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Binthinkin, do gaming w If AAA is No Longer Profitable... Make Smaller Games | A16Z Games (10:11)

Starfield is an empty AAA game. And they LIED about updates.

Posted profits tho.

boaratio,

I personally like Starfield.

Gabu,

From what I see, it’s a bit like Skyrim in space and, to be fair, Skyrim is a really good game, but it’s been 12 years. Bethesda has to relearn how to make other games.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

More like Fallout 4 in space, minus any interesting places to explore, worse characters, story and base building.

bhamlin,

Yeah, it seems like these days many AAA games are just an empty harness for housing a microtransaction powered money engine.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

I’m just amazed that, 6 months later, they haven’t fixed any of the skill related bugs, but “fixed” the visual effects of rejuvenation ~4 times (it’s listed that many times in the changelogs, anyway). That’s bad even for Bethesda standards

MolochAlter, do games w The New York Times Simulator - A free casual game about manufacturing consent

This feels very “just found out about politics and damn” tbh.

The game isn’t really teaching anything of note beyond “private entities have their own interests,” which anyone who would even find this compelling already knows.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Most people seem to “never have found out about politics” yet seeing how they consume all newspaper content without critical thinking.

MolochAlter,

Everyone consumes whatever they agree with with less critical thinking, it’s an absolutely normal bias to have and nobody is immune.

That’s why when you hear someone say “I do my own research” you don’t think “this person must be highly educated” but rather “this person listens to ‘alternative’ media.”

Just because you consume a different kind of propaganda, doesn’t make you wiser, it makes you have a different set of biases.

wizardbeard,

It’s also important to remember that being aware of the psychological effects of something does not make you immune to those effects, or even consistently lessen them in a measurable way.

einlander,

Placebo works even when the subject knows it’s a placebo.

Aatube,

There's a difference between placebo and plain ignorance

einlander,

…harvard.edu/…/the-power-of-the-placebo-effect

A study led by Kaptchuk and published in Science Translational Medicine explored this by testing how people reacted to migraine pain medication. One group took a migraine drug labeled with the drug’s name, another took a placebo labeled “placebo,” and a third group took nothing. The researchers discovered that the placebo was 50% as effective as the real drug to reduce pain after a migraine attack.

The researchers speculated that a driving force beyond this reaction was the simple act of taking a pill. “People associate the ritual of taking medicine as a positive healing effect,” says Kaptchuk. “Even if they know it’s not medicine, the action itself can stimulate the brain into thinking the body is being healed.”

Aatube,

But pain is a different context to sociology

MolochAlter,

Yeah, pain is more tangible and actually experienced, whereas what society actually looks like is 99% vibes and personal biases.

So this applies even more to sociology than to painkillers.

Aatube,

Take how many people think they can't be racist. Pain is also a psychological effect.

MolochAlter,

What the fuck are you talking about? These two things aren’t even remotely alike.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

This feels very “just found out about politics and damn” tbh.

Ok.

I think this would be of value for sharing with people that aren’t aware (my kid when she was younger).

Or is there a better resource to do this?

Aatube,

The Westport Independent? This feels like it'll expire

MolochAlter,

if you want something on media , censorship, spin, ect? I’d say Not for Broadcast is pretty good.

Schmoo,

Coming at this from an IT perspective, a lot of things that people “already know” seem to evaporate when it’s time to actually apply that knowledge. Keeping that in mind, I think a game like this helps to cement the idea in people’s heads in a more intuitive way. It bridges the gap between system 1 and system 2 thinking.

smnwcj,

Such a hater comment to make. Woof.

First, shitting on folks who are new to left politics and (god forbid) harbor excitement for these new insights. At least we have folks leaving comments like this to grind that eagerness out of them.

Then, it failed a narrow expectation you fully put on it. Maybe it was using an a medium to express an idea in a novel way. What a concept. Let's call it Art. It can be something other than homework.

You're allowed to not be into it and express why, and if you have ideas for improving it, even better. But essentially saying "I'm above the target audience and it's pointless"...cool, share something you made

MolochAlter,

First, shitting on folks who are new to left politics and (god forbid) harbor excitement for these new insights. At least we have folks leaving comments like this to grind that eagerness out of them.

Christ on a pike, “enthusiastic about politics” is probably the worst thing you could ever be, it only leads to pie in the sky idiocy and utopianism.

Yes, please let’s grind that down as fast as possible, politics is a pragmatic exercise like doing groceries and taking a shit, you shouldn’t be excited about it. The only people excited by politics are fanatics and zealots and we could do with a lot fewer of those on all sides right now.

Then, it failed a narrow expectation you fully put on it. Maybe it was using an a medium to express an idea in a novel way. What a concept. Let’s call it Art. It can be something other than homework.

Yeah, God forbid I use my experience of the medium to judge a piece of art.

All this is, is a more biased, more cut down version of games like Papers, please, Not for Bradcast, or The Westport Independent, that doesn’t even use its gameplay loop to really give any direct experience of the issue it’s trying to showcase.

Having played it until I got bored of it, the only feeling reinforced through the gameplay is “boy i wish I could read faster”.

It doesn’t even leverage the idea that you need to send newspapers to print, allowing you to plan your front page to build a more coherent narrative, you literally just need to constantly swap articles in and out of the paper as if people’s copies would change in real time. It doesn’t account for the appearance of bias or conflicting interests between the parties you want to keep happy. It lacks nuance and a proper understanding of how to evoke what feeling through gameplay.

So, yeah, I think it’s banal and aggressively poorly thought out, not even mediocre but genuinely bad. Are you going to argue otherwise or are you just gonna say I’m being too harsh or unfair?

And before you highlight that this is free, so is The Westport Independent, and it’s been out for almost 10 years (god I feel old).

But essentially saying “I’m above the target audience and it’s pointless”…cool, share something you made

LOL I’m not about to dox myself to prove a stranger wrong, if you want to feel like you have successfully defended your point because you want to think I couldn’t have pulled this crap off, feel free to do so.

My criticism stands on its own regardless of my own output or even of myself as a source for it.

Facni, do games w The New York Times Simulator - A free casual game about manufacturing consent

It is suspiciously similar to "The Republia Times" a flash game (Already ported to HTML5) by Lucas Pope the creator of "Papers Please" and "The Return of the Obra Dinn".
See: www.dukope.com

Linkerbaan,
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The games creator attributes it for inspiration.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9c6870de-89ba-4f33-b20e-c5dcdd3522f0.png

SgtAStrawberry,

There are a lot of games like this, Headliner comes to mind for me.

stardust, do gaming w The largest campaign ever to stop publishers destroying games | Accursed Farms

I have the Crew so took the first step necessary to begin the process.

ProdigalFrog,

Cheers man! :D

SimplyTadpole, do gaming w The largest campaign ever to stop publishers destroying games | Accursed Farms
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I’m a pretty big fan of an online-only game that was killed while I was still in diapers, and I can only play a limited debug build of it that was leaked by a disgruntled developer who was mad the game was shut down. I often wish I had been able to experience it the way it was originally intended to.

I don’t have The Crew, but what I’m seeing lines up very closely to my situation, so I relate to it. And this is a cause I most definitely support, so I really hope this works out. I hate when games end up as permanently lost media…

CaptainSpaceman, do games w [PyottDesign] Ultimate FPS Controller Design and Build

False, ultimate FPS controller is board+mouse

slumberlust,

Is that why every Apex player switched from mouse to controller?

CaptainSpaceman,

Controller adds aim assist in most games?

ncesc.com/…/why-do-controller-players-get-aim-ass…

Why do controller players get aim assist?

Aim assist is a feature designed to compensate for the inherent challenges of aiming with a controller compared to a mouse and keyboard.

Chee_Koala,

Ever since cross play became ubiquitous, the aim assist has been increasing and increasing. I was playing BF 1 on my Steam Deck and thought I accidentally did speed and coke, I was playing so well! Then I remembered I play mouse + keyboard normally.

GoodEye8,

Yeah, the aim assist is getting stupid. I returned to The Finals when the new season released and the game had defaulted to cross play on. For the first few days I thought I had completely forgotten how to shoot, I couldn’t win a fight even if my life depended on it. It felt like everyone was laser-beaming and my guns had recoil. Eventually I noticed a spectator cam where aim assist was obvious and I understood I have cross play on. Turned it off and I instantly went from bottom of the scoreboard to being at least decent.

From now on cross play always stays off. I don’t have the time to get my aim to a level where I could compete with aim assist.

dumpsterlid,

I mean I get it, auto-aim can be frustrating, especially if you can’t find a game you like that doesn’t have it, but on the other hand a bit of good auto-aim de-emphasizes just being extremely good at aiming which makes every other aspect of the game more important and satisfying to master, which I think you can make a good argument for being a good thing when it is done right.

Rai,

Apex’s aim assist is laser aimbot. It’s insane.

Hadriscus,

Yes, as far as I know

lemmy_at_em,

The video even concludes with that point. He was still 10-20% more accurate with a keyboard and mouse than either controller. But I thought his point about the controller being more intuitive and versatile for movement than a keyboard was interesting.

GBU_28,

I wonder how much default exposure plays in.

As in, the default computer experience is m kb. So you have tons of passive practice, just doing normal computer stuff.

So the fairest comparison would require impossible things, like raising someone to use a controller like this an equal amount to m+kb, over the same developmental years, etc

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

But I thought his point about the controller being more intuitive and versatile for movement than a keyboard was interesting.

Others had the same thought long ago which is why for example Razer has “gaming keypads” with analog input for movement:

https://techaeris.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/razer-tartarus-v2.jpg

www.razer.com/shop/keyboards/gaming-keypads

Rai,

The thumb pad/joystick is not analog, it’s a standard directional pad when you pop the joystick off. I use it for four extra buttons (usually menu buttons)

That said, been using hand keyboards forEVER (Tartarus 2, Orbweaver chroma, Orbweaver, Nostromo, and some belkin one that’s basically the Nostromo) and they’re AMAZING.

Hadriscus,

I could have been fooled ! Know of any one of those that sports an analog stick ?

Rai,

I don’t! I wish I did, but to be honest it wouldn’t feel good to play with a controller like tusk and your thumb. I’ve played SNES games with my thumb and it felt… wrong.

Still, these hand keyboards are SO GOOD. I wish lore companies made them. The ergonomics of the Tartarus 2 are perfect, and it’s so nice to have one big profile and not have to fuck with keybinds in-game, ever.

Hadriscus,

Yea I was hoping I could have the best of both worlds but if the stick isn’t analog it’s all moot. Thanks for your feedback. I’ll probably keep using my macropad for the time being

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

The Razer website says something about analog inputs using light sensors.🤷

Rai,

Oh! That refers to the keys. They’re like… pressure sensitive on the new one, which is neat! I have the Tartarus v2, which has standard keys. The thumb stick is a standard D-Pad on em both, though.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

A stick being only a standard d-pad is kinda dumb…

Rai,

FULLY agree. You can pop it off and use the DPad as a… DPad, though, which is what I’ve always done.

…except for the Orbweaver Chroma, which has a non-removable 8-direction joystick, which is VERY dumb.

TwilightVulpine, do gaming w The largest campaign ever to stop publishers destroying games | Accursed Farms

Love the effort this guy is putting into it. I don't have The Crew to participate but I hope this pays off.

Kerb, do gaming w If AAA is No Longer Profitable... Make Smaller Games | A16Z Games (10:11)
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this stuff really pisses me off,
i remember recently watching a video about tekken8.

the devs aparently made an announcement that boils down to “we need to monetize the shit out of this game now to make our monney back”
and the streamer just went “yeah thats reasonable”

they have the sales figures for tekken 7, and tekken 7 was an online game, so they know their active userbase.
(and they also now charge 70 bucks)

so they have at least a vague idea of how much monney they’ll make.

how can you screw up your budget that bad unless you senslessly dump money at your release.

yeah cutting edge graphics are neat,
but thats incredibly expensive.
and imo not that nececary for a great experience.

maybe a game that needs to nickle and dime its playerbase shouldnt be made in the first place?

Cowbee, do gaming w If AAA is No Longer Profitable... Make Smaller Games | A16Z Games (10:11)
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Appealing to the widest audience possible for the largest gross profits, rather than appealing to specific audiences with a smaller budget, is part of the issue with modern gaming.

Shurimal, do games w The New York Times Simulator - A free casual game about manufacturing consent

Took me about 2 minutes to piss off the pigs🤪

Edit: 60 seconds to make zionists lose their mind🤘

KingThrillgore, do gaming w If AAA is No Longer Profitable... Make Smaller Games | A16Z Games (10:11)
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

The last people I need telling me the obvious is A16Z

Aatube, do games w The New York Times Simulator - A free casual game about manufacturing consent

Why did they do the NYT specifically-
clicks video
OH MY GOD

LiveLM, do gaming w If AAA is No Longer Profitable... Make Smaller Games | A16Z Games (10:11)

Oh wow, big words coming from fucking Andreessen Horowitz Games

espiritu_p, do gaming w The largest campaign ever to stop publishers destroying games | Accursed Farms

That's a great initiative.
I haven't bought games from big publishers as EA or Ubi for years because of this issue.

Gabu, do gaming w If AAA is No Longer Profitable... Make Smaller Games | A16Z Games (10:11)

That would be the reasonable and rational conclusion, but capitalism is neither reasonable nor rational.

ampersandrew,
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You can only throw away hundreds of millions of dollars on Avengers and Suicide Squad so many times before they decide to come up with something people are willing to pay for.

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