buy is technically a license. License to use. However we own the physical part of it and we can use (read, watch, play etc.) it whenever we please. Should be like this with games as well. At least GOG does this. As long as an installer is in our hard drives, it’s a physical media.

Shadywack, do games w Starfield: Shattered Space - Official Launch Trailer
@Shadywack@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t even get past the mid point of the story, game’s too boring and the loading screens are too ass.

thisbenzingring,
@thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The ending is stupid. It’s fuckin dumb.

IronKrill, do games w Can you trust Valve? Honest criticism of Steam.
@IronKrill@lemmy.ca avatar

Better alternatives? That is highly subjective. Itch’s store-front experience sucks balls and they lack 98% of the features Steam has. I appreciate their existence and have bought games from them, but language like that will only serve to alienate people that know how much Itch lacks compared to Steam.

Maven,

Dear god I just wish itch had the ability to sort games in literally any way at all… Please let me sort all the games I got from bundles holy shit it would make me use the store way more…

Honestly even sorting by platform would be enough just fucking anything please

Veraxus, do games w PVKK Planetenverteidigungskanonenkommandant - Official Announce Trailer | Games Baked in Germany Showcase

Wow, and it’s made with Godot!?

bungle_in_the_jungle, do games w Today, it has been 6 years since The Elder Scrolls 6 teaser

Shut up. 6 years!? 👴

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

The beforetimes

afk_strats, do games w Today, it has been 6 years since The Elder Scrolls 6 teaser

It was 5 years and 8 months between the release of Oblivion and Skyrim. Oblivion was released on March 20, 2006, and Skyrim was released on November 11, 2011.

Katana314,

Yes, but we didn’t have AAAAA gaming standards back then. Do you think they could have made a masterpiece like Skull & Bones in those days?

AlexWIWA,

Skyrim is almost three times as old now. I’m going to be honest, I’d rather just have another Skyrim expansion than a modern Bethesda game.

explodicle,
@explodicle@sh.itjust.works avatar

Check out Beyond Skyrim

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

…which is 9 years old.

explodicle,
@explodicle@sh.itjust.works avatar

Still gonna be done before ES6

AlexWIWA,

This looks awesome

Rade0nfighter, do games w Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Saints and Sinners Trailer
@Rade0nfighter@lemmy.world avatar

The original had to be one of the most underrated (or just undermmarketed?) games of all time.

Absolutely fantastic RPG.

Bernie_Sandals,
@Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world avatar

The first game was funded through Kickstarter and a random Czech millionaire who really liked history. I don’t exactly blame them for not having the marketing budget needed to really make to first game as successful as it could’ve.

Hopefully, the amazing success of the first game can propell the second into being the Skyrim level RPG success they deserve.

cmhe,

AFAIK, modding is the main reason for Skyrims long term success. Sure, it did its part in inspiring people initially, but what keeps at least me coming back is my interest in trying new mods.

But it also didn’t start there with Elder Scrolls series. Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas use a very moddable predecessor of the Skyrim engine, and thus build the community up for Skyrim and later games.

Modability of KC:D was rather limited, so there isn’t a community around as big as the Skyrim one. That means with Skyrim, you get what you can mod into it, while with Kingdom Come, you mostly just get what you buy.

So I don’t expect it to be the next Skyrim, but never the less I am interested in it.

newthrowaway20, do games w Tales of the Shire: A The Lord of the Rings Game - Official Announcement Trailer

This poor IP getting dragged through the mud.

sushibowl,

It is the way of all things good in this world, that eventually they end up in the hands of people who care only to extract money from it.

Gabu, do gaming w If AAA is No Longer Profitable... Make Smaller Games | A16Z Games (10:11)

That would be the reasonable and rational conclusion, but capitalism is neither reasonable nor rational.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

You can only throw away hundreds of millions of dollars on Avengers and Suicide Squad so many times before they decide to come up with something people are willing to pay for.

TastehWaffleZ, do games w [PyottDesign] Ultimate FPS Controller Design and Build

The amount of skills that came together to create this controller is incredible. It was so satisfying watching everything come together, I wish I could try it out.

lemmy_at_em,

It seems like every step in the process was it’s own discipline.

ColeSloth,

Be cool if he’d offer to sell them. I know of some people who’d drop $200 for it.

TastehWaffleZ,

For sure! It seems like a decent amount of work but all the modeling is done already. The problem is that he’d have to buy an Xbox controller and the mouse for the internals, the breakaway box, and the wires which is probably close to $200 right there

ColeSloth,

That’s true. Kind of fubars things right there.

MisterMoo, do gaming w Will Smith's Chinese Zombie Game [videogamedunkey]

After the slap I will never participate in anything related to Will Smith.

Anissem,
@Anissem@lemmy.ml avatar

How can he slap?

Nom,
SkabySkalywag,

I think you double tap the ‘x’ button.

mr_robot2938,

Don’t worry, will smith didn’t participate in this game either.

Fisk400,

Was Will Smith cool before that? The last movie I saw with him is that one movie where he co-stared with himself and the one before that was after earth.

I guess the one with the tennis was ok? His involvement was hardly a stamp of quality before the slap.

EnderMB,

He had put out a long line of duds, but was still considered an accomplished actor. King Richard is probably an outlier as a critically acclaimed role for him, but even after a decade of mostly crap he’s still been getting the work.

Given the response from Chris Rock to the slap, that might all be over though. He’s still busy as a producer on Bel Air, which has been…okay? That might be his next move in his career.

A_Random_Idiot, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI Trailer 1

It looks like a modded GTAV.

Granted, its still well over a year out.

But Meh.

Especially since Rockstar will probably hyper focus on online multi and milking the whales, and give a shitty single player experience again.

Firipu,
@Firipu@startrek.website avatar

Gta5 had a shitty single player experience? Did we play the same game? Wtf?or rdr2, another Rockstar game?

Shit on Rockstar all you want, but their game have entertaining stories…

HerbalGamer,
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

They did leave a lot of stuff for online only, never even updating things in singleplayer.

Firipu,
@Firipu@startrek.website avatar

I’d argue I got my 60usd worth of content out of the single player. I can understand they focused on MP for further content.

HerbalGamer,
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

Would’ve made sense if they had it for sale as SP DLC

A_Random_Idiot,

Considering the going rate for games anymore seems to be 10 hours of game play for 60 dollars, I can believe you on that comment at least.

Firipu,
@Firipu@startrek.website avatar

You finished the gta 5 campaign in 10h? You just speedran it once?

If not, nice hyperbole…

(rdr2 campaign was also more than 10h, to name a recentish Rockstar game) . Many other big AAA titles aside from cod also have campaigns that last longer than 10h.

Hawk,

“Sequel to game looks like improved version of game”.

Not sure what point you’re trying to make here?

test113,

I think the point is - it’s disappointing to see GTA 5 2.0. I expected something more, something different, less generic, not just another coastal city or a GTA 5 clone. It seems like they just merged the engine update with GTA 5. Watching the trailer bored me, like being forced to watch a mediocre action comedy movie. I don’t know how the majority of the game will feel, but this trailer is just so generic. If this were a movie, no one would care. Maybe that’s the point, but still, my hype is somewhat gone. I at least expected a different scenario than this GTA 5 DLC story or at least set it somewhere other than a coastal city.

SaakoPaahtaa,

Waiting for GTA Wyoming with trailer park beef and fentanyl processing

EarMaster,
@EarMaster@lemmy.world avatar

I think they are totally planning on adding the new map to GTA Online. Just like in Vice City you visited the original GTA 3 map.

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

there are gta v mods that add rtgi and hair simulation?

freebdsm, do games w YouTuber Jirard (a.k.a. The Completionist) has been accused of keeping and hoarding charity donations

I watched the video. It’s definitely not looking good for Jirard but I’ll reserve judgement until he responds. These allegations are really bad.

stopthatgirl7,
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I haven’t watched this video, but watched the one by No Ordinary Gamer, and he included responses he got from Jirard. It didn’t look great.

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